What’s so complicated? Pilgrims landed, Indians helped them grow food, and they all had a big feast to celebrate!

Let’s eat and watch some football!

Anonymous wrote:When virtue signallers get going like this it makes me wonder do they think their children are racist and need to be deprogrammed? Or do they feel like they themselves have always held racist beliefs and perceptions and need to change themselves?

Can someone recommend a good children’s Christmas book that doesn’t emphasize Christianity and a white baby Jesus and teaches that love and giving are not tied to a religion or a holiday?

Actually there is a ton of research that humans are born inherently racist. Babies as young as 6 months prefer to look at faces that are the same race as their primary caregiver, for example. There is just no scientific basis to the idea that “colorblindness” works to teach children to treat all races equally, because there is an evolutionary benefit to tribalism.

So we can either pretend race doesn’t exist and let our kids pick up the biases that exist everywhere in our culture and media, or we can openly and directly talk about race.

Anonymous wrote:no kid wants to learn about his especially in a book they want turkey and stuffing and dessert, lots of dessert.

Maybe your kid. Mine love everything about books, especially as a way to explore the world around them or the past.

We are American Indian. We read all sorts of Thanksgiving books. Indians aren't a monolith. My kids are still young, but we have a lot of simpler conversations about Indians (teepees vs long houses, views on land and cultural differences). We talk a lot about how Americans took advantage of the Indians.

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Anonymous wrote:When virtue signallers get going like this it makes me wonder do they think their children are racist and need to be deprogrammed? Or do they feel like they themselves have always held racist beliefs and perceptions and need to change themselves?

Can someone recommend a good children’s Christmas book that doesn’t emphasize Christianity and a white baby Jesus and teaches that love and giving are not tied to a religion or a holiday?

I know this is sarcasm, but there are tons of secular Christmas books.

There are also several books with a brown-skinned Holy Family.

I really do not understand the idea of secular Christmas. Why read a "Christmas" book at all?

I remember being a store several years ago and seeing a nativity set that said on the box "nativity scene with child." I thought how odd it was that they avoided mentioning Jesus on the box since a nativity is by definition is religious and anyone buying said nativity would be religious to some extent.

Exactly.

If you're not religious or are uncomfortable with the racial aspects of Thanksgiving, just don't make it an issue. There's no need to make everything so complicated. Just enjoy Thanksgiving as a time for gratitude and spending time with your family. No need to extrapolate learning opportunities and virtue signaling from every single holiday. Your children will not remember whether or not there were racial undertones in their storybooks; you're just projecting your own race issues onto what should be an otherwise innocent activity for them.

no kid wants to learn about his especially in a book they want turkey and stuffing and dessert, lots of dessert.

We like this book:

We Are Grateful: Otsaliheliga
Book by Traci Sorell

Check our NMAI's website. They have Thanksgiving resources:

https://americanindian.si.edu/online-resources/thanksgiving

This video is cute and informative for all ages: https://americanindian.si.edu/americans/#stories/the-invention-of-thanksgiving

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Anonymous wrote:When virtue signallers get going like this it makes me wonder do they think their children are racist and need to be deprogrammed? Or do they feel like they themselves have always held racist beliefs and perceptions and need to change themselves?

Can someone recommend a good children’s Christmas book that doesn’t emphasize Christianity and a white baby Jesus and teaches that love and giving are not tied to a religion or a holiday?

I know this is sarcasm, but there are tons of secular Christmas books.

There are also several books with a brown-skinned Holy Family.

I really do not understand the idea of secular Christmas. Why read a "Christmas" book at all?

I remember being a store several years ago and seeing a nativity set that said on the box "nativity scene with child." I thought how odd it was that they avoided mentioning Jesus on the box since a nativity is by definition is religious and anyone buying said nativity would be religious to some extent.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a suggestion: stop brainwashing your kids. This ridiculous intersectional anti-racist drivel might make you feel virtuous but all it does is make people think more about race--which is the last thing we need.

There are definitely people who are obsessed with race. Just let people be people!

Says the white person.

+ 1000

The only thing new here is that white people are being asked to think about race.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a suggestion: stop brainwashing your kids. This ridiculous intersectional anti-racist drivel might make you feel virtuous but all it does is make people think more about race--which is the last thing we need.

There are definitely people who are obsessed with race. Just let people be people!

Says the white person.

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Anonymous wrote:https://centerracialjustice.org/resources/lorem-ipsum-dolor-sit-amet/

Good grief. Just avoid mentioning it all together at that rate.

I really don't want to use Thanksgiving to teach about genocide. I would rather just view it as a time to give thanks in that case.

Anonymous wrote:When virtue signallers get going like this it makes me wonder do they think their children are racist and need to be deprogrammed? Or do they feel like they themselves have always held racist beliefs and perceptions and need to change themselves?

Can someone recommend a good children’s Christmas book that doesn’t emphasize Christianity and a white baby Jesus and teaches that love and giving are not tied to a religion or a holiday?

I know this is sarcasm, but there are tons of secular Christmas books.

There are also several books with a brown-skinned Holy Family.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a suggestion: stop brainwashing your kids. This ridiculous intersectional anti-racist drivel might make you feel virtuous but all it does is make people think more about race--which is the last thing we need.

NP. Can you explain?

DP. This is the type of the person who had no problem with legacy or donations helping kids get into college or jobs for hundreds of years but screamed foul at the idea of affirmative action helping people who didn't look like them. The system is all good when white people were benefitting but when the benefits turned to others it's, "oh, no, we must ignore race."

When virtue signallers get going like this it makes me wonder do they think their children are racist and need to be deprogrammed? Or do they feel like they themselves have always held racist beliefs and perceptions and need to change themselves?

Can someone recommend a good children’s Christmas book that doesn’t emphasize Christianity and a white baby Jesus and teaches that love and giving are not tied to a religion or a holiday?

Anonymous wrote:Here's a suggestion: stop brainwashing your kids. This ridiculous intersectional anti-racist drivel might make you feel virtuous but all it does is make people think more about race--which is the last thing we need.

There are definitely people who are obsessed with race. Just let people be people!