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Anonymous wrote:You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

Shut up. Depriving your child of necessary sleep is detrimental to them. A child who is sleep trained will cry far less in that week or days it takes to sleep train than a non-sleep trained baby who wakes and is cranky all day from not getting enough sleep. Sleep is a learned skill. There is nothing wrong with sleep training.

If we took any grown adult and locked them in a cage while they were covered in vomit and screaming for help with no result until they passed out from exhaustion and stress that adult would be in therapy for PTSD. That is a fact. Why would a little baby be more resilient than a grown adult?

Parents who prioritize their own sleep...and the justify this sh*t with "babies who sleep train ACTUALLY cry less" are garbage humans. I have no tolerance for extinction "sleep training" and truly wish it were a reportable offense.

Same. I completely agree with you.

+1

+1000 horrible. Also completely disagree with the pps who said kids who aren’t sleep trained are miserable and tired. My kids were not trained and they got 12 hours a night (one still does, the other is 11) because I gently taught them that night was for sleeping. If they cried, I taught them that I would always be there. I don’t care if you Ferber or whatever but extinction is just cruel. They are babies. They need their parents.

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Anonymous wrote:She is 12 weeks, we will do it sometime in the 14 to 16 week window. I considered Ferber bc there are times when she was fussy at night and just coming in and talking with her a smidge calmed her down, but there are other times when it totally fails and she gets more upset. With our older, it was more obvious that coming in would make him more mad. Yeah, we love sleep.

Maybe she's hungry? 12 weeks is really, really young.

I think when they’re young you do it for bedtime but keep the night feeds.

But the OP is asking what to do in the middle of the night for her 12 week old baby.

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Anonymous wrote:You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

Shut up. Depriving your child of necessary sleep is detrimental to them. A child who is sleep trained will cry far less in that week or days it takes to sleep train than a non-sleep trained baby who wakes and is cranky all day from not getting enough sleep. Sleep is a learned skill. There is nothing wrong with sleep training.

If we took any grown adult and locked them in a cage while they were covered in vomit and screaming for help with no result until they passed out from exhaustion and stress that adult would be in therapy for PTSD. That is a fact. Why would a little baby be more resilient than a grown adult?

Parents who prioritize their own sleep...and the justify this sh*t with "babies who sleep train ACTUALLY cry less" are garbage humans. I have no tolerance for extinction "sleep training" and truly wish it were a reportable offense.

Same. I completely agree with you.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

Shut up. Depriving your child of necessary sleep is detrimental to them. A child who is sleep trained will cry far less in that week or days it takes to sleep train than a non-sleep trained baby who wakes and is cranky all day from not getting enough sleep. Sleep is a learned skill. There is nothing wrong with sleep training.

If we took any grown adult and locked them in a cage while they were covered in vomit and screaming for help with no result until they passed out from exhaustion and stress that adult would be in therapy for PTSD. That is a fact. Why would a little baby be more resilient than a grown adult?

Parents who prioritize their own sleep...and the justify this sh*t with "babies who sleep train ACTUALLY cry less" are garbage humans. I have no tolerance for extinction "sleep training" and truly wish it were a reportable offense.

You have not met all babies so if CIO doesn’t work for you, move on, sanctimony. My kids did not know how to put themselves to sleep and woke up every 45 min-2houes. Broken sleep isn’t healthy for anyone. We did what worked for us and my kids were much, much happier being able to sleep 11 hours straight. And yes OBVIOUSLY over the long run there is less crying. A baby that wakes up constantly may be cranky and tired and need help going back to sleep which involves crying. Contrast that with a baby sleep trained in 3 nights/no crying after that. I have no regrets. But I do think it’s bizarre anyone would do this without so much as a baby monitor in the room.

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Anonymous wrote:She is 12 weeks, we will do it sometime in the 14 to 16 week window. I considered Ferber bc there are times when she was fussy at night and just coming in and talking with her a smidge calmed her down, but there are other times when it totally fails and she gets more upset. With our older, it was more obvious that coming in would make him more mad. Yeah, we love sleep.

Maybe she's hungry? 12 weeks is really, really young.

I think when they’re young you do it for bedtime but keep the night feeds.

Anonymous wrote:She is 12 weeks, we will do it sometime in the 14 to 16 week window. I considered Ferber bc there are times when she was fussy at night and just coming in and talking with her a smidge calmed her down, but there are other times when it totally fails and she gets more upset. With our older, it was more obvious that coming in would make him more mad. Yeah, we love sleep.

Maybe she's hungry? 12 weeks is really, really young.

Anonymous wrote:She is 12 weeks, we will do it sometime in the 14 to 16 week window. I considered Ferber bc there are times when she was fussy at night and just coming in and talking with her a smidge calmed her down, but there are other times when it totally fails and she gets more upset. With our older, it was more obvious that coming in would make him more mad. Yeah, we love sleep.

No ONE advocates for CIO at 3-4 months. It is normal for babies to need feeds overnight. I hope you arent one of those shut the door at 7pm and dont open until 7 am parents because that is just sickening. 4-6 months is the consensus by most medical professionals. JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

Shut up. Depriving your child of necessary sleep is detrimental to them. A child who is sleep trained will cry far less in that week or days it takes to sleep train than a non-sleep trained baby who wakes and is cranky all day from not getting enough sleep. Sleep is a learned skill. There is nothing wrong with sleep training.

If we took any grown adult and locked them in a cage while they were covered in vomit and screaming for help with no result until they passed out from exhaustion and stress that adult would be in therapy for PTSD. That is a fact. Why would a little baby be more resilient than a grown adult?

Parents who prioritize their own sleep...and the justify this sh*t with "babies who sleep train ACTUALLY cry less" are garbage humans. I have no tolerance for extinction "sleep training" and truly wish it were a reportable offense.

Same. I completely agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

Shut up. Depriving your child of necessary sleep is detrimental to them. A child who is sleep trained will cry far less in that week or days it takes to sleep train than a non-sleep trained baby who wakes and is cranky all day from not getting enough sleep. Sleep is a learned skill. There is nothing wrong with sleep training.

If we took any grown adult and locked them in a cage while they were covered in vomit and screaming for help with no result until they passed out from exhaustion and stress that adult would be in therapy for PTSD. That is a fact. Why would a little baby be more resilient than a grown adult?

Parents who prioritize their own sleep...and the justify this sh*t with "babies who sleep train ACTUALLY cry less" are garbage humans. I have no tolerance for extinction "sleep training" and truly wish it were a reportable offense.

1015 you are creepy...

And nobody suggested anything at all related to depriving a child of sleep. That is nothing but a strawman.

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Anonymous wrote:You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

Shut up. Depriving your child of necessary sleep is detrimental to them. A child who is sleep trained will cry far less in that week or days it takes to sleep train than a non-sleep trained baby who wakes and is cranky all day from not getting enough sleep. Sleep is a learned skill. There is nothing wrong with sleep training.

If we took any grown adult and locked them in a cage while they were covered in vomit and screaming for help with no result until they passed out from exhaustion and stress that adult would be in therapy for PTSD. That is a fact. Why would a little baby be more resilient than a grown adult?

Anonymous wrote:You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

Shut up. Depriving your child of necessary sleep is detrimental to them. A child who is sleep trained will cry far less in that week or days it takes to sleep train than a non-sleep trained baby who wakes and is cranky all day from not getting enough sleep. Sleep is a learned skill. There is nothing wrong with sleep training.

You know you are talking about your helpless infant right??.. a cold place in hell for anyone that puts a tiny baby through this.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's age-dependent in some respects.

When baby was younger (4 months-8 months), I think checks helped. She would get so insanely riled up that she couldn't sleep. She just didn't have good coping mechanisms.

However, she's older now (14 months) and the checks just stir her up. She's able to self-soothe, and she doesn't actually "need" us-- she just wants to continue hanging out.

I agree. I had a friend who did no checks and then came in the next morning seeing her child covered in vomit. When the child is older, you can differentiate cries between loneliness and actual need to be cleaned up.

That can happen to anyone though. I checked on DD before going to bed and in the morning she was covered in vomit. She just didn't cry I guess (we are light sleepers). Shared the shit out of us because she wasn't even rolling yet! Just laying on her back vomiting.

I don't know how anyone would do this without a baby monitor? OK, you decided not to go to the room, but you need to keep an eye on them, precisely for vomit.