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Anonymous wrote:Man says he’ll sue Maryland PD for viral arrest, turns out he had two warrants
Cops have to walk on eggshells even around actual criminals
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/local/maryland/maryland-police-arrest-caught-on-viral-tiktok-video-anne-arundel-county/65-fef6ec1a-4e68-4f83-b32a-27a2f0f1ce39

Let's summarize what actually happened.

The police pulled over a driver for going 45 in 30. (I wish they did that in my neighborhood.)

Then the police asked the passenger for ID. (Something that has never, ever happened to me during any of the times the police have stopped me either as a driver or a passenger.)

The passenger responded that he did not need to show ID. (True.)

Then the police somehow (how?) found out the identity of the passenger and that there were two warrants out for him: one for failure to appear in court and another retake warrant from the parole commission.

So they asked the passenger to get out of the car, and he said no.

So they hauled the passenger out of the car and charged him with resisting arrest.

Wait a minute, we do not need to show identification or drivers license pulled over? This is the first I’ve ever heard of that.

If you're the driver, you do. If you're a passenger, you don't.

This entire time I have missed that he was a passenger. However I still say it was a clean arrest because it is their job to familiarize themselves with the faces of people who have outstanding warrants, he had two.

No it is NOT a “clean arrest” it was illegal.

not unless his attorneys have some way to prove the police were lying when they said they recognized him. You lose a whole lot of rights if you have outstanding warrants

It is illegal to demand a passenger provide an ID or to detain without cause.

The rest is a red herring. There are a plethora of ways to legally arrest somebody with a warrant, this is not one of them. We don’t live in a police state.

outstanding warrants are cause

You can’t just walk around demanding ID to check for warrants.

If you have probable cause of an offense you can ask for ID.

But you “fit the description “ is not probable cause.

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to get out of the car and having to be hauled out is resisting. That alone is sufficient reason to be arrested all by itself, irrespective of open warrants or not showing ID.

This is what happens when everyone thinks they’re the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. Everyone becomes a jailhouse lawyer.

the car was going 5 over. The absence of a warrant would make for a hell of a lawsuit (I'm guessing there are reams of dascam footage where white ladies are not asked to exit vehicles in AAco), but there were warrants and the cops claimed the recognized him, so he really has no recourse

He has recourse since it was illegal search and seizure.

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to get out of the car and having to be hauled out is resisting. That alone is sufficient reason to be arrested all by itself, irrespective of open warrants or not showing ID.

This is what happens when everyone thinks they’re the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. Everyone becomes a jailhouse lawyer.

the car was going 5 over. The absence of a warrant would make for a hell of a lawsuit (I'm guessing there are reams of dascam footage where white ladies are not asked to exit vehicles in AAco), but there were warrants and the cops claimed the recognized him, so he really has no recourse

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Anonymous wrote:Man says he’ll sue Maryland PD for viral arrest, turns out he had two warrants
Cops have to walk on eggshells even around actual criminals
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/local/maryland/maryland-police-arrest-caught-on-viral-tiktok-video-anne-arundel-county/65-fef6ec1a-4e68-4f83-b32a-27a2f0f1ce39

Let's summarize what actually happened.

The police pulled over a driver for going 45 in 30. (I wish they did that in my neighborhood.)

Then the police asked the passenger for ID. (Something that has never, ever happened to me during any of the times the police have stopped me either as a driver or a passenger.)

The passenger responded that he did not need to show ID. (True.)

Then the police somehow (how?) found out the identity of the passenger and that there were two warrants out for him: one for failure to appear in court and another retake warrant from the parole commission.

So they asked the passenger to get out of the car, and he said no.

So they hauled the passenger out of the car and charged him with resisting arrest.

Wait a minute, we do not need to show identification or drivers license pulled over? This is the first I’ve ever heard of that.

If you're the driver, you do. If you're a passenger, you don't.

This entire time I have missed that he was a passenger. However I still say it was a clean arrest because it is their job to familiarize themselves with the faces of people who have outstanding warrants, he had two.

No it is NOT a “clean arrest” it was illegal.

not unless his attorneys have some way to prove the police were lying when they said they recognized him. You lose a whole lot of rights if you have outstanding warrants

It is illegal to demand a passenger provide an ID or to detain without cause.

The rest is a red herring. There are a plethora of ways to legally arrest somebody with a warrant, this is not one of them. We don’t live in a police state.

outstanding warrants are cause

Anonymous wrote:The refusal to get out of the car and having to be hauled out is resisting. That alone is sufficient reason to be arrested all by itself, irrespective of open warrants or not showing ID.

This is what happens when everyone thinks they’re the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. Everyone becomes a jailhouse lawyer.

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Anonymous wrote:The refusal to get out of the car and having to be hauled out is resisting. That alone is sufficient reason to be arrested all by itself, irrespective of open warrants or not showing ID.

This is what happens when everyone thinks they’re the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. Everyone becomes a jailhouse lawyer.

Wait, what? Resisting arrest is sufficient cause for arrest?

Anonymous wrote:The refusal to get out of the car and having to be hauled out is resisting. That alone is sufficient reason to be arrested all by itself, irrespective of open warrants or not showing ID.

This is what happens when everyone thinks they’re the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. Everyone becomes a jailhouse lawyer.

Anonymous wrote:The refusal to get out of the car and having to be hauled out is resisting. That alone is sufficient reason to be arrested all by itself, irrespective of open warrants or not showing ID.

This is what happens when everyone thinks they’re the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. Everyone becomes a jailhouse lawyer.

Anonymous wrote:I would absolutely refuse to show ID in this situation. I feel like this is an issue on which the right and left can come together, we are not a country in which a person can be asked to "show papers."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man says he’ll sue Maryland PD for viral arrest, turns out he had two warrants
Cops have to walk on eggshells even around actual criminals
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/local/maryland/maryland-police-arrest-caught-on-viral-tiktok-video-anne-arundel-county/65-fef6ec1a-4e68-4f83-b32a-27a2f0f1ce39

Let's summarize what actually happened.

The police pulled over a driver for going 45 in 30. (I wish they did that in my neighborhood.)

Then the police asked the passenger for ID. (Something that has never, ever happened to me during any of the times the police have stopped me either as a driver or a passenger.)

The passenger responded that he did not need to show ID. (True.)

Then the police somehow (how?) found out the identity of the passenger and that there were two warrants out for him: one for failure to appear in court and another retake warrant from the parole commission.

So they asked the passenger to get out of the car, and he said no.

So they hauled the passenger out of the car and charged him with resisting arrest.

Wait a minute, we do not need to show identification or drivers license pulled over? This is the first I’ve ever heard of that.

If you're the driver, you do. If you're a passenger, you don't.

This entire time I have missed that he was a passenger. However I still say it was a clean arrest because it is their job to familiarize themselves with the faces of people who have outstanding warrants, he had two.

No it is NOT a “clean arrest” it was illegal.

not unless his attorneys have some way to prove the police were lying when they said they recognized him. You lose a whole lot of rights if you have outstanding warrants

It is illegal to demand a passenger provide an ID or to detain without cause.

The rest is a red herring. There are a plethora of ways to legally arrest somebody with a warrant, this is not one of them. We don’t live in a police state.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man says he’ll sue Maryland PD for viral arrest, turns out he had two warrants
Cops have to walk on eggshells even around actual criminals
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/local/maryland/maryland-police-arrest-caught-on-viral-tiktok-video-anne-arundel-county/65-fef6ec1a-4e68-4f83-b32a-27a2f0f1ce39

Let's summarize what actually happened.

The police pulled over a driver for going 45 in 30. (I wish they did that in my neighborhood.)

Then the police asked the passenger for ID. (Something that has never, ever happened to me during any of the times the police have stopped me either as a driver or a passenger.)

The passenger responded that he did not need to show ID. (True.)

Then the police somehow (how?) found out the identity of the passenger and that there were two warrants out for him: one for failure to appear in court and another retake warrant from the parole commission.

So they asked the passenger to get out of the car, and he said no.

So they hauled the passenger out of the car and charged him with resisting arrest.

Wait a minute, we do not need to show identification or drivers license pulled over? This is the first I’ve ever heard of that.

If you're the driver, you do. If you're a passenger, you don't.

This entire time I have missed that he was a passenger. However I still say it was a clean arrest because it is their job to familiarize themselves with the faces of people who have outstanding warrants, he had two.

No it is NOT a “clean arrest” it was illegal.

not unless his attorneys have some way to prove the police were lying when they said they recognized him. You lose a whole lot of rights if you have outstanding warrants

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man says he’ll sue Maryland PD for viral arrest, turns out he had two warrants
Cops have to walk on eggshells even around actual criminals
https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/local/maryland/maryland-police-arrest-caught-on-viral-tiktok-video-anne-arundel-county/65-fef6ec1a-4e68-4f83-b32a-27a2f0f1ce39

Let's summarize what actually happened.

The police pulled over a driver for going 45 in 30. (I wish they did that in my neighborhood.)

Then the police asked the passenger for ID. (Something that has never, ever happened to me during any of the times the police have stopped me either as a driver or a passenger.)

The passenger responded that he did not need to show ID. (True.)

Then the police somehow (how?) found out the identity of the passenger and that there were two warrants out for him: one for failure to appear in court and another retake warrant from the parole commission.

So they asked the passenger to get out of the car, and he said no.

So they hauled the passenger out of the car and charged him with resisting arrest.

Wait a minute, we do not need to show identification or drivers license pulled over? This is the first I’ve ever heard of that.

If you're the driver, you do. If you're a passenger, you don't.

This entire time I have missed that he was a passenger. However I still say it was a clean arrest because it is their job to familiarize themselves with the faces of people who have outstanding warrants, he had two.

No it is NOT a “clean arrest” it was illegal.

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This entire time I have missed that he was a passenger. However I still say it was a clean arrest because it is their job to familiarize themselves with the faces of people who have outstanding warrants, he had two.

How many outstanding warrants are there, just in Anne Arundel County? Do beat officers spend a few hours every shift looking at mug shots?