Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 15:56     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Is he in Cornell and Dartmouth yet? Cornell admit is around 13%; however, it all depends on the program. Their hotel program might be 24%. But their engineering is much lower. Your kid might not make it in.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 15:40     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of them are even in the Top 10. Have you discussed priorities with him?


+1. Does he want to go to an Ivy just to say he did? Because it won't give any edge in finding a job. His worry about Cornell makes him sound like he lacks maturity/is insecure.


It's more about a sense of accomplishment. He's worked very hard and feels he deserves better than Cornell. It's unfortunate they have a very strong engineering program but that he feels very little interest in the school aside from loosely being acknowledged as an Ivy school.


Guess he should have worked harder so he could get into a “better” school.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 15:40     Subject: Re:Ivy league engineering
Are you sure he can handle Cornell? I know a super star kid from the DC area who started this year at Cornell Engineering. He is getting his ass kicked. His words, not mine. He said it feels 50x harder than his HS which is a well regarded public HS in the DC area.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 15:38     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our DS is the opposite.. High stats on paper (in the 75th percentile or above at all the ivies) but doesn't want to apply to because of the low admit rates.

Cornell was on his list but we talked him out of it given the cold, desolate location and Cornell's reputation for being a tough program with grade deflation.

My personal opinion is that his outcomes would be better if he went to any ivy or other top private (any one). How long will he remain a hands-on engineer anyways?


Exactly my worry. A rigorous program but viewed as being the "lowest" ivy

I promise you and your DS that Cornell grads are not suffering professionally due the lack of prestige of their school.

But this whole post *has* to be a troll. Who on earth knows they want to be an engineer, cares a ridiculous amount about prestige, and doesn't include MIT, Stanford, and CalTech on their list?!
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 15:35     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of them are even in the Top 10. Have you discussed priorities with him?


+1. Does he want to go to an Ivy just to say he did? Because it won't give any edge in finding a job. His worry about Cornell makes him sound like he lacks maturity/is insecure.


It's more about a sense of accomplishment. He's worked very hard and feels he deserves better than Cornell. It's unfortunate they have a very strong engineering program but that he feels very little interest in the school aside from loosely being acknowledged as an Ivy school.


He deserves better? Talk about being entitled. I tell my kids that no one deserves anything in life.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 15:34     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:DS is dead-set on attending an Ivy league school, but is also only interested in engineering. Based on my research, the strength of the engineering program follows roughly this order:

Cornell
Columbia/Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown

Realistically we think he can only get into Cornell or Dartmouth. While Cornell may have the strongest program, in his situation he would likely lean toward Dartmouth because Dartmouth would still like a real ivy to him and he wouldn't feel insecure about attending Cornell which many think is not a "real" ivy. Would be be shooting himself in the foot by going to Dartmouth over Cornell for engineering?


Yes. Most definitely. Dumb move to pick Dartmouth over Cornell for Engineering.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 15:25     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:Hey is this another thread where we get to tell a parent what a stupid asshole their kid is? Awesome, love those! They are very helpful and really build self-esteem.

Jesus H. Christ on a cracker, pick colleges you like and apply and go to the one that accepts you that you like best. As long as they are ABET and have the intended engineering discipline you'll be fine.

As for the rest of you judgmental and unhelpful posters, you are a bunch of jerky-jerkfaces.


And they are relentless, also.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 14:55     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of them are even in the Top 10. Have you discussed priorities with him?


+1. Does he want to go to an Ivy just to say he did? Because it won't give any edge in finding a job. His worry about Cornell makes him sound like he lacks maturity/is insecure.


It's more about a sense of accomplishment. He's worked very hard and feels he deserves better than Cornell. It's unfortunate they have a very strong engineering program but that he feels very little interest in the school aside from loosely being acknowledged as an Ivy school.


12:25 here. Um, yea, his values are messed up.

+1000 no way in hell I’d pay $320k for this kid’s education
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 14:52     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our DS is the opposite.. High stats on paper (in the 75th percentile or above at all the ivies) but doesn't want to apply to because of the low admit rates.

Cornell was on his list but we talked him out of it given the cold, desolate location and Cornell's reputation for being a tough program with grade deflation.

My personal opinion is that his outcomes would be better if he went to any ivy or other top private (any one). How long will he remain a hands-on engineer anyways?


Exactly my worry. A rigorous program but viewed as being the "lowest" ivy


I don't think that will affect outcomes. I'd be more worried about rigor and grade deflation..
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 14:45     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our DS is the opposite.. High stats on paper (in the 75th percentile or above at all the ivies) but doesn't want to apply to because of the low admit rates.

Cornell was on his list but we talked him out of it given the cold, desolate location and Cornell's reputation for being a tough program with grade deflation.

My personal opinion is that his outcomes would be better if he went to any ivy or other top private (any one). How long will he remain a hands-on engineer anyways?


Exactly my worry. A rigorous program but viewed as being the "lowest" ivy


Viewed by whom? No one who matters.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 14:37     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:Our DS is the opposite.. High stats on paper (in the 75th percentile or above at all the ivies) but doesn't want to apply to because of the low admit rates.

Cornell was on his list but we talked him out of it given the cold, desolate location and Cornell's reputation for being a tough program with grade deflation.

My personal opinion is that his outcomes would be better if he went to any ivy or other top private (any one). How long will he remain a hands-on engineer anyways?


Exactly my worry. A rigorous program but viewed as being the "lowest" ivy
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 14:09     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Our DS is the opposite.. High stats on paper (in the 75th percentile or above at all the ivies) but doesn't want to apply to because of the low admit rates.

Cornell was on his list but we talked him out of it given the cold, desolate location and Cornell's reputation for being a tough program with grade deflation.

My personal opinion is that his outcomes would be better if he went to any ivy or other top private (any one). How long will he remain a hands-on engineer anyways?
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 14:08     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of them are even in the Top 10. Have you discussed priorities with him?


+1. Does he want to go to an Ivy just to say he did? Because it won't give any edge in finding a job. His worry about Cornell makes him sound like he lacks maturity/is insecure.


This. I was going to say his values seem off. Perhaps it is a maturity issue.


Kid sounds pretty unsophisticated.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 13:50     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:None of them are even in the Top 10. Have you discussed priorities with him?


Cornell is. Apparently #9 on USNWR undergraduate engineering (for whatever that ranking is worth)
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 13:42     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Just so that your son is prepared: Cornell is made up of 7 undergrad colleges and each are independent with respect to admissions. The College of Engineering, for males, has around a 6% admittance rate.