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Anonymous wrote:It's not about boosting revenues from applicant fees. The fees mostly just cover the actual cost of processing applications, which is considerable.

It's about getting as many applicants as possible, so that they can be as selective as possible AND to lower their admission rate, which gets factored into rankings and is also a sign of how elite they are, which can help be a bonus factor when recruiting faculty or students.

+1 million.
This is all about rankings and 'exclusivity', so every single college out there is interested in having as many applicants as humanely possible.
Answering your question, OP, no, I'm willing to bet your child will not get into Harvard. Sorry.

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Acceptance rate does not factor in the USN rankings.

Every one of my kids received spam from Harvard and even the occasional fancy snail mail. None of them would have had any chance whatsoever of actually getting accepted.

Colleges' marketing subcontractors buy names and addresses from College Board (for what was it, 17 cents or something) grouped by wide score range and demographics.

Harvard absolutely does not have your child's academic record or actual test score.

You can look up Harvard's admission stats in their Common Data Set. https://oir.harvard.edu/common-data-set section C

Anonymous wrote:It's not about boosting revenues from applicant fees. The fees mostly just cover the actual cost of processing applications, which is considerable.

It's about getting as many applicants as possible, so that they can be as selective as possible AND to lower their admission rate, which gets factored into rankings and is also a sign of how elite they are, which can help be a bonus factor when recruiting faculty or students.

+1 million.
This is all about rankings and 'exclusivity', so every single college out there is interested in having as many applicants as humanely possible.
Answering your question, OP, no, I'm willing to bet your child will not get into Harvard. Sorry.

Anonymous wrote:As another poster said - its about lowering their admit rate.

As another poster said - No, it isn't.

the mailings are just part of their outreach. As another poster said - its about lowering their admit rate.

I go to Harvard. They never emailed me about applying.

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Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

That makes sense only if they have to hire additional staff to do this work. If it's existing staff, they are already being paid to do this work and a few hundred more applications won't make a difference. Most of the initial whetting is outsourced to other firms or programs anyways..

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Anonymous wrote:From the law suits against H last year, H give every student who pass contain PSAT score an invitation letter. I don't remember the exactly score, but I remember for Asian student, the PSAT score is 400 higher than black and 200 higher than white? Or something like that.

So, if your DD passed that score, he/she will get letter.

Are you talking about the Harvard lawsuit that was funded by the conservative billionaires, because billionaires want to harm universities?




Agreed with PP who said Harvard is soliciting applications to lower its admit rate.

Sigh... this canard again.

Every college in the world wants as many applicants as they can get to pull from. End period. It's not a conspiracy.

To these people, everything is a conspiracy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the law suits against H last year, H give every student who pass contain PSAT score an invitation letter. I don't remember the exactly score, but I remember for Asian student, the PSAT score is 400 higher than black and 200 higher than white? Or something like that.

So, if your DD passed that score, he/she will get letter.

Are you talking about the Harvard lawsuit that was funded by the conservative billionaires, because billionaires want to harm universities?




Agreed with PP who said Harvard is soliciting applications to lower its admit rate.

Sigh... this canard again.

Every college in the world wants as many applicants as they can get to pull from. End period. It's not a conspiracy.

Anonymous wrote:My DC gets multiple pieces from U of Chicago every week. Also Yale, Princeton and Harvard have sent what I would call actual books, not brochures or pamphlets.

Does DC have the stats (test scores, grades, ECs, full pay, etc) for those schools? Yes, but so do thousands of others. I still think they are sending these materials to DC so that they can receive more applications so they can turn down more students so they can appear even more elite.

Chicago, yes. HYP don't really have any incentive to reduce their admissions rates.

OP if your son is interested in Harvard and has the strong academic record (and everything else) normally required, then I'd say go ahead and apply.

I fully expect my 2 kids to apply to several the Ivy League colleges as well as other places.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Yes but for subsequent rounds, admissions staff will extend far more than $80 worth of labor to evaluate individual applications and make final offer and waitlist decisions. The fees from the auto-rejected help pay fir that process. It’s a wash for the school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They cast a wide net, and remember application fees constitute a fabulous revenue source.

I know - that extra $3MM a year they get from application fees makes a huge difference.

For that $80 application fee or so, their computer will weed out the first round, so it's pure revenue for Harvaard.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the law suits against H last year, H give every student who pass contain PSAT score an invitation letter. I don't remember the exactly score, but I remember for Asian student, the PSAT score is 400 higher than black and 200 higher than white? Or something like that.

So, if your DD passed that score, he/she will get letter.

Are you talking about the Harvard lawsuit that was funded by the conservative billionaires, because billionaires want to harm universities?




Agreed with PP who said Harvard is soliciting applications to lower its admit rate.

Yes. It is the data released from that lawsuit.

H set up target recruit PSAT score differently based on students race. Asian student has the highest score bar. H want to all student pass those scores to apply, so their admission rate will be low.

Kid has the option of opting out when they take it. Mine did.

I did not want her to fall prey to the slickest brochure, so I think it was the smart move.