Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

What you don’t understand is that the rank and file central office staff have very little to do with these ham handed decisions. The top people at central do not like their authority questioned and tend to get rid of workers who push back. Yet it is the mid level and lower level folks who will be forced into classrooms while the top people who make these dumb decisions will happily continue to work from home

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

What you don’t understand is that the rank and file central office staff have very little to do with these ham handed decisions. The top people at central do not like their authority questioned and tend to get rid of workers who push back. Yet it is the mid level and lower level folks who will be forced into classrooms while the top people who make these dumb decisions will happily continue to work from home

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

This logic doesn't pan out. In the CARES classroom they'll simply be supervising not teaching.

If someone told me I'd still be paid to just watch custodians clean in person...well that's pretty cushy.

There is no such thing as "supervising" a classroom full of kids ages 3-6. I don't care if those kids are experiencing the highest quality DL education you could possibly conceive of. The person in charge of that classroom is a daycare teacher, qualified or not. You are going to be on your knees on the floor, talking those kids through crying jabs and meltdowns and negotiating sharing policies and everything else a daycare teacher does.

It will not be "cushy" and I sincerely hope, for the sake of everyone involved not least the kids, that the person is adequately paid and has the proper training for it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

This logic doesn't pan out. In the CARES classroom they'll simply be supervising not teaching.

If someone told me I'd still be paid to just watch custodians clean in person...well that's pretty cushy.

There is no such thing as "supervising" a classroom full of kids ages 3-6. I don't care if those kids are experiencing the highest quality DL education you could possibly conceive of. The person in charge of that classroom is a daycare teacher, qualified or not. You are going to be on your knees on the floor, talking those kids through crying jabs and meltdowns and negotiating sharing policies and everything else a daycare teacher does.

It will not be "cushy" and I sincerely hope, for the sake of everyone involved not least the kids, that the person is adequately paid and has the proper training for it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

This logic doesn't pan out. In the CARES classroom they'll simply be supervising not teaching.

If someone told me I'd still be paid to just watch custodians clean in person...well that's pretty cushy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know much about the "caring adult' in the CARES classrooms. They will NOT be staffed by teachers or other school staff. They only need to be over 18 and have passed a background check. They are to supervise the 11 students in the classroom as they learn virtually.

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Anonymous wrote:The Perry Stein article yesterday said central office staff need to be prepared to do this.

Yes. It is this. Central office staff are in an uproar about this. They do not want to do this. They are being forced.

Maybe if they had a union .....

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.