Anonymous
Post 10/14/2020 08:22     Subject: Re:Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Kids don't vote. That's why they get the short end of the stick constantly.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 23:08     Subject: Re:Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids will gladly give up EVERY Halloween if they can go back to school 5 days a week this school year.


We would too. We would also give up sports and outdoor play dates and just about anything else. However no one presents that choice. It’s give stuff up so places that need to be in person to earn money can open. So since my kids can’t have school I will darn well give them low-risk things like socially distanced trick or treating.


Trick or treating is not social distancing. Most things aren't real social distancing and its just the catch term to pretend you are being safe. You are why we cannot go back.


If my kids pick up a baggie of candy from a yard and we stay in our family unit, then sure it is.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 22:36     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
What’s even more annoying, people are seriously listening to all the dumb “guidelines” with zero critical thinking and canceling candy giveaway!
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 22:30     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules


I agree totally. Why isn't the fact that the schools are closed a major issue in this election? Why isn't on the front pages of the newspapers on a daily basis? We are sacrificing a whole generation of citizens.

In Canada, the premiers of the provinces are giving daily news conferences about the fall surge and what people need to do to preserve the school year and keep the schools open. It is in the news daily.



American Exceptionism- In the United Sates of America there is the unique belief that parenthood is a personal hobby, children are the sole responsibility of their parents and we have certain guidelines in place to treat them humanely, otherwise they are of no social good and have no value to society at large. The only reason we have public school is b/c this is a fairly recent phenomenon and tax for schooling is grandfathered in to our social set up. We are teh only society that feels that way about parenthood and child rearing but the truth is that Americans as a whole are pretty much the witches in Roald Dahl's book. the reason that our schools are so poorly funded is bc many tax payers feel it is not their responsibility to provide for an educated populace, as the share of people who have children grows smaller, public schools will actually close. It is difficult for people to understand this but it was your personal choice to bring children into this world and they are your responsibility and no-one besides yourselves cares wether they are ok or not. I don't actually agree with this at all and think it is the sign of a sick society but that is the prevailing sentiment in American society- your kids, like your God, are permitted but they need to be as unobtrusive as possible. The second weird belief that only americans hold is that: children are NOT a social good or capital for the engine of the economy (how the heck people figure that last idea is lost on me but they believe it)

No other society in the world holds these beliefs about children or the economy or parents, even countries with lopsided populations like Japan and italy and Spain are super supportive of parents and societies with huge populations like Pakistan and China also accept that children are important members of society and that supporting families is the ultimate goal of the economic engine and that parenting is contributing to society. This is one of those strange americanisms like everyone should be able to go to walmart and buy a gun, no questions asked. Everyone else in teh world thinks we are strange, exceptional in fact for holding this belief about families. this is also b/c we have a ready supply of immigrant and easy naturalization so native born americans hold no political or economic value.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 22:24     Subject: Re:Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Yes, we have rapid testing in place now and we have PPE.


Are you posting from the scrapbooking room at Michael's in a Trump 2016 county?

The Abbott labs rapid test has an unacceptably high false negative rate, even when the specimen is obtained correctly (and that's still a big "if" in October; the swabbers aren't doing it deep enough or for long enough in so many cases).

Meanwhile, no, we don't have enough stock of aerosol-blocking PPE as a country. ie, N95 masks for everyone, every few days, or PAPRs for staff like custodial or lunchroom staff who don't have to instruct. "We" are nowhere. near. this. best-practice. situation.

Sloppy Target Disney princess cloth masks that slip onto the chin =/= aerosolized particle barrier. Especially indoors
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 22:08     Subject: Re:Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids will gladly give up EVERY Halloween if they can go back to school 5 days a week this school year.


We would too. We would also give up sports and outdoor play dates and just about anything else. However no one presents that choice. It’s give stuff up so places that need to be in person to earn money can open. So since my kids can’t have school I will darn well give them low-risk things like socially distanced trick or treating.


PP you quoted and I totally agree. My kids are playing sports. And I’d be fine with trick or treating but I don’t know how many people would open the door so we are doing a neighborhood outdoor party in the cul de sac instead with costumes and pizza and goodies.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 22:04     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Its all overreaction and unsupported in science. Socially distance, wear a mask and have a great time! That's what my kids will be doing and the neighborhood listserv is alight with suggestions for how that will happen.

Closing schools is totally unsupported by science. And it exacerbates education disparities. Kids don't transmit this virus the way adults do. Until schools are open, businesses can't really open. Bars should be closed (because, science). Restaurants, not so much. Distance, wear a mask, wash your hands and move on people!


Please get a hobby. We don’t have the rapid testing in place or the amount of ppe. When was the last time you set foot in a public school in the dmv? Pre-pandemic, they were overcrowded. You can’t social distance.


Are you posting from June? Yes, we have rapid testing in place now and we have PPE.

Public schools need to get over themselves and reopen. Take a lesson from private schools and from public school all over the country.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:54     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
No one can ban Halloween
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:46     Subject: Re:Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids will gladly give up EVERY Halloween if they can go back to school 5 days a week this school year.


We would too. We would also give up sports and outdoor play dates and just about anything else. However no one presents that choice. It’s give stuff up so places that need to be in person to earn money can open. So since my kids can’t have school I will darn well give them low-risk things like socially distanced trick or treating.


Trick or treating is not social distancing. Most things aren't real social distancing and its just the catch term to pretend you are being safe. You are why we cannot go back.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:45     Subject: Re:Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
My community is having a haunted trail this weekend for the kids. A rails to trails runs through our town.



Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:45     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Tired of activities and eating out and traveling being spreaders and people cannot stay home and let the virus pass.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:43     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know where you are, but my kids have been swimming with a team for months, and soccer and other outdoor sports are going strong. Unless trick or treating is outright cancelled, lots of kids will be doing it. I know mine and their friends will be, and adults in the neighborhood are figuring out ways to offer candy in a socially distanced manner.


No field permits allowed in DC until today, no swimming pools over the summer. That's what PP is talking about. Yet teens and young adults are playing pickup basketball in each others faces.


Then call the non-emergency police # and stop complaining about individuals.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:39     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know where you are, but my kids have been swimming with a team for months, and soccer and other outdoor sports are going strong. Unless trick or treating is outright cancelled, lots of kids will be doing it. I know mine and their friends will be, and adults in the neighborhood are figuring out ways to offer candy in a socially distanced manner.


No field permits allowed in DC until today, no swimming pools over the summer. That's what PP is talking about. Yet teens and young adults are playing pickup basketball in each others faces.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:24     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Also annoyed. Our not-DC area still has a tight clamp on kids activities and school, but bars and indoor dining are open. We probably complained about it too much at home because we live around the corner from a bar that attracts a nose-out crowd on the sidewalk and my Kindergartner yelled “have fun drinking your BEER at your BAR!” in a snarky way at the doorway. It was 9 am so luckily no one was there.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2020 21:13     Subject: Tired of kids activities taking brunt of pandemic rules
Our neighborhood is tricker treating. If it’s banned then, then the kids will be going door to door to say hi to neighbors