Anonymous wrote:huh, an anecdote in the wapo that pushes an agenda which leads directly to increased market share for amazon. im shocked.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid-19 has killed over 200,000 Americans in SIX MONTHS. That's more per month/year than any war. How are we still pretending it is no big deal?

This virus is a formidable enemy. We need to unite to fight it, not whine about masks and skipping pedicures.


War -- Number of American deaths
American Civil War (1861-1865) 620,000
World War II (1939-1945) 405,399
World War I (1917-1918) 116,516
Vietnam War (1965-1973) 58,209
Korean War (1950-1953) 36,516
American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) 25,000
War of 1812 (1812-1815) 20,000
Mexican-American War (1846-1848) 13,283
War on Terror** (2001-present) 7,053
SpanishAmerican War (1898) 2,446
Gulf War (1990-1991) 258

group the war deaths and covid deaths by age ranges to get a better understanding of why not everyone feels the way you do. otherwise this is a completely disingenuous comparison void of any critical thinking.

So elderly lives and those of minorities and the lives of people with co-morbidities are worth....what? What about the overall health of athletes who may have long term effects, covid long haulers, and people who survive but are nearly disabled from their hospital stay? They are worth...what?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Covid-19 has killed over 200,000 Americans in SIX MONTHS. That's more per month/year than any war. How are we still pretending it is no big deal?

This virus is a formidable enemy. We need to unite to fight it, not whine about masks and skipping pedicures.


War -- Number of American deaths
American Civil War (1861-1865) 620,000
World War II (1939-1945) 405,399
World War I (1917-1918) 116,516
Vietnam War (1965-1973) 58,209
Korean War (1950-1953) 36,516
American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) 25,000
War of 1812 (1812-1815) 20,000
Mexican-American War (1846-1848) 13,283
War on Terror** (2001-present) 7,053
SpanishAmerican War (1898) 2,446
Gulf War (1990-1991) 258

group the war deaths and covid deaths by age ranges to get a better understanding of why not everyone feels the way you do. otherwise this is a completely disingenuous comparison void of any critical thinking.

So elderly lives and those of minorities and the lives of people with co-morbidities are worth....what? What about the overall health of athletes who may have long term effects, covid long haulers, and people who survive but are nearly disabled from their hospital stay? They are worth...what?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Covid-19 has killed over 200,000 Americans in SIX MONTHS. That's more per month/year than any war. How are we still pretending it is no big deal?

This virus is a formidable enemy. We need to unite to fight it, not whine about masks and skipping pedicures.


War -- Number of American deaths
American Civil War (1861-1865) 620,000
World War II (1939-1945) 405,399
World War I (1917-1918) 116,516
Vietnam War (1965-1973) 58,209
Korean War (1950-1953) 36,516
American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) 25,000
War of 1812 (1812-1815) 20,000
Mexican-American War (1846-1848) 13,283
War on Terror** (2001-present) 7,053
SpanishAmerican War (1898) 2,446
Gulf War (1990-1991) 258

group the war deaths and covid deaths by age ranges to get a better understanding of why not everyone feels the way you do. otherwise this is a completely disingenuous comparison void of any critical thinking.

Anonymous wrote:Covid-19 has killed over 200,000 Americans in SIX MONTHS. That's more per month/year than any war. How are we still pretending it is no big deal?

This virus is a formidable enemy. We need to unite to fight it, not whine about masks and skipping pedicures.


War -- Number of American deaths
American Civil War (1861-1865) 620,000
World War II (1939-1945) 405,399
World War I (1917-1918) 116,516
Vietnam War (1965-1973) 58,209
Korean War (1950-1953) 36,516
American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) 25,000
War of 1812 (1812-1815) 20,000
Mexican-American War (1846-1848) 13,283
War on Terror** (2001-present) 7,053
SpanishAmerican War (1898) 2,446
Gulf War (1990-1991) 258

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

Once again.. children don't die of covid! Non-elderly adults rarely do, too.
Chill, PP, enough of this hysteria!

Ignorant. Do you not know that increasing numbers of "recovered" patients are experiencing heart problems, other organ damage, brain fog and focus issues that go on and on, unending fatigue, shooting pains that don't end when they're "recovered" etc.?

You're in the simplistic "either you die or you get well" camp, I see.

This virus is not as simple as that. Oh yeah, and children can die from it. It's less likely, but no less horrible for their families. Generalized statements like "children don't die of Covid" only encourage people to be idiots about letting kids get exposed. And even if kids don't show symptoms or sicken or die, they can still infect other people. Including "non-elderly adults" who may end up with the ongoing problems you seem to think don't exist.

And the rises in cases around the country are being driven largely by positive cases in younger adults, 20s to 30s, due to going out after restrictions were lifted too soon.

it's not ignorant. PP was responding directly to the other PP's statement of "...we could die."

the answer of "children don't die ..." is absolutely the correct, scientifically proven response to that statement. just because you don't like the science, for whatever weird reason, doesn't mean it isn't real.

You are wrong.

Scientific FACTS:
In the US, 121 kids died of COVID 19 as of July 31.
10% were infants.
children represented 1.7% of total COVID hospitalizations, with 2% of children needing hospital care.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/aap-data-spotlight-rise-covid-19-cases-us-kids

ok. 121 out of how many infected? how does that risk rate compare to risks we willingly took pre-covid? how does that mortality rate and overall mortality numbers compare to influenza in a typical year? we both know the answer to all of these questions and the answer is it is the risk for children is not even measurable.

Yup! https://childrensnational.org/news-and-events/childrens-newsroom/2020/clinical-symptoms-of-covid-vs-flu

The study — detailed in the article “Comparison of Clinical Features of US Children With COVID-19 vs Seasonal Influenza A and B” — showed no statistically significant differences in the rates of hospitalization, admission to the intensive care unit and mechanical ventilator use between the two groups.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

Once again.. children don't die of covid! Non-elderly adults rarely do, too.
Chill, PP, enough of this hysteria!

Ignorant. Do you not know that increasing numbers of "recovered" patients are experiencing heart problems, other organ damage, brain fog and focus issues that go on and on, unending fatigue, shooting pains that don't end when they're "recovered" etc.?

You're in the simplistic "either you die or you get well" camp, I see.

This virus is not as simple as that. Oh yeah, and children can die from it. It's less likely, but no less horrible for their families. Generalized statements like "children don't die of Covid" only encourage people to be idiots about letting kids get exposed. And even if kids don't show symptoms or sicken or die, they can still infect other people. Including "non-elderly adults" who may end up with the ongoing problems you seem to think don't exist.

And the rises in cases around the country are being driven largely by positive cases in younger adults, 20s to 30s, due to going out after restrictions were lifted too soon.

it's not ignorant. PP was responding directly to the other PP's statement of "...we could die."

the answer of "children don't die ..." is absolutely the correct, scientifically proven response to that statement. just because you don't like the science, for whatever weird reason, doesn't mean it isn't real.

You are wrong.

Scientific FACTS:
In the US, 121 kids died of COVID 19 as of July 31.
10% were infants.
children represented 1.7% of total COVID hospitalizations, with 2% of children needing hospital care.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/aap-data-spotlight-rise-covid-19-cases-us-kids

ok. 121 out of how many infected? how does that risk rate compare to risks we willingly took pre-covid? how does that mortality rate and overall mortality numbers compare to influenza in a typical year? we both know the answer to all of these questions and the answer is it is the risk for children is not even measurable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

Once again.. children don't die of covid! Non-elderly adults rarely do, too.
Chill, PP, enough of this hysteria!

Ignorant. Do you not know that increasing numbers of "recovered" patients are experiencing heart problems, other organ damage, brain fog and focus issues that go on and on, unending fatigue, shooting pains that don't end when they're "recovered" etc.?

You're in the simplistic "either you die or you get well" camp, I see.

This virus is not as simple as that. Oh yeah, and children can die from it. It's less likely, but no less horrible for their families. Generalized statements like "children don't die of Covid" only encourage people to be idiots about letting kids get exposed. And even if kids don't show symptoms or sicken or die, they can still infect other people. Including "non-elderly adults" who may end up with the ongoing problems you seem to think don't exist.

And the rises in cases around the country are being driven largely by positive cases in younger adults, 20s to 30s, due to going out after restrictions were lifted too soon.

it's not ignorant. PP was responding directly to the other PP's statement of "...we could die."

the answer of "children don't die ..." is absolutely the correct, scientifically proven response to that statement. just because you don't like the science, for whatever weird reason, doesn't mean it isn't real.

You are wrong.

Scientific FACTS:
In the US, 121 kids died of COVID 19 as of July 31.
10% were infants.
children represented 1.7% of total COVID hospitalizations, with 2% of children needing hospital care.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/aap-data-spotlight-rise-covid-19-cases-us-kids

ok. 121 out of how many infected? how does that risk rate compare to risks we willingly took pre-covid? how does that mortality rate and overall mortality numbers compare to influenza in a typical year? we both know the answer to all of these questions and the answer is it is the risk for children is not even measurable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

Once again.. children don't die of covid! Non-elderly adults rarely do, too.
Chill, PP, enough of this hysteria!

Ignorant. Do you not know that increasing numbers of "recovered" patients are experiencing heart problems, other organ damage, brain fog and focus issues that go on and on, unending fatigue, shooting pains that don't end when they're "recovered" etc.?

You're in the simplistic "either you die or you get well" camp, I see.

This virus is not as simple as that. Oh yeah, and children can die from it. It's less likely, but no less horrible for their families. Generalized statements like "children don't die of Covid" only encourage people to be idiots about letting kids get exposed. And even if kids don't show symptoms or sicken or die, they can still infect other people. Including "non-elderly adults" who may end up with the ongoing problems you seem to think don't exist.

And the rises in cases around the country are being driven largely by positive cases in younger adults, 20s to 30s, due to going out after restrictions were lifted too soon.

it's not ignorant. PP was responding directly to the other PP's statement of "...we could die."

the answer of "children don't die ..." is absolutely the correct, scientifically proven response to that statement. just because you don't like the science, for whatever weird reason, doesn't mean it isn't real.

You are wrong.

Scientific FACTS:
In the US, 121 kids died of COVID 19 as of July 31.
10% were infants.
children represented 1.7% of total COVID hospitalizations, with 2% of children needing hospital care.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/aap-data-spotlight-rise-covid-19-cases-us-kids

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

Once again.. children don't die of covid! Non-elderly adults rarely do, too.
Chill, PP, enough of this hysteria!

Ignorant. Do you not know that increasing numbers of "recovered" patients are experiencing heart problems, other organ damage, brain fog and focus issues that go on and on, unending fatigue, shooting pains that don't end when they're "recovered" etc.?

You're in the simplistic "either you die or you get well" camp, I see.

This virus is not as simple as that. Oh yeah, and children can die from it. It's less likely, but no less horrible for their families. Generalized statements like "children don't die of Covid" only encourage people to be idiots about letting kids get exposed. And even if kids don't show symptoms or sicken or die, they can still infect other people. Including "non-elderly adults" who may end up with the ongoing problems you seem to think don't exist.

And the rises in cases around the country are being driven largely by positive cases in younger adults, 20s to 30s, due to going out after restrictions were lifted too soon.

it's not ignorant. PP was responding directly to the other PP's statement of "...we could die."

the answer of "children don't die ..." is absolutely the correct, scientifically proven response to that statement. just because you don't like the science, for whatever weird reason, doesn't mean it isn't real.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

Once again.. children don't die of covid! Non-elderly adults rarely do, too.
Chill, PP, enough of this hysteria!

Ignorant. Do you not know that increasing numbers of "recovered" patients are experiencing heart problems, other organ damage, brain fog and focus issues that go on and on, unending fatigue, shooting pains that don't end when they're "recovered" etc.?

You're in the simplistic "either you die or you get well" camp, I see.

This virus is not as simple as that. Oh yeah, and children can die from it. It's less likely, but no less horrible for their families. Generalized statements like "children don't die of Covid" only encourage people to be idiots about letting kids get exposed. And even if kids don't show symptoms or sicken or die, they can still infect other people. Including "non-elderly adults" who may end up with the ongoing problems you seem to think don't exist.

And the rises in cases around the country are being driven largely by positive cases in younger adults, 20s to 30s, due to going out after restrictions were lifted too soon.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

Once again.. children don't die of covid! Non-elderly adults rarely do, too.
Chill, PP, enough of this hysteria!

Anonymous wrote:I think it's an important story. We've been in a bubble with my elderly parents since the pandemic began. 8 days ago my kids were visiting them, and without telling me my parents let a relative who was visiting from out of town stop by. They met inside, without masks, and when my parents told me that I was floored. I couldn't believe it... They just said that they felt it would be ok. Two days ago my kids developed a sore throat and runny nose. Now I can't smell anything and have a runny nose. I'm getting tested today and we've all been staying put. Because of their behavior of not taking this seriously we could die.

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jsmith123 wrote:

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jsmith123 wrote:

Anonymous wrote:huh, an anecdote in the wapo that pushes an agenda which leads directly to increased market share for amazon. im shocked.

What was the amazon connection? I totally missed it.

the owner of the wapo is the founder/ceo/chairman/president/largest shareholder of amazon.

Sorry that part I know. What I'm unsure about is what the article had to do with amazon.com

DP. It could be so construed that continued sheltering at home equals a lot more Amazon ordering. Therefore more profit for Jeff Bezos.