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Anonymous wrote:Wowzers. I got a 1430 on my SAT and it was like the talk of my high school (about how high it was)! My kids are never getting into college!

How old are you PP? Back in the day (for me, graduating HS late 80s) a 1430 was a much better score than it is now.

1400 is the top 95%ile in SAT in 2020
1400 was the top 92%ile in SAT in 1990
1400 was the top 92%ile in 1980.

I don't know where this "old SAT" scores idea comes from, but it's not that accurate. It's more that we do a heck of a lot more self-sorting into highly educated neighborhoods now and colleges are more selective so you--who got a 1430 SAT--are more likely to live in an area like Northern Virginia with other people who also did and then their kids also do and it seems more common.

Anonymous wrote:I would think twice about applying ED at Brown --I know 4 kids that tried and got rejected (including my DD)

Look at historical college acceptances for your child's high school. How many have gotten accepted in the last 5 years?

She should definitely apply to Brown regular decision,

^^^^ This is TERRIBLE advice if Brown is your first choice and you can afford it.

I would think twice about applying ED at Brown --I know 4 kids that tried and got rejected (including my DD)

Look at historical college acceptances for your child's high school. How many have gotten accepted in the last 5 years?

She should definitely apply to Brown regular decision,

Anonymous wrote:Wowzers. I got a 1430 on my SAT and it was like the talk of my high school (about how high it was)! My kids are never getting into college!

How old are you PP? Back in the day (for me, graduating HS late 80s) a 1430 was a much better score than it is now.

Wowzers. I got a 1430 on my SAT and it was like the talk of my high school (about how high it was)! My kids are never getting into college!

The HS will not let you apply ED to more than one place. If the college thinks you backed out unfairly, you will not be punished but your HS will in next year's admissions cycle.

If you love Brown and can afford it I highly recommend applying ED there. I have a kid there and they love it.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

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OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

You need something better than "after a court decision" and "it's the wild west now" to violate the rules.

I believe this referred to poaching students generally after they've made a decision, not to breaching the ED commitment.

+1 An ED agreement is still an ED agreement. Schools can still come after you, but you won't be let out of your ED commitment to take another/better offer.

Anonymous wrote:W&L seems more of a reach than W&M, even without the scholarship angle.

Agree, I don't think ED is necessary at W&M (unless it's the student's clear first choice), those stats are plenty good for RD. My kid's counselor told him W&M was a safety with similar grades, tho a higher test score.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

+1

OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

You need something better than "after a court decision" and "it's the wild west now" to violate the rules.

I believe this referred to poaching students generally after they've made a decision, not to breaching the ED commitment.

"You need something better than "after a court decision" and "it's the wild west now" to violate the rules."

+1

Think about it OP, if it really is that "wild west" then the schools are the first to know.

If they took hits with the class of 2024, there will be little to no easier admission benefit of ED.

Not that there is anything wrong with schools dropping the ED benefit.

She should have a great shot at W&M ED. My dd’s friends that got in didn’t even have a weighted 4.0 and had scores in the 1300s.

Anonymous wrote:W&L seems more of a reach than W&M, even without the scholarship angle.

+1 W&L is really hard to get into

W&L seems more of a reach than W&M, even without the scholarship angle.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

+1

OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

You need something better than "after a court decision" and "it's the wild west now" to violate the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you willing & able to pay for Brown? If not, tell her now and don’t allow her to apply ED there (Under some scenarios, she could potentially apply RD and then, when you see all her results, you (pl) can decide which trade-offs are worth making.)

That said, she can’t do Washington & Lee (full ride) over W&M if she applies and gets into W&M as an ED applicant.

So if this is a price-sensitive decision, DC shouldn’t apply ED anywhere.

+1

OP here. It's my understanding that's no loner the case after a court decision last year. A friend of mine on the College Board told me "it's the wild west now."

If she gets in somewhere ED and someone else wants to entice her to come with a better financial offer, they can do that.

Please don’t do this, OP. If you don’t like the rules, don’t go ahead and cheat — just don’t play the game (i.e., don’t apply ED). If you run the Net Price Calculator and apply ED with the understanding of what you’ll be expected to pay, you CAN decline if your daughter doesn’t get the expected financial aid from the ED school. But please don’t F around with the ED prices just because you feel like it’s “the Wild West.”