Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:12     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html


I don’t think this article is a good example of your OP. Now if the guy was belligerent with the cop, or resisted arrest, or refused to own up to what he did, then maybe.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:11     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html

So this is not about your kid? Why are you wasting our time?


It is the perfect example of “the rules don’t apply to me” mentality I was referring to.

And “wasting your time”???? This is DCUM. If that is your concern, this is the wrong website for you. All we do here is waste time.

Seriously, how are you wondering where your DS gets it from? Or perhaps you are the teen in question?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:09     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, kids these days are worse than any other kids that came before, and it's all the result of poor parenting by indulgent ninnies. Just like in the 1950s, the 1890s, the 1570s...


I actually think teens of the past were far more afraid to tell off adults. And most teens would have been punished for doing so. It is different now.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:07     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was one of those hard headed teens. I just truly felt I was more knowledgeable than adults. I couldn’t see past what I deemed their ignorance when in reality - it was my own.

I had a great home life - didn’t see if they way at the time I just went thru the angst phase. I wanted to be free of all rules, etc... wore black all the time. Went completely goth.

I like to see this. I have a teenage son and a daughter. My teenage son’s instinctive reaction to any sort of authority lately seems to push back. He was such an easy going kid. And now, I feel like he’s challenging everything. And he is definitely the smartest person in the house, in his own eyes. We apparently cannot teach him anything.

That sounds like a typical, run of the mill teenager. Not sure that anything is out of place here.


OP here. So if your teen blasted music at the pool, against the rules, and was aided by the lifeguard to turn it off, and your teen yelled and cursed at the lifeguard, you would be okay with that?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:07     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am female and I always argued with "authority figures" if I felt they were being unfair / bias / assholes - as a pre-teen, a teen, a young woman and a woman of middle age. I shall continue to stand for being treated with respect and equality at all times.

Perhaps these young boys and men feel the same about the way they are spoken to and / or treated.


Baes on your post, it appears you are the same way.


The same way as what? Are you able to express yourself a little better than that perhaps?

DP. Above pp proved her point, well you proved her point with your eff you reply. Now we know where your ds gets it.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:06     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html

So this is not about your kid? Why are you wasting our time?


It is the perfect example of “the rules don’t apply to me” mentality I was referring to.

And “wasting your time”???? This is DCUM. If that is your concern, this is the wrong website for you. All we do here is waste time.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:06     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was one of those hard headed teens. I just truly felt I was more knowledgeable than adults. I couldn’t see past what I deemed their ignorance when in reality - it was my own.

I had a great home life - didn’t see if they way at the time I just went thru the angst phase. I wanted to be free of all rules, etc... wore black all the time. Went completely goth.

I like to see this. I have a teenage son and a daughter. My teenage son’s instinctive reaction to any sort of authority lately seems to push back. He was such an easy going kid. And now, I feel like he’s challenging everything. And he is definitely the smartest person in the house, in his own eyes. We apparently cannot teach him anything.

That sounds like a typical, run of the mill teenager. Not sure that anything is out of place here.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 08:00     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html

So this is not about your kid? Why are you wasting our time?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 07:59     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 07:57     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Yes, OP, kids these days are worse than any other kids that came before, and it's all the result of poor parenting by indulgent ninnies. Just like in the 1950s, the 1890s, the 1570s...
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2020 07:39     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am female and I always argued with "authority figures" if I felt they were being unfair / bias / assholes - as a pre-teen, a teen, a young woman and a woman of middle age. I shall continue to stand for being treated with respect and equality at all times.

Perhaps these young boys and men feel the same about the way they are spoken to and / or treated.


Baes on your post, it appears you are the same way.


The same way as what? Are you able to express yourself a little better than that perhaps?
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2020 21:34     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or otherwise have huge chips on their shoulders...is this a mental illness? A product of poor parenting or parental neglect? Like seriously what is this? I feel like the frequency in which this occurs is increasing exponentially. I’m talking beyond normal rebellion - most 15-25 year old boys do NOT act this way.

Example: (and don’t fixate on the specific example - but I am seeing this type of thing more and more in all areas of life)

Normal rebellion: group of teens at neighborhood pool play loud music in violation of rules, but turns it off when requested by lifeguard/pool staff to do so.

Not normal but occurring more often: same thing as above but when asks to turn it off becomes belligerent, entitled, curses, refuses or is otherwise rude to pool staff.


Well, it's kind of trendy right now....


It’s not trendy. It’s poor parenting. Indulging these children, lack of manners, and respect for themselves and others. If your child acts this way to others, you have failed as a parent.

+1
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2020 21:30     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:I am female and I always argued with "authority figures" if I felt they were being unfair / bias / assholes - as a pre-teen, a teen, a young woman and a woman of middle age. I shall continue to stand for being treated with respect and equality at all times.

Perhaps these young boys and men feel the same about the way they are spoken to and / or treated.


Baes on your post, it appears you are the same way.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2020 20:52     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
I am female and I always argued with "authority figures" if I felt they were being unfair / bias / assholes - as a pre-teen, a teen, a young woman and a woman of middle age. I shall continue to stand for being treated with respect and equality at all times.

Perhaps these young boys and men feel the same about the way they are spoken to and / or treated.
Anonymous
Post 09/21/2020 20:46     Subject: Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures
Anonymous wrote:PP and I think this is direct result of maybe two generations of parents who OVER explain and complicate every thing that pertains to their child. There’s never a simple “no!” or a withering look - it’s “Kaden Drake? Friend? Let’s put it down. Kaden? Are you hearing me? Hello? Kaden? Let’s re-think: are you making a good choice? You should go ahead and think about putting it down, mmmkay? Alright, buddy. That’s 1. One. Twooooo. Kaden? Remember what I asked?”

Parents have become wimpy pushovers. Choices given. Questions asked. Zero discipline. Time outs and count downs mean plenty of time to throw a temper tantrum or bargain.



Totally agree. My theory is that some parents are afraid that their kids will not love the or something. I think that my duty is to prepare a functioning future adult member of the society. Love will follow if I do it right.