Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did somehow people cheat to get into the school?

In a nutshell, one prep company prepped 28% of this years freshman. That’s 133 kids. It’s insane given how competing the prep company market is in NVa. Two years ago, they got 51 kids in and last year it was around 80. The company has been around for YEARS, so such a massive increase raises eyebrows. The company (foolishly) posted the lists of first and last names TJ admits to their FB page each year, so it’s easy to verify.

THEN, current TJ students started posting online on various social media that the company HAD A COPY of the test ahead of time. This test is supposed to be “unpreppable” but the company got students to report back what the questions were after the test. Then they used that to help the students taking the test on the accommodations day, summer round admissions and of course for the next years class. Apparently FCPS and the owners of the TJ admissions test have been watching the company for a while, so this was a good opportunity to do something. This prep company is making millions off of gaming the TJ admissions process.

Added on top of that the this prep company virtually ONLY preps students of one specific background. Added to that almost no Hispanic or black students were admitted and girls were sorely underrepresented as well. It just looks disgusting and simply cannot continue.

Our very own Varsity Blues-type scandal for FCPS. Awesome, thanks cheaters for creating a problem during a time when there are already plenty of problems.

Asking students what the questions were and having a COPY of the exam are two different things.

Also, girls are not SORELY underrepresented.

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Anonymous wrote:PP - be honest and do not mislead people. None of this is happening for the benefit of Black and Hispanic students. This was very clear from the PPT shared at the school board meeting. The projected number of Black and Hispanic students under the new model is still in the single digits. So your theory of "others like them" is flawed. The group where the model showed the most drastic increase were whites. OK? Whites. That's the group driving the process. That's the group that feels slighted by the prevalence of Asians at TJ. Not Blacks and Hispanics.

That's just false. On that slide, modeling for the class of 2024, you saw whites increase from 18-25%, Blacks from 1-7% and Hispanic from 3-8%. And that's with a depressed applicant pool.

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Anonymous wrote:PP - be honest and do not mislead people. None of this is happening for the benefit of Black and Hispanic students. This was very clear from the PPT shared at the school board meeting. The projected number of Black and Hispanic students under the new model is still in the single digits. So your theory of "others like them" is flawed. The group where the model showed the most drastic increase were whites. OK? Whites. That's the group driving the process. That's the group that feels slighted by the prevalence of Asians at TJ. Not Blacks and Hispanics.

+1 and I'd say specifically white girls.

Anonymous wrote:How many fewer girls were admitted this year.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did somehow people cheat to get into the school?

Yes. Hundreds of kids cheated and bribed their way into Harvard, USC, Georgetown, Duke, UCLA etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did somehow people cheat to get into the school?

In a nutshell, one prep company prepped 28% of this years freshman. That’s 133 kids. It’s insane given how competing the prep company market is in NVa. Two years ago, they got 51 kids in and last year it was around 80. The company has been around for YEARS, so such a massive increase raises eyebrows. The company (foolishly) posted the lists of first and last names TJ admits to their FB page each year, so it’s easy to verify.

THEN, current TJ students started posting online on various social media that the company HAD A COPY of the test ahead of time. This test is supposed to be “unpreppable” but the company got students to report back what the questions were after the test. Then they used that to help the students taking the test on the accommodations day, summer round admissions and of course for the next years class. Apparently FCPS and the owners of the TJ admissions test have been watching the company for a while, so this was a good opportunity to do something. This prep company is making millions off of gaming the TJ admissions process.

Added on top of that the this prep company virtually ONLY preps students of one specific background. Added to that almost no Hispanic or black students were admitted and girls were sorely underrepresented as well. It just looks disgusting and simply cannot continue.

Our very own Varsity Blues-type scandal for FCPS. Awesome, thanks cheaters for creating a problem during a time when there are already plenty of problems.

None of what you described is cheating.

It is cheating when the Quant-Q is supposed to be secure. It's not illegal, but it creates an intentional imbalance in the process because FCPS is disallowed from offering any prep material for it by the company that produces the exam.

Sounds like a problem between FCPS and Quant-Q. There's still no indication who is cheating or doing anything illegal.

If the Quant-Q is compromised, there's no value in using it. People are obsessed with the question of if it's CHEATING or ILLEGAL - but that misses the point....probably intentionally. The Quant-Q has absolutely no value if students are able to prepare for it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did somehow people cheat to get into the school?

In a nutshell, one prep company prepped 28% of this years freshman. That’s 133 kids. It’s insane given how competing the prep company market is in NVa. Two years ago, they got 51 kids in and last year it was around 80. The company has been around for YEARS, so such a massive increase raises eyebrows. The company (foolishly) posted the lists of first and last names TJ admits to their FB page each year, so it’s easy to verify.

THEN, current TJ students started posting online on various social media that the company HAD A COPY of the test ahead of time. This test is supposed to be “unpreppable” but the company got students to report back what the questions were after the test. Then they used that to help the students taking the test on the accommodations day, summer round admissions and of course for the next years class. Apparently FCPS and the owners of the TJ admissions test have been watching the company for a while, so this was a good opportunity to do something. This prep company is making millions off of gaming the TJ admissions process.

Added on top of that the this prep company virtually ONLY preps students of one specific background. Added to that almost no Hispanic or black students were admitted and girls were sorely underrepresented as well. It just looks disgusting and simply cannot continue.

Our very own Varsity Blues-type scandal for FCPS. Awesome, thanks cheaters for creating a problem during a time when there are already plenty of problems.

None of what you described is cheating.

It is cheating when the Quant-Q is supposed to be secure. It's not illegal, but it creates an intentional imbalance in the process because FCPS is disallowed from offering any prep material for it by the company that produces the exam.

Sounds like a problem between FCPS and Quant-Q. There's still no indication who is cheating or doing anything illegal.

Anonymous wrote:PP - be honest and do not mislead people. None of this is happening for the benefit of Black and Hispanic students. This was very clear from the PPT shared at the school board meeting. The projected number of Black and Hispanic students under the new model is still in the single digits. So your theory of "others like them" is flawed. The group where the model showed the most drastic increase were whites. OK? Whites. That's the group driving the process. That's the group that feels slighted by the prevalence of Asians at TJ. Not Blacks and Hispanics.

Anonymous wrote:PP - be honest and do not mislead people. None of this is happening for the benefit of Black and Hispanic students. This was very clear from the PPT shared at the school board meeting. The projected number of Black and Hispanic students under the new model is still in the single digits. So your theory of "others like them" is flawed. The group where the model showed the most drastic increase were whites. OK? Whites. That's the group driving the process. That's the group that feels slighted by the prevalence of Asians at TJ. Not Blacks and Hispanics.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did somehow people cheat to get into the school?

In a nutshell, one prep company prepped 28% of this years freshman. That’s 133 kids. It’s insane given how competing the prep company market is in NVa. Two years ago, they got 51 kids in and last year it was around 80. The company has been around for YEARS, so such a massive increase raises eyebrows. The company (foolishly) posted the lists of first and last names TJ admits to their FB page each year, so it’s easy to verify.

THEN, current TJ students started posting online on various social media that the company HAD A COPY of the test ahead of time. This test is supposed to be “unpreppable” but the company got students to report back what the questions were after the test. Then they used that to help the students taking the test on the accommodations day, summer round admissions and of course for the next years class. Apparently FCPS and the owners of the TJ admissions test have been watching the company for a while, so this was a good opportunity to do something. This prep company is making millions off of gaming the TJ admissions process.

Added on top of that the this prep company virtually ONLY preps students of one specific background. Added to that almost no Hispanic or black students were admitted and girls were sorely underrepresented as well. It just looks disgusting and simply cannot continue.

Our very own Varsity Blues-type scandal for FCPS. Awesome, thanks cheaters for creating a problem during a time when there are already plenty of problems.

None of what you described is cheating.

It is cheating when the Quant-Q is supposed to be secure. It's not illegal, but it creates an intentional imbalance in the process because FCPS is disallowed from offering any prep material for it by the company that produces the exam.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did somehow people cheat to get into the school?

In a nutshell, one prep company prepped 28% of this years freshman. That’s 133 kids. It’s insane given how competing the prep company market is in NVa. Two years ago, they got 51 kids in and last year it was around 80. The company has been around for YEARS, so such a massive increase raises eyebrows. The company (foolishly) posted the lists of first and last names TJ admits to their FB page each year, so it’s easy to verify.

THEN, current TJ students started posting online on various social media that the company HAD A COPY of the test ahead of time. This test is supposed to be “unpreppable” but the company got students to report back what the questions were after the test. Then they used that to help the students taking the test on the accommodations day, summer round admissions and of course for the next years class. Apparently FCPS and the owners of the TJ admissions test have been watching the company for a while, so this was a good opportunity to do something. This prep company is making millions off of gaming the TJ admissions process.

Added on top of that the this prep company virtually ONLY preps students of one specific background. Added to that almost no Hispanic or black students were admitted and girls were sorely underrepresented as well. It just looks disgusting and simply cannot continue.

Our very own Varsity Blues-type scandal for FCPS. Awesome, thanks cheaters for creating a problem during a time when there are already plenty of problems.