USNWR is a cancer on the whole system. The rankings change for stupid reasons every year just so they can sell crap.

The dirty secret is that it generally doesn't really matter where you go to school for undergrad. Successful people will be successful no matter where they go. Without the added dumb pressure of USNWR rankings, college tuition would be lower.

As someone in academia, these rankings are a joke. Schools manipulate numbers and move things around to improve rankings. I really wish students/parents/alums would stop caring about these stupid rankings so colleges and universities could stop playing the game and focus their energy elsewhere.

Anonymous wrote:Oberlin is declining

What was it last year?

Oberlin is declining

Cornell dropped to #18, lol. It's basically not an Ivy league any more

Duke outside the top 10? Maybe they're on a decline

Kind of surprised to see UF so high

Anonymous wrote:Emory will pass Cornell eventually. DC will explode

Why is Emory so high? Does it know how to play the game or is there some kind of amazing draw?

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Anonymous wrote:63 St Johns

63 Reed


Expected for schools that refused to play USNews ranking game for years. Had they played the game, they would be in T20s.

Not St Johns. Any full pay DMV kid with a mix of A's and B's and an SAT over 1300 can get in there.

DP- I agree- Reed should be in th 30s if they played the game, but St. John’s is probably where it should be.

Anonymous wrote:63 St Johns

63 Reed


Expected for schools that refused to play USNews ranking game for years. Had they played the game, they would be in T20s.

Not St Johns. Any full pay DMV kid with a mix of A's and B's and an SAT over 1300 can get in there.

Emory will pass Cornell eventually. DC will explode

63 St Johns

63 Reed


Expected for schools that refused to play USNews ranking game for years. Had they played the game, they would be in T20s.

Anonymous wrote:No women's schools?

They are in the US News National Liberal Arts College ranking
1 Williams
2 Amherst
3 Swarthmore
4 Wellesley
4 Pomona
6 Bowdoin
6 Claremont Mck
6 USNA
9 Middlebury
9 Carleton
9 Washing&Lee
9 Hamilton
13 Vassar
13 Grinnell
15 Davidson
15 Smith
15 Haverford
15 Colby
15 USMA
20 Colgate
20 Wesleyan
22 Bates
22 U Richmond
22 Barnard
25 Harvey Mudd
25 Colorado College
27 McAlaster
28 Soka
28 Bryn Mawr
28 Kenyon
28 Scripps
28 USFA
33 Berea
34 Mt Holyoke
34 Bucknell
36 Oberlin
36 Holy Cross
36 Pitzer
36 Skidmore
40 Lafayette
40 Occidental
40 Thomas Aquinas
43 Franklin&Marsh
44 Union
44 Denison
44 Trinity
47 Whitman
47 Sewanee
47 Dickinson
47 DePauw
51 Conn College
52 Centre
52 Furman
54 Gettysburg
54 Rhodes
54 Spelman
54 Bard
54 St Lawrence
54 Wabash
54 Hillsdale
61 Agnes Scot
61 Wheaton (IL)
63 Lawrence
63 St Johns
63 Sarah Lawrence
63 Reed
67 St Olaf
67 Kalamazoo
69 College of Wooster
69 Wofford
69 VMI
72 Hobard&WillmSmith
72 Knox
72 Willamette
72 Muhlenburg
76 Lewis&Clark
76 Cornell Coll
76 St Johns
76 Bennington
80 Beloit
80 Illinois Wesleyan
80 Allegheny
80 St Mary's MD

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Anonymous wrote:Harvey Mudd College
Claremont, CA

#25
in
National Liberal Arts Colleges (tie)


Crazy.

Crazy how?

By any standard, Mudd comes out on top or near the top of any engineering school evaluation.

I have no skin in the game, did not go there, and have no kids there. But for aspiring engineers, I'd rank it somewhere near MIT.

+1 Mudd is the college with no grad school equivalent to MIT. Hard to get into. Infamously hard to survive. And I’ve never had a kid interested in it either. But, it’s impressive.

But does it have colonial roots? /s

I think the 5 consortium is relatively new. It's not like Harvard, Yale, Columbia that go back to the colonial period with their baggage in the age of BLM.

No women's schools?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvey Mudd College
Claremont, CA

#25
in
National Liberal Arts Colleges (tie)


Crazy.

Crazy how?

By any standard, Mudd comes out on top or near the top of any engineering school evaluation.

I have no skin in the game, did not go there, and have no kids there. But for aspiring engineers, I'd rank it somewhere near MIT.

+1 Mudd is the college with no grad school equivalent to MIT. Hard to get into. Infamously hard to survive. And I’ve never had a kid interested in it either. But, it’s impressive.

But does it have colonial roots? /s