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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. Now I fear that I overstated the problem. (I get the irony in a post about articulation.) Based on my research it sounds like a bilateral lisp and the mush mouth is more like the extra saliva that appears when she speaks quickly. It mostly makes her speech sound more juvenile than it might otherwise sound. It's certainly not crippling. I think my guilt at assuming it would go away went into overdrive.

If it were a really severe problem for her age, the school would have done ST therapy for free and/or your ped would have caught it and insurance would have paid.

However there is a gap between what is noticeable and what gets caught and paid for by insurance or the school district.

I think you just at say kids have quirks if speaking and some are outgrown and some are not, and now that her braces are off it seems she hasn't outgrown it so you want to get it checked out.

Hahahahahahaha

Thanks for starting my day with a belly laugh. Do you really believe that the school system and pediatricians are set up like this? What planet/state/city do you live in?

Our public school has a full time speech therapist and teachers refer kids for an evaluation and parents can request evaluations. I know many kids who got speech therapy at school. Likewise pediatricians catch speech issues (they are part of the annual well child visit) and send kids to speech therapy that insurance can pay for. These things are true and I am sorry if you have had a bad experience with schools and pediatricians. I have friends and family members whose kids were treated at school and treated through early intervention and treated under their health insurance.

I was stating those things because op felt people were thinking her dd's speech issues are more severe, so I was pointing out that they clearly aren't too severe or her dd would have been flagged by other people, but hat doesn't mean she should not post for advice in the children with special needs forum.

There is a wide range of posters on that board with a lot of experiences. I think op thinks it only kids in wheel chairs or with intellectual disabilities.

+1 to the Belly Laugh! My kids are in HS now but have always gone to an FCPS school that had an SLP - did you know that most SLPs are assigned to more than one school? Two of my kids have IEPs and we have had to battle nearly every single year to bet anything more than de minimis speech services. The bar is: Is the child intelligble and is there any educational impact? Even when you can say 'yes' to both and have well documented needs, you still may be SOL. I couldn't even get services through the school for my typical DD who had a lisp well into 4th grade. Insurance wouldn't cover it either. It was all out of pocket.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. Now I fear that I overstated the problem. (I get the irony in a post about articulation.) Based on my research it sounds like a bilateral lisp and the mush mouth is more like the extra saliva that appears when she speaks quickly. It mostly makes her speech sound more juvenile than it might otherwise sound. It's certainly not crippling. I think my guilt at assuming it would go away went into overdrive.

If it were a really severe problem for her age, the school would have done ST therapy for free and/or your ped would have caught it and insurance would have paid.

However there is a gap between what is noticeable and what gets caught and paid for by insurance or the school district.

I think you just at say kids have quirks if speaking and some are outgrown and some are not, and now that her braces are off it seems she hasn't outgrown it so you want to get it checked out.

Hahahahahahaha

Thanks for starting my day with a belly laugh. Do you really believe that the school system and pediatricians are set up like this? What planet/state/city do you live in?

Our public school has a full time speech therapist and teachers refer kids for an evaluation and parents can request evaluations. I know many kids who got speech therapy at school. Likewise pediatricians catch speech issues (they are part of the annual well child visit) and send kids to speech therapy that insurance can pay for. These things are true and I am sorry if you have had a bad experience with schools and pediatricians. I have friends and family members whose kids were treated at school and treated through early intervention and treated under their health insurance.

I was stating those things because op felt people were thinking her dd's speech issues are more severe, so I was pointing out that they clearly aren't too severe or her dd would have been flagged by other people, but hat doesn't mean she should not post for advice in the children with special needs forum.

There is a wide range of posters on that board with a lot of experiences. I think op thinks it only kids in wheel chairs or with intellectual disabilities.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. Now I fear that I overstated the problem. (I get the irony in a post about articulation.) Based on my research it sounds like a bilateral lisp and the mush mouth is more like the extra saliva that appears when she speaks quickly. It mostly makes her speech sound more juvenile than it might otherwise sound. It's certainly not crippling. I think my guilt at assuming it would go away went into overdrive.

If it were a really severe problem for her age, the school would have done ST therapy for free and/or your ped would have caught it and insurance would have paid.

However there is a gap between what is noticeable and what gets caught and paid for by insurance or the school district.

I think you just at say kids have quirks if speaking and some are outgrown and some are not, and now that her braces are off it seems she hasn't outgrown it so you want to get it checked out.

Hahahahahahaha

Thanks for starting my day with a belly laugh. Do you really believe that the school system and pediatricians are set up like this? What planet/state/city do you live in?

Our public school has a full time speech therapist and teachers refer kids for an evaluation and parents can request evaluations. I know many kids who got speech therapy at school. Likewise pediatricians catch speech issues (they are part of the annual well child visit) and send kids to speech therapy that insurance can pay for. These things are true and I am sorry if you have had a bad experience with schools and pediatricians. I have friends and family members whose kids were treated at school and treated through early intervention and treated under their health insurance.

I was stating those things because op felt people were thinking her dd's speech issues are more severe, so I was pointing out that they clearly aren't too severe or her dd would have been flagged by other people, but hat doesn't mean she should not post for advice in the children with special needs forum.

There is a wide range of posters on that board with a lot of experiences. I think op thinks it only kids in wheel chairs or with intellectual disabilities.

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the PPs. Can you ask Jeff to move this to the children with special needs forum? Regardless of your current assessment of the severity of the situation many of the parents in the special needs forum have become experts in advocating through the insurance, and medical maze. They may be your best guides.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. Now I fear that I overstated the problem. (I get the irony in a post about articulation.) Based on my research it sounds like a bilateral lisp and the mush mouth is more like the extra saliva that appears when she speaks quickly. It mostly makes her speech sound more juvenile than it might otherwise sound. It's certainly not crippling. I think my guilt at assuming it would go away went into overdrive.

If it were a really severe problem for her age, the school would have done ST therapy for free and/or your ped would have caught it and insurance would have paid.

However there is a gap between what is noticeable and what gets caught and paid for by insurance or the school district.

I think you just at say kids have quirks if speaking and some are outgrown and some are not, and now that her braces are off it seems she hasn't outgrown it so you want to get it checked out.

Hahahahahahaha

Thanks for starting my day with a belly laugh. Do you really believe that the school system and pediatricians are set up like this? What planet/state/city do you live in?

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. Now I fear that I overstated the problem. (I get the irony in a post about articulation.) Based on my research it sounds like a bilateral lisp and the mush mouth is more like the extra saliva that appears when she speaks quickly. It mostly makes her speech sound more juvenile than it might otherwise sound. It's certainly not crippling. I think my guilt at assuming it would go away went into overdrive.

If it were a really severe problem for her age, the school would have done ST therapy for free and/or your ped would have caught it and insurance would have paid.

However there is a gap between what is noticeable and what gets caught and paid for by insurance or the school district.

I think you just at say kids have quirks if speaking and some are outgrown and some are not, and now that her braces are off it seems she hasn't outgrown it so you want to get it checked out.

Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. Now I fear that I overstated the problem. (I get the irony in a post about articulation.) Based on my research it sounds like a bilateral lisp and the mush mouth is more like the extra saliva that appears when she speaks quickly. It mostly makes her speech sound more juvenile than it might otherwise sound. It's certainly not crippling. I think my guilt at assuming it would go away went into overdrive.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. Now I fear that I overstated the problem. (I get the irony in a post about articulation.) Based on my research it sounds like a bilateral lisp and the mush mouth is more like the extra saliva that appears when she speaks quickly. It mostly makes her speech sound more juvenile than it might otherwise sound. It's certainly not crippling. I think my guilt at assuming it would go away went into overdrive.

Something doesn’t have to be crippling for a person to internalize complicated feelings about why they didn’t receive help on their timeline. My younger sister didn’t tell my parents until she was an adult that she deeply struggled with self-image over her teeth, and always wondered why they had paid for braces for me and not for her. My teeth needed severe correction- hers only would have been aesthetic. They were genuinely surprised as they recalled how much she made fun of me when I had braces. When she mentioned it they realized how she felt neglected, which was never their intent.
It’s okay to downplay the lisp, but please don’t downplay the potential that your inaction may already be hurting her. It’s worth it to check in with her sooner rather than later.