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Anonymous wrote:They have standards and good self esteem.

Exactly. Women with good self esteem just don't put up with trash from men. They just don't.

This. Also. if you have the means and temperament to walk away from a marriage no guy will cheat on you. Men don't want a broken marriage due to their cheating or having a side piece.

Anonymous wrote:They have standards and good self esteem.

Exactly. Women with good self esteem just dont put up with trash from men. They just dont.

Because men love b!+ches, as the saying goes.

I would know, I'm very direct and dominant with my men- never had a complaint, ever!

Anonymous wrote:Demanding women know how to pick em

This. Often high maintenance women too. Great at “never letting them see you sweat,” then turn around to their moms or bestie on the phone every other day to vent. Kind of fake as well, hard to get to know. They are very busy with their social calendar and being the Cool Mom. Husband tags along, does his part- was vetted before marriage very well. Household is a well oiled machine.

I dont have any money but my husband and I are devoted to each other. I follow the Laura Doyle Empowered Wife principles. I guess i won the lottery. But I think any wife who really tries thenempowered wife with a normal husband (not abusive addict or cheating) will be happy

My mother in law is easygoing on the surface and tons of built up resentment. I'm cranky occasionally but never hold a grudge. We have a happy marriage.

Anonymous wrote:I think it's great that some women have very assertive personalities and find partners who are loving and devoted.

But I am uncomfortable with the implication that a woman must earn love or loyalty by demanding it. I agree with having high standards, but I don't think only women who are very assertive deserve loving, devoted partners.

If, as a man, you are only loyal and loving if someone keeps you on a tight leash, then you aren't actually loving or loyal at all.

And if, as a woman, you want a man who loves and adores you without you having to make him, you aren't a "doormat". You're normal, and you do deserve that. Everyone does.

I feel like this conversation is starting with the premise that men won't be loving/loyal by nature, and that women don't deserve love/loyalty unless they can force someone to be that way. That's a weird and very misogynist starting point.

I took it as Karen is such a b***, how did she get such a great husband?

I think it's great that some women have very assertive personalities and find partners who are loving and devoted.

But I am uncomfortable with the implication that a woman must earn love or loyalty by demanding it. I agree with having high standards, but I don't think only women who are very assertive deserve loving, devoted partners.

If, as a man, you are only loyal and loving if someone keeps you on a tight leash, then you aren't actually loving or loyal at all.

And if, as a woman, you want a man who loves and adores you without you having to make him, you aren't a "doormat". You're normal, and you do deserve that. Everyone does.

I feel like this conversation is starting with the premise that men won't be loving/loyal by nature, and that women don't deserve love/loyalty unless they can force someone to be that way. That's a weird and very misogynist starting point.

Hmm. I don't think I'm demanding. DH describes me as easygoing, laid-back, "nothing ever seems to bother you!". I'm not super picky about much of anything, I go with the flow. Not very competitive at all.

He's dedicated, loving, supportive, and pulls more than equal weight at home. We've talked about disaster scenarios with DL and he's the first to say that he'll quit his job to stay home before I quit mine. I have no concerns about his faithfulness whatsoever.

I guess I just got lucky? I'd like to think my amazing personality attracted a similarly awesome person .

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Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this. Also, women with trust funds have husbands who are so in love. I'm sure those same women just think that they are #blessed. Money makes the world go round.

+1

Yup. Woman has rich parents, so the husband kisses the wife's butt.

I know plenty of trust fund babies with garbage husbands.

So do I. I also know plenty of "demanding" women with garbage husbands.

Yup. There are garbage husbands married to every kind of woman. Think about all the rich and famous actresses and singers who marry nobodies and still get cheated on.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this. Also, women with trust funds have husbands who are so in love. I'm sure those same women just think that they are #blessed. Money makes the world go round.

+1

Yup. Woman has rich parents, so the husband kisses the wife's butt.

I know plenty of trust fund babies with garbage husbands.

So do I. I also know plenty of "demanding" women with garbage husbands.

So it's a woman's fault if she gets cheated on or abused?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've noticed this. Also, women with trust funds have husbands who are so in love. I'm sure those same women just think that they are #blessed. Money makes the world go round.

+1

Yup. Woman has rich parents, so the husband kisses the wife's butt.

I know plenty of trust fund babies with garbage husbands.

The demanding women are just babysitters. They monitor and schedule everything for their husbands so he doesn't have the chance to cheat.

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Anonymous wrote:DH here: we get worn down. It's Stockholm Syndrome, where we have internalized the standards of our oppressors.

I actually laughed out loud at this one. Sounds like a tiny part of you has resisted complete subjugation.

+1

This.