Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 20:13     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
DCPS does not use Google hangouts. It will all be on canvas and Office 365. If you think your work computer isn't good enough, just ask for a device from the school. Don't just complain and be afraid to ask for help. It is a pandemic. We asked for 2 devices.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 18:51     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....


You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.

This is so sad.
The one time in life when you’ll actually be able to be active in your child’s education & you are showing them off.
I’m always unclear what jobs the DCUM types have where they are actively in meetings or calls all day...
I’m married to a lawyer & was a consultant myself, & now run my own business. Still can’t relate to the on all day jobs of this crew. Guess you all are all just big deals.


?

Some of us have core hours. Which just happen to be during the school day. Which makes it impossible to both do your job and be available to direct the education of a young elementary student. While I’m not actively in calls or meetings all day, I am expected this o be available during my work hours when my manager calls me. Blowing him off so I can log my 6 year old into yet another distance learning session is not acceptable. Plus, I’m actually expected to produce a work product. When the distance school day is all day long with 5-10 minute breaks plus a lunch period, it looks like I would need to facilitate logging into sessions every 15-45 minutes throughout the day. I don’t generally work in 15-45 minute increments, but maybe you do?


How hard is it to help a first grader log into DL?

You walk over, while on the phone and point to the link you made during non core hours. Or if you're at your computer, you drop the link into a hangout when you have a moment, then hit return on your phone and it pops on his screen at the right moment.

How does that involve blowing your boss off? It's less time than walking to the sink to fill your water glass.


well for starters I can’t access Google hangout from my work computer. And a lot of us have kids that won’t just click the link. Plus my job involves stretches of intense focus - research and writing. multitasking at all is a big problem for my focus.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 18:36     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....


You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.


I am guessing you don't have twins entering Kindergarten.




Frankly, I feel like many schools are sending a big FU to working families.


No, that’s just your insanely narcissistic spoiled point of view. It has nothing to do with working families or families with twins or families with young kids or you. It’s a pandemic and the safest choices are being made. Those choices create unfortunate circumstances that impact different families differently. But it’s not a decision targeting any specific person or group. If you think it is, learn that the world does not revolve around you.


This response is perfect. Wish I had the guts to say it to some of the moms who think that school is deliberately trying to screw them over . And I'm pretty sure some that are whining to me IRL are all over this thread.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 18:24     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....


You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.


I am guessing you don't have twins entering Kindergarten.


Frankly, I feel like many schools are sending a big FU to working families.


No, that’s just your insanely narcissistic spoiled point of view. It has nothing to do with working families or families with twins or families with young kids or you. It’s a pandemic and the safest choices are being made. Those choices create unfortunate circumstances that impact different families differently. But it’s not a decision targeting any specific person or group. If you think it is, learn that the world does not revolve around you.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 18:05     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....


You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.

This is so sad.
The one time in life when you’ll actually be able to be active in your child’s education & you are showing them off.
I’m always unclear what jobs the DCUM types have where they are actively in meetings or calls all day...
I’m married to a lawyer & was a consultant myself, & now run my own business. Still can’t relate to the on all day jobs of this crew. Guess you all are all just big deals.


Thanks not it. You simply have no idea what the average working America faces on a daily base. You had a big deal job where you got flexibility and freedom. Many people -- my household included -- have jobs like working intake for insurance company calls and claims. Yes, it can happen from home but yes it is monitored constantly, the number of calls taken and resolved and in how long all recorded, etc. When my 1st graders needs work sheet A and can't find it, when he has to log on to small group at 9:30, 11:30 and 2:30, when there are all sorts of videos he needs to watch in-between, life feels very hairy and very scare. I am not alone. And schools don't get it.



I’m a teacher and I completely agree. I have two kids and it’s hard and frustrating that people think you can log on and off constantly. Some principals and teachers don’t have small children (or haven’t had them in a long time) and don’t understand. It is super frustrating. I tell my parents just do the best you can. I will record all lesson and just try to get the assignments in by Sunday. It’s hard and people who don’t get it, don’t get it.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 17:53     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....


You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.

This is so sad.
The one time in life when you’ll actually be able to be active in your child’s education & you are showing them off.
I’m always unclear what jobs the DCUM types have where they are actively in meetings or calls all day...
I’m married to a lawyer & was a consultant myself, & now run my own business. Still can’t relate to the on all day jobs of this crew. Guess you all are all just big deals.


?

Some of us have core hours. Which just happen to be during the school day. Which makes it impossible to both do your job and be available to direct the education of a young elementary student. While I’m not actively in calls or meetings all day, I am expected this o be available during my work hours when my manager calls me. Blowing him off so I can log my 6 year old into yet another distance learning session is not acceptable. Plus, I’m actually expected to produce a work product. When the distance school day is all day long with 5-10 minute breaks plus a lunch period, it looks like I would need to facilitate logging into sessions every 15-45 minutes throughout the day. I don’t generally work in 15-45 minute increments, but maybe you do?


How hard is it to help a first grader log into DL?

You walk over, while on the phone and point to the link you made during non core hours. Or if you're at your computer, you drop the link into a hangout when you have a moment, then hit return on your phone and it pops on his screen at the right moment.

How does that involve blowing your boss off? It's less time than walking to the sink to fill your water glass.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 17:50     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....


You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.

This is so sad.
The one time in life when you’ll actually be able to be active in your child’s education & you are showing them off.
I’m always unclear what jobs the DCUM types have where they are actively in meetings or calls all day...
I’m married to a lawyer & was a consultant myself, & now run my own business. Still can’t relate to the on all day jobs of this crew. Guess you all are all just big deals.


Thanks not it. You simply have no idea what the average working America faces on a daily base. You had a big deal job where you got flexibility and freedom. Many people -- my household included -- have jobs like working intake for insurance company calls and claims. Yes, it can happen from home but yes it is monitored constantly, the number of calls taken and resolved and in how long all recorded, etc. When my 1st graders needs work sheet A and can't find it, when he has to log on to small group at 9:30, 11:30 and 2:30, when there are all sorts of videos he needs to watch in-between, life feels very hairy and very scare. I am not alone. And schools don't get it.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 17:45     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We got sour elementary schedule; 8:30-3:15!!! How are parents supposed to work and support the kids? I was hoping it would be a structured half day and less structured other half to make this challenging situation a little easier.....


You are not - the kids are supposed to learn to be independent and take responsibility for their learning.
I am helping facilitate distance learning. I am setting alarms, setting up a space for them, book marking sites with saved passwords.
I will make lunch and snack and pack it in their lunchbox like I did when they were in person.


I am guessing you don't have twins entering Kindergarten.

Frankly, I feel like many schools are sending a big FU to working families.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 16:59     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:Just like I thought, you can't make some people happy. Calls are too long. Calls are too short. My child needs this. My child needs that. I want more one on one time for my child. There weren't enough meetings in spring. Ther is too much screen time. I wish you could just take a deep breath and relax. Kids are very flexible. Encourage them. Don't add stress and pressure. It seems like the fall will be better than the spring. Let's be optimistic and head into DL with a positive attitude.


I agree. Being in a pandemic totally stinks for everyone. We'll all just do our best.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 14:48     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
I don’t get why parents are upset about school being all day.

No way an elementary kid will sit for 2.5 hours straight. I want it to be broken up into pieces.

If I have work I’m going to pay attention but mute. My job already knows my circumstance.

Employers need to be understanding, I suggest you gather parents and let the employer know. That is what we did at my company when they made no mention. They quickly sent out a staff email to employees asking if they needed reasonable accommodations.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 14:40     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:Just like I thought, you can't make some people happy. Calls are too long. Calls are too short. My child needs this. My child needs that. I want more one on one time for my child. There weren't enough meetings in spring. Ther is too much screen time. I wish you could just take a deep breath and relax. Kids are very flexible. Encourage them. Don't add stress and pressure. It seems like the fall will be better than the spring. Let's be optimistic and head into DL with a positive attitude.


Having a pandemic is no one’s choice. Having DL is the best of a handful of poor options.

Having full-day DL is for the parents, not the kids. It will work quite poorly for some kids (eg, ADHD not a good fit for DL).

I can have a sunny attitude, but it does not change that reality. I have to manage my family’s sanity in a circumstance where we are required to participate in something exceedingly sub-par. We may have to switch to homeschooling, which creates a whole other slew of problems.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 13:34     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Just like I thought, you can't make some people happy. Calls are too long. Calls are too short. My child needs this. My child needs that. I want more one on one time for my child. There weren't enough meetings in spring. Ther is too much screen time. I wish you could just take a deep breath and relax. Kids are very flexible. Encourage them. Don't add stress and pressure. It seems like the fall will be better than the spring. Let's be optimistic and head into DL with a positive attitude.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 13:07     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
This thread is full of white women who think every inconvenient situation MUST have a fix. Nothing is ever just hard or unfortunate.
It’s a freaking pandemic. You’ve gotta stop looking for wins.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 12:56     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:How is having your kid occupied all day a problem? If done by noon, then you have a whole lot more supervision to provide.


I think that is the logic behind this approach. But, like OP, I hate it because I think my kid will hate it. It’s one thing to coerce my DS to participate in — to him — painfully tedious online sessions. But him logging on and off through the day all the way til 3? Unlikely to happen.

I don’t have to provide him supervision for his free time — he’ll just read. But I do have to provide supervision for Zoom, which he finds intolerable.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 12:55     Subject: Schedule - full day!?!?
Anonymous wrote:How is having your kid occupied all day a problem? If done by noon, then you have a whole lot more supervision to provide.


Depending on the age, they aren’t able to stay occupied independently even with live instruction. My 6 year old wouldn’t even stay seated for DL unless I was right there next to him. Then they have tech problems and need help logging into various programs. If they finish in the morning then they can play on their own without as much parent involvement, or possibly go to afternoon child care.