Anonymous wrote:I am a little confused about the 7 people in the dorm room part of this story.

In my kid's school, you are not allowed to have guests/friends in your room.

Some schools have 4 kid suites. But the “not allowed” part isn’t being enforced at some schools. The rule you mentioned is a rule at every school.

Anonymous wrote:I am a little confused about the 7 people in the dorm room part of this story.

In my kid's school, you are not allowed to have guests/friends in your room.

Same with my DC's small college. No one in rooms but the residents of that room.
The university in the example seems very unprepared. And the students themselves might have been violating a rule by having seven in the room.

I am a little confused about the 7 people in the dorm room part of this story.

In my kid's school, you are not allowed to have guests/friends in your room.

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Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

The college was unprepared but the student sounds clueless and whiny.

This is the risk every single student is taking when they move into a dorm or apartment right now. They might find themselves far away from home, gravely ill, and alone in a circumstance outside of their control.

Everyone has the choice, but the students want that first picture. They want the decorated dorm. They want new friends. They don’t want to miss out. Parents want them to be happy, so they pack the car and move them in.

I don’t know if people are blissfully unaware, in complete denial, or just plain dumb, but the situation in this article is already happening to thousandS of college students at this very moment, and will happen to tens of thousands more.

And yet today, they are still packing the cars, convinced that their college has a safer plan.

And this poor girl, who handled it better than I would have as an 18-year-old, may have exposed dozens of people to the virus, including many beyond the university community. When she decided she couldn't stay in the quarantine housing and couldn't go back home, she took a bus and checked in to a hotel. (I understand that she was doing the best she could.). Who knows who else was on the bus or in the hotel, and interacted with her in either place. This is why the dummies who say "college kids will be fine if the get it" just don't understand: when college students get it, they will almost certainly spread it to people who aren't college students, and who aren't even part of the college community. This is how you get rising levels of community spread.

So irresponsible -- not on her part, but on the part of the university for opening up without an adequate plan.

NP. +1 to PP just above. So many wrong steps:

--Clearly there was no instruction for every student to arrive with a pre-packed "go bag" to grab for a move to quarantine. So the girl has to pack stuff frantically.
--The RA should have had plenty of training and should have known exactly the steps to take with a positive student. But didn't, so clearly the college never trained the RAs.
--The college lacked designated health services staff to turn up at the girl's dorm and escort her to the campus quarantine room. (My DC's college does this.)
--The college had not even adequately cleaned the quarantine rooms. If the mattress was gritty with dust as described that's not acceptable.
--The parents appear not to have talked to the girl before she left for college about a family plan in case of a positive test at school. The girl didn't know NOT to get on a bus and expose many strangers to her very active case of symptoms? I do think she was feverish and not thinking straight so there's less blame on her for her poor choice at that point. But she could so easily have collapsed while on a multi-hour bus ride and ended up in a hospital who knows where. I can only hope someone thought to contact health authorities so those in the bus and working at that hotel etc. will get tested and quarantine. Wow.
--At a smaller college it's likely she might have been stopped from coming home because someone would have known where she was at all times.

The college let her go HOURS after the positive result, sitting in her room with her roommate there. Ridiculous. There are posts on other threads mocking the ideas of "go bags" and (decent) quarantine rooms on campuses. This incident shows why those things are needed, as is extensive training for RAs and real oversight of students who test positive.

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Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

The college was unprepared but the student sounds clueless and whiny.

This is the risk every single student is taking when they move into a dorm or apartment right now. They might find themselves far away from home, gravely ill, and alone in a circumstance outside of their control.

Everyone has the choice, but the students want that first picture. They want the decorated dorm. They want new friends. They don’t want to miss out. Parents want them to be happy, so they pack the car and move them in.

I don’t know if people are blissfully unaware, in complete denial, or just plain dumb, but the situation in this article is already happening to thousandS of college students at this very moment, and will happen to tens of thousands more.

And yet today, they are still packing the cars, convinced that their college has a safer plan.

And this poor girl, who handled it better than I would have as an 18-year-old, may have exposed dozens of people to the virus, including many beyond the university community. When she decided she couldn't stay in the quarantine housing and couldn't go back home, she took a bus and checked in to a hotel. (I understand that she was doing the best she could.). Who knows who else was on the bus or in the hotel, and interacted with her in either place. This is why the dummies who say "college kids will be fine if the get it" just don't understand: when college students get it, they will almost certainly spread it to people who aren't college students, and who aren't even part of the college community. This is how you get rising levels of community spread.

So irresponsible -- not on her part, but on the part of the university for opening up without an adequate plan.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article245146945.html

University of Miami is probably next. Would be surprised if they aren’t virtual by next week.

U-GA will be there before Miami. Already over 300 cases amongst the students.

I really don't see how the ACC or SEC thinks it can play football.

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Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

The college was unprepared but the student sounds clueless and whiny.

I’m not seeing clueless or whiny here. She followed all the rules, got herself packed and to her new spot, didn’t ask mom to intervene, and decided when enough was enough. For 18 years old newly away from home that’s not bad.

She got on a BUS. when she knew she had Covid. Inexcusable.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kold.com/2020/08/21/uarizona-confirms-around-covid-cases/%3foutputType=amp

Arizona is in denial... bet they’ll be virtual in a week or so..

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article245146945.html

University of Miami is probably next. Would be surprised if they aren’t virtual by next week.

Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

This qualifies as news outside of a student newspaper? The basic issue is that the University hadn't cleaned the quarantine room and didn't help her move her crap. Everyone should have known that if you test positive, you will spend two weeks in quarantine. Life can be unfair. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

The college was unprepared but the student sounds clueless and whiny.

I’m not seeing clueless or whiny here. She followed all the rules, got herself packed and to her new spot, didn’t ask mom to intervene, and decided when enough was enough. For 18 years old newly away from home that’s not bad.

+1 She sounds super mature. It's bad that she had to get on a bus - but the school really should have been a lot more helpful. I can't believe they made her walk to her new dorm alone and sick. (The plan where I work, is to have the university police drive the student and walk with them wherever they need to go, since the police already have cars with plexi barriers. I think this is good so the kid won't be alone and having to haul their own stuff around.)

I do feel for this student as a mom. But we (meaning me included) raised our children in a entitled, protective society. My dad was drafted to Vietnam when he was 18- one month out of high school. Currently, many 18 year olds are serving our country in war zones.

I blame us, the parents. We gave them all trophies, complained to every teacher who didn't give our kid an A, and are wealthy enough to work from home and then post comments all over the Post and DCUM about how everyone should stay at home. We are spoiled and really did raise snowflakes. We have used modern medicine to increase life expectancy and quality of life. How can we expect everything to continue when history shows us bad times always come up.

In the big scheme of things, this virus is not that bad. Right now, my best friend is dealing with her son's recent diagnosis of Leukemia and I just lost a 53 year old coworker to pancreatic cancer. We have destruction in Iowa but if it is not COVID, it almost seems like no one cares. When I tell friends about my coworker, first question is 'Did she die of COVID?' When I say 'no', conversation is over. 'Thank goodness it was cancer and not COVID.' One day we may get a disease that really kills. What if Ebola was this contagious? Obviously, death is sad. But no matter what everyone says, this virus is not that deadly.

Read the data and not the news. Virus is coming back in Europe. It will spread and all we can do right now is slow the spread. I find it ridiculous that people think we can just wait this out until the vaccine. What vaccine? We are so spoiled that we assume one will be found. Anyone with a science degree can tell you that is not a guarantee. People in nursing homes, children, and all of us with anxiety/depression need to get out and try to live. I look forward to 5 yrs when we know more and figure out what we did right and the stupid stuff we did (like those who wiped their mail down before opening it at the beginning.)

- signed a mom of college age kid who works from home and wears masks when outside of home.

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Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

The college was unprepared but the student sounds clueless and whiny.

This is the risk every single student is taking when they move into a dorm or apartment right now. They might find themselves far away from home, gravely ill, and alone in a circumstance outside of their control.

Everyone has the choice, but the students want that first picture. They want the decorated dorm. They want new friends. They don’t want to miss out. Parents want them to be happy, so they pack the car and move them in.

I don’t know if people are blissfully unaware, in complete denial, or just plain dumb, but the situation in this article is already happening to thousandS of college students at this very moment, and will happen to tens of thousands more.

And yet today, they are still packing the cars, convinced that their college has a safer plan.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

The college was unprepared but the student sounds clueless and whiny.

I’m not seeing clueless or whiny here. She followed all the rules, got herself packed and to her new spot, didn’t ask mom to intervene, and decided when enough was enough. For 18 years old newly away from home that’s not bad.

Anonymous wrote:This is horrible from the University of Iowa.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/university-of-iowa/2020/08/21/university-iowa-student-tests-positive-coronavirus/5621379002/

The college was unprepared but the student sounds clueless and whiny.