Anonymous
08/18/2020 11:00
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Too early to tell. The majority of kids are following safety procedures and there are several online classes. There are clusters from two large parties held off campus but there are also kids who didn’t attend said parties who tested positive (6 out of 8 kids in a house positive, for example). All along they said positives were to be expected, and if you add in an estimated 10% false negative from the pre-arrival tests, this is unsurprising. Asymptomatic folks are always a concern but people who do the right thing — mask up and distancing — lessen the risk.
There is a lot of unnecessary drama and angst among some parents who are spinning up their kids. There are also kids wanting tests who have zero symptoms. Surveillance testing began this week:
https://here.nd.edu/news/message-on-reopening-the-university-expanding-testing-daily-health-check-updates/?fbclid=IwAR3hrK0v9GAKB33ap3L45he4Gyu8ufSpbuxw8M0UvC61ceECdnkzloV3iX4
How the next 3-4 weeks unfold will determine how they proceed, I’m guessing. I hope they give it another six weeks. A lot of first years seem to be struggling with the limitations in the residence halls, but it’s early days.
+1
Anonymous
08/18/2020 10:53
Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No - did we give up after taking a few casualties at Omaha Beach? We have to be willing to sacrifice to open our country back up and support the president.
Sarcasm?
Not sure what you mean. I think you should shift your focus from the number of kids getting sick to the much larger number of kids not getting sick. It could be much worse, so that means it's much better.
It could be much better, so that means it's much worse.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 10:49
Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No - did we give up after taking a few casualties at Omaha Beach? We have to be willing to sacrifice to open our country back up and support the president.
What does supporting the president have to do with this?
Pp is pot-stirring. Just ignore.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 10:47
Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:No - did we give up after taking a few casualties at Omaha Beach? We have to be willing to sacrifice to open our country back up and support the president.
What does supporting the president have to do with this?
Anonymous
08/18/2020 10:30
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Too early to tell. The majority of kids are following safety procedures and there are several online classes. There are clusters from two large parties held off campus but there are also kids who didn’t attend said parties who tested positive (6 out of 8 kids in a house positive, for example). All along they said positives were to be expected, and if you add in an estimated 10% false negative from the pre-arrival tests, this is unsurprising. Asymptomatic folks are always a concern but people who do the right thing — mask up and distancing — lessen the risk.
There is a lot of unnecessary drama and angst among some parents who are spinning up their kids. There are also kids wanting tests who have zero symptoms. Surveillance testing began this week:
https://here.nd.edu/news/message-on-reopening-the-university-expanding-testing-daily-health-check-updates/?fbclid=IwAR3hrK0v9GAKB33ap3L45he4Gyu8ufSpbuxw8M0UvC61ceECdnkzloV3iX4
How the next 3-4 weeks unfold will determine how they proceed, I’m guessing. I hope they give it another six weeks. A lot of first years seem to be struggling with the limitations in the residence halls, but it’s early days.
There is a lot of unnecessary drama and angst among some parents who are spinning up their kids. There are also kids wanting tests who have zero symptoms. Surveillance testing began this week:
https://here.nd.edu/news/message-on-reopening-the-university-expanding-testing-daily-health-check-updates/?fbclid=IwAR3hrK0v9GAKB33ap3L45he4Gyu8ufSpbuxw8M0UvC61ceECdnkzloV3iX4
How the next 3-4 weeks unfold will determine how they proceed, I’m guessing. I hope they give it another six weeks. A lot of first years seem to be struggling with the limitations in the residence halls, but it’s early days.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 10:28
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
My daughters school is doing weekly testing for everyone on campus mandatory. To enter campus you need a test. If you live off campus in the college town with a permanent or mailing address need a weekly test. Leave campus come back need a test.
Guess what my daughter and all her roommates are not subject any testing. Why? They live off campus and in 2020 their mailing address is still back home. Heck my daughter gets a piece of mail once every few weeks. Nothing urgent.
Pretty much I described 90 percent off campus students.
Guess what my daughter and all her roommates are not subject any testing. Why? They live off campus and in 2020 their mailing address is still back home. Heck my daughter gets a piece of mail once every few weeks. Nothing urgent.
Pretty much I described 90 percent off campus students.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 09:59
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:http://wsbt.com/news/operation-education/notre-dame-students-share-coronavirus-testing-struggles
I saw this article on reddit. What a disaster.
Wow.
This matches what is being said on Twitter and on campus. They are in over their heads.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 09:36
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
http://wsbt.com/news/operation-education/notre-dame-students-share-coronavirus-testing-struggles
I saw this article on reddit. What a disaster.
I saw this article on reddit. What a disaster.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 09:32
Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Do you think ND is going to switch to online and offer the option for students to go home (like UNC did)? Or will they try to make the in-person learning work out?
Anonymous
08/18/2020 09:29
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:RPI is testing all students who have access to the campus regardless of if they live on or off campus. 2x a week. Same for staff.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I admire them for trying, but it seems not everyone who wants to be tested can get tested, including kids with known contact with positive cases. Lack of testing access could be their downfall.
Colleges don’t want to test widely and they especially don’t want to be responsible for off campus students so they don’t have to count them in their numbers.
That is great. Wish everyone were doing that. And I hope RPI is going to isolate off-campus students who test positive in on-campus housing.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 09:28
Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:No - did we give up after taking a few casualties at Omaha Beach? We have to be willing to sacrifice to open our country back up and support the president.
Are you for real?
The alternative here is taking a Zoom class, not Hitler taking over the world.
Stop watching Fox.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 09:27
Subject: Re:Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No - did we give up after taking a few casualties at Omaha Beach? We have to be willing to sacrifice to open our country back up and support the president.
Sarcasm?
Not sure what you mean. I think you should shift your focus from the number of kids getting sick to the much larger number of kids not getting sick. It could be much worse, so that means it's much better.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 08:29
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:ND isn’t screwing up and students aren’t either — our country has screwed up. There should endless amounts of tests now. Blaming people because we can’t do surveillance testing is insane.
The only campus that I have seen open with enough rapid testing is UIUC which is using a rapid saliva test they make and analyze on campus. If colleges are not testing every single person 2x a week there will be outbreaks. How many is too many is the only unknown.
UIUC just opened this week. While the plan sounds good, it’s too early to call it a success.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 08:24
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Touchdown Jesus will save them.
Anonymous
08/18/2020 08:23
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
RPI is testing all students who have access to the campus regardless of if they live on or off campus. 2x a week. Same for staff.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I admire them for trying, but it seems not everyone who wants to be tested can get tested, including kids with known contact with positive cases. Lack of testing access could be their downfall.
Colleges don’t want to test widely and they especially don’t want to be responsible for off campus students so they don’t have to count them in their numbers.