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Anonymous wrote:No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.

fwiw, I don't think they had them while still in HS.

A typical "not my kid" response. If his friends have it, your son has it too.

Seriously, do you think they're all going to bars, and he's virtuously staying home studying?

LOL high schoolers aren't "going to bars." They are, possibly, if they find the right shady store, using IDs to buy stuff and take it to somebody's house or the woods or wherever. Or maybe they just like the idea of having it. I can easily believe in a given friend group some have IDs and some don't. Doesn't mean the ones without aren't drinking. But they actually may not being doing exactly what their friends do.

In NJ and NY teens absolutely use them to get into clubs and such. It’s rare for a teen to not have one. And then when they get to college, everyone gets one because they won’t let you order a pitcher of margaritas for the table if one kid doesn’t have one. Nobody wants to be that kid, and nobody wants to invite that kid.

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Anonymous wrote:No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.

fwiw, I don't think they had them while still in HS.

A typical "not my kid" response. If his friends have it, your son has it too.

Seriously, do you think they're all going to bars, and he's virtuously staying home studying?

LOL high schoolers aren't "going to bars." They are, possibly, if they find the right shady store, using IDs to buy stuff and take it to somebody's house or the woods or wherever. Or maybe they just like the idea of having it. I can easily believe in a given friend group some have IDs and some don't. Doesn't mean the ones without aren't drinking. But they actually may not being doing exactly what their friends do.

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Anonymous wrote:No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.

fwiw, I don't think they had them while still in HS.

A typical "not my kid" response. If his friends have it, your son has it too.

Seriously, do you think they're all going to bars, and he's virtuously staying home studying?

Fairfax County HS student from the 80s here. I remember a group of guys had a fake id ring of sorts - they all worked together at a local store and used office equipment available there to alter DL or make fake IDs. VA DL had an open top and your address and SSN and DOB were dot matrix printed on a tiny trifold paper that slipped in behind your photo.

Easy for most anyone with a steady hand, an exacting knife and a dot matrix printer to manipulate.

Also knew of HS students who as a rite of passage in college (drinking age had recently been raised from 18) would take a older sibling’s or lookalike friend’s SS card and birth certificate to DMV. There was always a discussion about the “easiest” DMV where you would t worry about getting caught. Met one contemporary who had lost her driving privileges for years for doing exactly the above...took her sister’s info (maybe unknowingly) and this was the outcome or plea bargain.

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Anonymous wrote:No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.

fwiw, I don't think they had them while still in HS.

A typical "not my kid" response. If his friends have it, your son has it too.

Eh, not necessarily. In my slightly nerdy group of friends we only had 1 or 2 that had them out of 5 or 6 of us. One was an older sibling (we were seniors in HS) and the other some shitty chalk job (remember those??) the whole group relied on those to try to get us beer from mom and pop convenience stores. They absolutely would NOT have worked at a bar. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I had a friend in college get one confiscated and hit with a felony. It was plead down, but the record effectively ended any chance of a professional career. That made me rethink them

Are you my friend? I just posted.

Oh- I am a Fed so it can’t be me. Records expunged. Pleasing down should not have affected your friends career —-especially something that young.

It could if PPs friend ws a POC, rules are often times different for us and we end up with harsher punishments.

Anonymous wrote:Whose parents would know this? I had two fake IDs as a teen, but certainly didn't tell my mom and dad.

Someone who puts the ID on their desk and forgets to hide it? How is this a question?

Very much doubt my 18yo dd has one, but I still have mine! It is absolutely horrendous, made in a college dorm room in the late 80s. Technically it "worked" but certainly couldn't have fooled anyone. I keep it behind my regular driver's license in my wallet to give myself a little giggle every now and again.

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No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.


I don't agree that having a fake ID makes you a bad kid. I had one when I was a teen. I also had two part time jobs (25 hours a week total), was an honors student, and was super involved in student theater at my school. I mostly used the ID to get into clubs to go dancing with friends. I did use it to buy alcohol (beer) occasionally, but not frequently.


none of that proves you were not a bad kid

Ok, you're entitled to your view. I certainly don't care.

sensitive aren't we??

No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.


I don't agree that having a fake ID makes you a bad kid. I had one when I was a teen. I also had two part time jobs (25 hours a week total), was an honors student, and was super involved in student theater at my school. I mostly used the ID to get into clubs to go dancing with friends. I did use it to buy alcohol (beer) occasionally, but not frequently.


none of that proves you were not a bad kid

Ok, you're entitled to your view. I certainly don't care.

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No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.

I don't agree that having a fake ID makes you a bad kid. I had one when I was a teen. I also had two part time jobs (25 hours a week total), was an honors student, and was super involved in student theater at my school. I mostly used the ID to get into clubs to go dancing with friends. I did use it to buy alcohol (beer) occasionally, but not frequently.

none of that proves you were not a bad kid

There’s an interview on I think Stephen Colbert with BJ Novak (actor) where he talks about the fake ID he got when he was 14 through identity theft and one of his classmates, who another commenter googled, confirmed it in the YouTube comments. He grew up in a wealthy suburb and went to Harvard (before he was famous), so I’m sure your little perfect honors student children are doing the same thing.

No, but many of his friends do. None of them seem like the "type." A lot of smug parents who judge others on DCUM have no clue what their perfect kids are up to.

I don't agree that having a fake ID makes you a bad kid. I had one when I was a teen. I also had two part time jobs (25 hours a week total), was an honors student, and was super involved in student theater at my school. I mostly used the ID to get into clubs to go dancing with friends. I did use it to buy alcohol (beer) occasionally, but not frequently.

My oldest daughter (now 22) did. She was responsible.

I don’t know, but of course I hope not.