Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 10:48     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

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Anonymous wrote:Ncsl will be posting to visions this week. Ncsl has plans to play this fall


NCSL can’t afford another closure. They need those $. Ask Rich.
Otherwise they’d be at risk of dissolution. Like PP argued about Loudoun folding. Same scenario here. They’re riding the “it’s a private business we will proceed with waivers” wave so they’re kind of lucky in that regard they can pull such risk move.

Northam is ultimately the last straw. He’s holding the sword of Damocles over all these “non-profits”. If he calls it then it’ll be a sure death.

Question is: will he push VA into phase 2 and destroy all these organizations and clubs?

What’s your bet?


If all of the healthcare professionals are correct about COVID-19 will spread a lot more this a Fall, Northam, Hogan and other Governors might not have a choice.



Vitamin D from sunshine is keeping hospitalizations down over the summer as infection rates are on par with the Spring peak; before the board troll makes any stupid comments, look up the wealth of medical research on Vitamin D's role in immune system stabilization. Fall and winter will cause the severe case numbers to go up, and without the restrictions that were in place in the spring, there will be a surge of load on the hospitals. Governors of most states would have no other choice without a well available therapy, one that is currently unavailable. If the season starts around 9/1, I'd expect a shutdown by the end of the month.


So how do you explain the states with the most amount of sunshine - Florida, Texas and California leading the amount of cases and deaths this summer? There's a multi-varied explanation for the spread.

One factor true in most countries is that once you get to about 20-25% then the numbers don't rise drastically after. See Sweden which is no down to minimal death. per day. Same with with New York which is seeing limited deaths in Mahattan because the disease has already blown through the population and most people have already got it or are immune.


Ummm, high population skew? Again, the death rates as percentages are lower than they were over the winter last year in the northern hemisphere (China, US, and Europe) and they will rise again. Where are your numbers on your Manhattan "herd immunity" theory? I'd love to see them, because I don't believe it one bit.


Different poster but this isn’t kooky right wing stuff. You also need to remember that a substantially higher number of people have probably been exposed without testing. It will obviously vary by locality and state. It’s ridiculous to view numbers or curves on a national basis. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/herd-immunity-coronavirus/614035/


There are no scientific studies showing the US population is anywhere near a number of previous infections that would reach herd immunity levels (75%+), and that assumes that this is something that mutates at such a low rate that herd immunity is even possible. It may end up like seasonal cold viruses, to which there is no herd immunity.


Did you even read the article in the link to which you are replying? It suggests herd immunity levels - usually 60%, not 75% -- may be lower with Covid-19, on the order of 20-25%. This isn't right wing mania. But let's say its 60-75% - doesn't the same logic apply? I don't get why you think lockdowns kill the virus. They don't. They didn't in 1918. Herd immunity got us through that.


I have a PhD in biochemistry. That information is bunk and I’d question the motives of anyone who claims a 20-25% inflection base is sufficient for herd immunity, even for more stabile, non-mutating viruses.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 10:08     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

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Anonymous wrote:Ncsl will be posting to visions this week. Ncsl has plans to play this fall


NCSL can’t afford another closure. They need those $. Ask Rich.
Otherwise they’d be at risk of dissolution. Like PP argued about Loudoun folding. Same scenario here. They’re riding the “it’s a private business we will proceed with waivers” wave so they’re kind of lucky in that regard they can pull such risk move.

Northam is ultimately the last straw. He’s holding the sword of Damocles over all these “non-profits”. If he calls it then it’ll be a sure death.

Question is: will he push VA into phase 2 and destroy all these organizations and clubs?

What’s your bet?


If all of the healthcare professionals are correct about COVID-19 will spread a lot more this a Fall, Northam, Hogan and other Governors might not have a choice.



Vitamin D from sunshine is keeping hospitalizations down over the summer as infection rates are on par with the Spring peak; before the board troll makes any stupid comments, look up the wealth of medical research on Vitamin D's role in immune system stabilization. Fall and winter will cause the severe case numbers to go up, and without the restrictions that were in place in the spring, there will be a surge of load on the hospitals. Governors of most states would have no other choice without a well available therapy, one that is currently unavailable. If the season starts around 9/1, I'd expect a shutdown by the end of the month.


So how do you explain the states with the most amount of sunshine - Florida, Texas and California leading the amount of cases and deaths this summer? There's a multi-varied explanation for the spread.

One factor true in most countries is that once you get to about 20-25% then the numbers don't rise drastically after. See Sweden which is no down to minimal death. per day. Same with with New York which is seeing limited deaths in Mahattan because the disease has already blown through the population and most people have already got it or are immune.


Ummm, high population skew? Again, the death rates as percentages are lower than they were over the winter last year in the northern hemisphere (China, US, and Europe) and they will rise again. Where are your numbers on your Manhattan "herd immunity" theory? I'd love to see them, because I don't believe it one bit.


Different poster but this isn’t kooky right wing stuff. You also need to remember that a substantially higher number of people have probably been exposed without testing. It will obviously vary by locality and state. It’s ridiculous to view numbers or curves on a national basis. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/herd-immunity-coronavirus/614035/


There are no scientific studies showing the US population is anywhere near a number of previous infections that would reach herd immunity levels (75%+), and that assumes that this is something that mutates at such a low rate that herd immunity is even possible. It may end up like seasonal cold viruses, to which there is no herd immunity.


Did you even read the article in the link to which you are replying? It suggests herd immunity levels - usually 60%, not 75% -- may be lower with Covid-19, on the order of 20-25%. This isn't right wing mania. But let's say its 60-75% - doesn't the same logic apply? I don't get why you think lockdowns kill the virus. They don't. They didn't in 1918. Herd immunity got us through that.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 10:04     Subject: Re:CCL & NCSL return to play

No posting yet but if you click on you club page you can see what division you team is assigned to.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 09:51     Subject: Re:CCL & NCSL return to play




Wasn't NCSL supposed to post division structures last night. Anyone in the know


They were supposed to and they didn't, but I am not in the know as to why.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 09:50     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play


Wasn't NCSL supposed to post division structures last night. Anyone in the know?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 09:30     Subject: Re:CCL & NCSL return to play

I just want to be the first to thank all of you scientists, doctors, statisticians, epidemiologists and ...
I mean crazy me thought Id learn something about CCL and NCSL return to play but I now feel so educated and informed on COVID infection rates. Some of the folks on this thread should send this into the broadcast news so everyone can benefit from your genius
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 09:22     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Ncsl will be posting to visions this week. Ncsl has plans to play this fall


NCSL can’t afford another closure. They need those $. Ask Rich.
Otherwise they’d be at risk of dissolution. Like PP argued about Loudoun folding. Same scenario here. They’re riding the “it’s a private business we will proceed with waivers” wave so they’re kind of lucky in that regard they can pull such risk move.

Northam is ultimately the last straw. He’s holding the sword of Damocles over all these “non-profits”. If he calls it then it’ll be a sure death.

Question is: will he push VA into phase 2 and destroy all these organizations and clubs?

What’s your bet?


If all of the healthcare professionals are correct about COVID-19 will spread a lot more this a Fall, Northam, Hogan and other Governors might not have a choice.



Vitamin D from sunshine is keeping hospitalizations down over the summer as infection rates are on par with the Spring peak; before the board troll makes any stupid comments, look up the wealth of medical research on Vitamin D's role in immune system stabilization. Fall and winter will cause the severe case numbers to go up, and without the restrictions that were in place in the spring, there will be a surge of load on the hospitals. Governors of most states would have no other choice without a well available therapy, one that is currently unavailable. If the season starts around 9/1, I'd expect a shutdown by the end of the month.


So how do you explain the states with the most amount of sunshine - Florida, Texas and California leading the amount of cases and deaths this summer? There's a multi-varied explanation for the spread.

One factor true in most countries is that once you get to about 20-25% then the numbers don't rise drastically after. See Sweden which is no down to minimal death. per day. Same with with New York which is seeing limited deaths in Mahattan because the disease has already blown through the population and most people have already got it or are immune.


Ummm, high population skew? Again, the death rates as percentages are lower than they were over the winter last year in the northern hemisphere (China, US, and Europe) and they will rise again. Where are your numbers on your Manhattan "herd immunity" theory? I'd love to see them, because I don't believe it one bit.


Different poster but this isn’t kooky right wing stuff. You also need to remember that a substantially higher number of people have probably been exposed without testing. It will obviously vary by locality and state. It’s ridiculous to view numbers or curves on a national basis. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/herd-immunity-coronavirus/614035/


There are no scientific studies showing the US population is anywhere near a number of previous infections that would reach herd immunity levels (75%+), and that assumes that this is something that mutates at such a low rate that herd immunity is even possible. It may end up like seasonal cold viruses, to which there is no herd immunity.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2020 19:04     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ncsl will be posting to visions this week. Ncsl has plans to play this fall


NCSL can’t afford another closure. They need those $. Ask Rich.
Otherwise they’d be at risk of dissolution. Like PP argued about Loudoun folding. Same scenario here. They’re riding the “it’s a private business we will proceed with waivers” wave so they’re kind of lucky in that regard they can pull such risk move.

Northam is ultimately the last straw. He’s holding the sword of Damocles over all these “non-profits”. If he calls it then it’ll be a sure death.

Question is: will he push VA into phase 2 and destroy all these organizations and clubs?

What’s your bet?


If all of the healthcare professionals are correct about COVID-19 will spread a lot more this a Fall, Northam, Hogan and other Governors might not have a choice.



Vitamin D from sunshine is keeping hospitalizations down over the summer as infection rates are on par with the Spring peak; before the board troll makes any stupid comments, look up the wealth of medical research on Vitamin D's role in immune system stabilization. Fall and winter will cause the severe case numbers to go up, and without the restrictions that were in place in the spring, there will be a surge of load on the hospitals. Governors of most states would have no other choice without a well available therapy, one that is currently unavailable. If the season starts around 9/1, I'd expect a shutdown by the end of the month.


So how do you explain the states with the most amount of sunshine - Florida, Texas and California leading the amount of cases and deaths this summer? There's a multi-varied explanation for the spread.

One factor true in most countries is that once you get to about 20-25% then the numbers don't rise drastically after. See Sweden which is no down to minimal death. per day. Same with with New York which is seeing limited deaths in Mahattan because the disease has already blown through the population and most people have already got it or are immune.


Ummm, high population skew? Again, the death rates as percentages are lower than they were over the winter last year in the northern hemisphere (China, US, and Europe) and they will rise again. Where are your numbers on your Manhattan "herd immunity" theory? I'd love to see them, because I don't believe it one bit.


Different poster but this isn’t kooky right wing stuff. You also need to remember that a substantially higher number of people have probably been exposed without testing. It will obviously vary by locality and state. It’s ridiculous to view numbers or curves on a national basis. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/herd-immunity-coronavirus/614035/
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2020 16:15     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ncsl will be posting to visions this week. Ncsl has plans to play this fall


NCSL can’t afford another closure. They need those $. Ask Rich.
Otherwise they’d be at risk of dissolution. Like PP argued about Loudoun folding. Same scenario here. They’re riding the “it’s a private business we will proceed with waivers” wave so they’re kind of lucky in that regard they can pull such risk move.

Northam is ultimately the last straw. He’s holding the sword of Damocles over all these “non-profits”. If he calls it then it’ll be a sure death.

Question is: will he push VA into phase 2 and destroy all these organizations and clubs?

What’s your bet?


If all of the healthcare professionals are correct about COVID-19 will spread a lot more this a Fall, Northam, Hogan and other Governors might not have a choice.



Vitamin D from sunshine is keeping hospitalizations down over the summer as infection rates are on par with the Spring peak; before the board troll makes any stupid comments, look up the wealth of medical research on Vitamin D's role in immune system stabilization. Fall and winter will cause the severe case numbers to go up, and without the restrictions that were in place in the spring, there will be a surge of load on the hospitals. Governors of most states would have no other choice without a well available therapy, one that is currently unavailable. If the season starts around 9/1, I'd expect a shutdown by the end of the month.


So how do you explain the states with the most amount of sunshine - Florida, Texas and California leading the amount of cases and deaths this summer? There's a multi-varied explanation for the spread.

One factor true in most countries is that once you get to about 20-25% then the numbers don't rise drastically after. See Sweden which is no down to minimal death. per day. Same with with New York which is seeing limited deaths in Mahattan because the disease has already blown through the population and most people have already got it or are immune.


Ummm, high population skew? Again, the death rates as percentages are lower than they were over the winter last year in the northern hemisphere (China, US, and Europe) and they will rise again. Where are your numbers on your Manhattan "herd immunity" theory? I'd love to see them, because I don't believe it one bit.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2020 16:06     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ncsl will be posting to visions this week. Ncsl has plans to play this fall


NCSL can’t afford another closure. They need those $. Ask Rich.
Otherwise they’d be at risk of dissolution. Like PP argued about Loudoun folding. Same scenario here. They’re riding the “it’s a private business we will proceed with waivers” wave so they’re kind of lucky in that regard they can pull such risk move.

Northam is ultimately the last straw. He’s holding the sword of Damocles over all these “non-profits”. If he calls it then it’ll be a sure death.

Question is: will he push VA into phase 2 and destroy all these organizations and clubs?

What’s your bet?


If all of the healthcare professionals are correct about COVID-19 will spread a lot more this a Fall, Northam, Hogan and other Governors might not have a choice.



Vitamin D from sunshine is keeping hospitalizations down over the summer as infection rates are on par with the Spring peak; before the board troll makes any stupid comments, look up the wealth of medical research on Vitamin D's role in immune system stabilization. Fall and winter will cause the severe case numbers to go up, and without the restrictions that were in place in the spring, there will be a surge of load on the hospitals. Governors of most states would have no other choice without a well available therapy, one that is currently unavailable. If the season starts around 9/1, I'd expect a shutdown by the end of the month.


So how do you explain the states with the most amount of sunshine - Florida, Texas and California leading the amount of cases and deaths this summer? There's a multi-varied explanation for the spread.

One factor true in most countries is that once you get to about 20-25% then the numbers don't rise drastically after. See Sweden which is no down to minimal death. per day. Same with with New York which is seeing limited deaths in Mahattan because the disease has already blown through the population and most people have already got it or are immune.[/quote

Officials were stupid to think that everyone would stay outside in the sun all day long in hot/humid weather instead of being indoors with the AC on. That’s why cases continued to rise in the summer. Just wait until the Fall & Winter season.

Do you know what 20-25% of US population of 330,000,000 equals to? That’s 66,000,000 to 82,500,000 of cases when there’s only 5 million cases right now. That’s a long way to go with cases and deaths.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2020 14:15     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ncsl will be posting to visions this week. Ncsl has plans to play this fall


NCSL can’t afford another closure. They need those $. Ask Rich.
Otherwise they’d be at risk of dissolution. Like PP argued about Loudoun folding. Same scenario here. They’re riding the “it’s a private business we will proceed with waivers” wave so they’re kind of lucky in that regard they can pull such risk move.

Northam is ultimately the last straw. He’s holding the sword of Damocles over all these “non-profits”. If he calls it then it’ll be a sure death.

Question is: will he push VA into phase 2 and destroy all these organizations and clubs?

What’s your bet?


If all of the healthcare professionals are correct about COVID-19 will spread a lot more this a Fall, Northam, Hogan and other Governors might not have a choice.



Vitamin D from sunshine is keeping hospitalizations down over the summer as infection rates are on par with the Spring peak; before the board troll makes any stupid comments, look up the wealth of medical research on Vitamin D's role in immune system stabilization. Fall and winter will cause the severe case numbers to go up, and without the restrictions that were in place in the spring, there will be a surge of load on the hospitals. Governors of most states would have no other choice without a well available therapy, one that is currently unavailable. If the season starts around 9/1, I'd expect a shutdown by the end of the month.


So how do you explain the states with the most amount of sunshine - Florida, Texas and California leading the amount of cases and deaths this summer? There's a multi-varied explanation for the spread.

One factor true in most countries is that once you get to about 20-25% then the numbers don't rise drastically after. See Sweden which is no down to minimal death. per day. Same with with New York which is seeing limited deaths in Mahattan because the disease has already blown through the population and most people have already got it or are immune.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2020 13:51     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:Does CCL have teams for both u18 and u19?


Yes, but of course it depends on your club
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2020 13:46     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Does CCL have teams for both u18 and u19?
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2020 13:54     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

No trolling. That anyone would think otherwise just shows their small mindedness. Suggest you find a hobby.

Here is an updated club email released today:

"I have got great news?!!? It is official. We will be playing soccer games this season!

CCL: Games will begin August 30th for those Club ready to play. September 12/13 if teams need more time to prepare.

NCSL: Division Structure will be announced this coming week. Games will begin September 12/13."


Cannot wait!!! Our team has already been practicing hard and raring to go!
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2020 13:44     Subject: CCL & NCSL return to play

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

No trolling. That anyone would think otherwise just shows their small mindedness. Suggest you find a hobby.

Here is an updated club email released today:

"I have got great news?!!? It is official. We will be playing soccer games this season!

CCL: Games will begin August 30th for those Club ready to play. September 12/13 if teams need more time to prepare.

NCSL: Division Structure will be announced this coming week. Games will begin September 12/13."


Have you been on the LMVSC townhall thread? What do you think?