Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 19:27     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every now and then there is someone on here complaining about people returning dogs. Does it really matter if a small percentage of dogs are returned?

What's the alternative for the dogs if people don't at least try with a rescue dog, lethal injection?


NP. About 50% of rescues are returned. So I suppose "small percentage" is arguable.


where do you get that figure? i am the person on the board of a shelter, and i've also been deeply involved with sheltering and rescue for years, and have never heard that figure


When we looked into getting a rescue dog, I read all sorts of studies, stories, anecdotes, statistics, etc. Some rescues do a good job of placing dogs. Many don't. And many rescue dogs are or should be unplaceable.

You shouldn’t spread misinformation like that. Half of all rescues don’t get returned. Despite your “anecdotes”.
I’m so sick of the hate for rescue groups.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 19:07     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every now and then there is someone on here complaining about people returning dogs. Does it really matter if a small percentage of dogs are returned?

What's the alternative for the dogs if people don't at least try with a rescue dog, lethal injection?


NP. About 50% of rescues are returned. So I suppose "small percentage" is arguable.


where do you get that figure? i am the person on the board of a shelter, and i've also been deeply involved with sheltering and rescue for years, and have never heard that figure


When we looked into getting a rescue dog, I read all sorts of studies, stories, anecdotes, statistics, etc. Some rescues do a good job of placing dogs. Many don't. And many rescue dogs are or should be unplaceable.


So, you made it up?
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 19:00     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:I think it sucks to use the label ‘quarantine dog adopters’. Implies that anyone who adopts during this time is somehow irresponsible or a lousy pet owner.


I agree, although I call my dog a covid dog . He’s very loved.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 17:54     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
I think it sucks to use the label ‘quarantine dog adopters’. Implies that anyone who adopts during this time is somehow irresponsible or a lousy pet owner.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 17:35     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Is the percentage of dogs being returned higher than usual? Or is it just that more dogs are being adopted out and the same % are being returned?

I know some have adopted dogs right off the transport with almost no prior info so perhaps that is making it difficult to know if the humans and dog are a good fit? Some rescues won’t hold a dog so basically you have to adopt this way if you want a dog through them. In this situation, maybe the rescues bear some responsibility if the adoption doesn’t work out.

Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 15:22     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Please, PLEASE do not go and adopt a dog because you are board in quarantine or the kids need something to do. I work with two local rescure organizations and while I think it's wonderful that so many dogs are finding homes, we've also seen a dramatic increase in the number that are being returned as people figure out how much work they actually are, that they will not be able to care for them long term, that rescues can take more work to train and settle in, etc. The amount of work for the agencies to place a dog, work with a family to get settled, then have the dog returned, placed back with a foster, then placed again is astronomical, especially for volunteer run organizations, not to mention the trauma the dog faces.

If you are considering adopting a dog PLEASE do your research, a ton of it. Figure out the financial comittement (a healthy dog can cost upwards of $2000/year to care for), the family involvement (whol will REGULARLY walk the dog, who will play with him, feed him), figure out what training you will do if it turns out he's a chewer or a barker or a marker or a guarder. Are you okay with your house being full of hair, your doorways gnawed on, your floors scratched up? Please DO NOT just give your kids a puppy without assuming you will be doing the bulk of the work yourself. Adopting a dog means bringing another member into your family, one with his own quirks and personality traits AND flaws - be prepared to keep and work with that family member to accept him as your own. By doing this research before you go adopt a dog you'll be saving yourself, the dog, and the agencies time, heartache, money, and a hassle.


Crazy dog rescue person. Many of these dogs are not socialized at all, have medical problems, behavior problems and have never been in someone’s home before. Do you TELL people that or are so so focused on the dogs needs that you forget that people are doing their best to get by during a pandemic.


Of course. And when you adopt a rescue dog that is par for the couse. Most reputable rescue organizations (including mine) do the best they can to share as mush information as we can, but most resuce dogs will come with some issues. this is not new information and easily discoverable with just a little research. When you sign that adoption contract you are committing to work through issues with your new dog. If you can't deal with some behavior or health problems, don't adopt a rescue. And yes, I am focused on the dog's needs. I completely undersand people are doing the best they can during a pandemic, but that doesn't mean a dog should be seen as a temporary anxiety reducer to be returned at the first inconvenience.


Just PLEASE PLEASE remember that the rescue puts getting dogs place with someone anyone before any persons needs.



People talk about “the rescue” as if it’s one organization or person.
You do realize the vast majority are VOLUNTEERS. Volunteers come with varying personalities, experience and priorities. As someone who fosters puppies it is so frustrating to hear. Let me tell you the stories of what crazy adopters want, as if we can pull puppies out of our ass on a timeline that is convenient to them.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:59     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please, PLEASE do not go and adopt a dog because you are board in quarantine or the kids need something to do. I work with two local rescure organizations and while I think it's wonderful that so many dogs are finding homes, we've also seen a dramatic increase in the number that are being returned as people figure out how much work they actually are, that they will not be able to care for them long term, that rescues can take more work to train and settle in, etc. The amount of work for the agencies to place a dog, work with a family to get settled, then have the dog returned, placed back with a foster, then placed again is astronomical, especially for volunteer run organizations, not to mention the trauma the dog faces.

If you are considering adopting a dog PLEASE do your research, a ton of it. Figure out the financial comittement (a healthy dog can cost upwards of $2000/year to care for), the family involvement (whol will REGULARLY walk the dog, who will play with him, feed him), figure out what training you will do if it turns out he's a chewer or a barker or a marker or a guarder. Are you okay with your house being full of hair, your doorways gnawed on, your floors scratched up? Please DO NOT just give your kids a puppy without assuming you will be doing the bulk of the work yourself. Adopting a dog means bringing another member into your family, one with his own quirks and personality traits AND flaws - be prepared to keep and work with that family member to accept him as your own. By doing this research before you go adopt a dog you'll be saving yourself, the dog, and the agencies time, heartache, money, and a hassle.


Crazy dog rescue person. Many of these dogs are not socialized at all, have medical problems, behavior problems and have never been in someone’s home before. Do you TELL people that or are so so focused on the dogs needs that you forget that people are doing their best to get by during a pandemic.


Of course. And when you adopt a rescue dog that is par for the couse. Most reputable rescue organizations (including mine) do the best they can to share as mush information as we can, but most resuce dogs will come with some issues. this is not new information and easily discoverable with just a little research. When you sign that adoption contract you are committing to work through issues with your new dog. If you can't deal with some behavior or health problems, don't adopt a rescue. And yes, I am focused on the dog's needs. I completely undersand people are doing the best they can during a pandemic, but that doesn't mean a dog should be seen as a temporary anxiety reducer to be returned at the first inconvenience.


Just PLEASE PLEASE remember that the rescue puts getting dogs place with someone anyone before any persons needs.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:49     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every now and then there is someone on here complaining about people returning dogs. Does it really matter if a small percentage of dogs are returned?

What's the alternative for the dogs if people don't at least try with a rescue dog, lethal injection?


NP. About 50% of rescues are returned. So I suppose "small percentage" is arguable.


where do you get that figure? i am the person on the board of a shelter, and i've also been deeply involved with sheltering and rescue for years, and have never heard that figure


When we looked into getting a rescue dog, I read all sorts of studies, stories, anecdotes, statistics, etc. Some rescues do a good job of placing dogs. Many don't. And many rescue dogs are or should be unplaceable.


i think you were reading bs, honestly. that figure is nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:42     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know who has gotten a dog has done so now because they are home long enough to bond and train it. Most people haven't had 2-3 weeks at home to spend with a puppy or new dog until now. They don't intend to return it, but just never had that span of time at home before covid.


This. We have four new puppies on our street alone. Every family that got a dog, did so because they knew they wanted one and now is the time when they are home ALL DAY EVERY DAY. To train, to bond, to get through the puppy months.

There may be some that end up not realizing how much work a dog is, but I think the vast majority will be well settled for the next year or so that this pandemic is going to last.

Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:36     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every now and then there is someone on here complaining about people returning dogs. Does it really matter if a small percentage of dogs are returned?

What's the alternative for the dogs if people don't at least try with a rescue dog, lethal injection?


NP. About 50% of rescues are returned. So I suppose "small percentage" is arguable.

I work with several rescues and that number isnt anywhere close to the return rate. I am curious where you got that?
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:27     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:We are longtime dog owners who have been thinking about adding a second dog this year. Its really hard to find one that is okay with kids and other dogs, no major health issues, and not a pit bull blend!
I did find one that looked great but he was giant sized and i was having trouble talking my husband into another very large dog—of course, he was adopted within days of posting.


There are so many pit bulls and usually not labeled as such.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:24     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please, PLEASE do not go and adopt a dog because you are board in quarantine or the kids need something to do. I work with two local rescure organizations and while I think it's wonderful that so many dogs are finding homes, we've also seen a dramatic increase in the number that are being returned as people figure out how much work they actually are, that they will not be able to care for them long term, that rescues can take more work to train and settle in, etc. The amount of work for the agencies to place a dog, work with a family to get settled, then have the dog returned, placed back with a foster, then placed again is astronomical, especially for volunteer run organizations, not to mention the trauma the dog faces.

If you are considering adopting a dog PLEASE do your research, a ton of it. Figure out the financial comittement (a healthy dog can cost upwards of $2000/year to care for), the family involvement (whol will REGULARLY walk the dog, who will play with him, feed him), figure out what training you will do if it turns out he's a chewer or a barker or a marker or a guarder. Are you okay with your house being full of hair, your doorways gnawed on, your floors scratched up? Please DO NOT just give your kids a puppy without assuming you will be doing the bulk of the work yourself. Adopting a dog means bringing another member into your family, one with his own quirks and personality traits AND flaws - be prepared to keep and work with that family member to accept him as your own. By doing this research before you go adopt a dog you'll be saving yourself, the dog, and the agencies time, heartache, money, and a hassle.


Crazy dog rescue person. Many of these dogs are not socialized at all, have medical problems, behavior problems and have never been in someone’s home before. Do you TELL people that or are so so focused on the dogs needs that you forget that people are doing their best to get by during a pandemic.


Of course. And when you adopt a rescue dog that is par for the couse. Most reputable rescue organizations (including mine) do the best they can to share as mush information as we can, but most resuce dogs will come with some issues. this is not new information and easily discoverable with just a little research. When you sign that adoption contract you are committing to work through issues with your new dog. If you can't deal with some behavior or health problems, don't adopt a rescue. And yes, I am focused on the dog's needs. I completely undersand people are doing the best they can during a pandemic, but that doesn't mean a dog should be seen as a temporary anxiety reducer to be returned at the first inconvenience.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:11     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every now and then there is someone on here complaining about people returning dogs. Does it really matter if a small percentage of dogs are returned?

What's the alternative for the dogs if people don't at least try with a rescue dog, lethal injection?


NP. About 50% of rescues are returned. So I suppose "small percentage" is arguable.


where do you get that figure? i am the person on the board of a shelter, and i've also been deeply involved with sheltering and rescue for years, and have never heard that figure


When we looked into getting a rescue dog, I read all sorts of studies, stories, anecdotes, statistics, etc. Some rescues do a good job of placing dogs. Many don't. And many rescue dogs are or should be unplaceable.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:10     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
So PLEASE PLEASE tell the truth about these dogs before you send them off to peoples homes and have them say NEVER again.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2020 14:09     Subject: Frustrated by 'quarantine' dog adopters
Anonymous wrote:Please, PLEASE do not go and adopt a dog because you are board in quarantine or the kids need something to do. I work with two local rescure organizations and while I think it's wonderful that so many dogs are finding homes, we've also seen a dramatic increase in the number that are being returned as people figure out how much work they actually are, that they will not be able to care for them long term, that rescues can take more work to train and settle in, etc. The amount of work for the agencies to place a dog, work with a family to get settled, then have the dog returned, placed back with a foster, then placed again is astronomical, especially for volunteer run organizations, not to mention the trauma the dog faces.

If you are considering adopting a dog PLEASE do your research, a ton of it. Figure out the financial comittement (a healthy dog can cost upwards of $2000/year to care for), the family involvement (whol will REGULARLY walk the dog, who will play with him, feed him), figure out what training you will do if it turns out he's a chewer or a barker or a marker or a guarder. Are you okay with your house being full of hair, your doorways gnawed on, your floors scratched up? Please DO NOT just give your kids a puppy without assuming you will be doing the bulk of the work yourself. Adopting a dog means bringing another member into your family, one with his own quirks and personality traits AND flaws - be prepared to keep and work with that family member to accept him as your own. By doing this research before you go adopt a dog you'll be saving yourself, the dog, and the agencies time, heartache, money, and a hassle.


Crazy dog rescue person. Many of these dogs are not socialized at all, have medical problems, behavior problems and have never been in someone’s home before. Do you TELL people that or are so so focused on the dogs needs that you forget that people are doing their best to get by during a pandemic.