Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:38     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?


A failing government system is your fault as well as mine. Running away (white parents fleeing because of desegregation) is one of the reasons the school systems are a mess. At some point we the citizens need to stop running and start fixing.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:28     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?


First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me



Yeah, that’s not even remotely the same thing.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:26     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:School systems are doing this to themselves, they polled parents, learned preferences and then ignored those preferences.


Yep, exactly.

DH and I would SO much rather send our daughter to public school, but the public schools have gone down the tube, and well before COVID.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:25     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?


First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:24     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. This frightens me. This right-wing group trying to encourage mass exits from our public schools.


Conservative leaning moderate here - they have been trying to do this for ages. Did you not know that? If you didn't, the reason is because it's never gotten any traction.



Yes, I realize it was a fringe movement before...but now it’s becoming more mainstream.


what do you expect? Look at how furious people are with schools going virtual with privates attempting in person. Do you think sorry your middle class, your kids don't get an education is going to go over well?


And how furious would they be if schools chose to open and the virus spread and lots of teachers, students, and family members died as a result? This is an unprecedented situation and whatever the schools choose parents will be furious.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:23     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Follow the money.

Always.

It tells you whether the organization is scary or funny.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:22     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

School systems are doing this to themselves, they polled parents, learned preferences and then ignored those preferences.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:18     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. This frightens me. This right-wing group trying to encourage mass exits from our public schools.


Public school has been going "down the tubes" since desegregation. Seriously. Read the book," Education in America". The "Right" is simply protecting their investment, which is white children. That is why they are encouraging mass exit. White children's education will be privatized or homeschooled, which means they have total control over what they are taught. Think that over. What will be left in public schools are the disadvantaged, black and Hispanic children or those that are indifferent ( white BLM supporters). This ensures that white children continue to excel and advance or maintain their station in society. It makes sense and covid presented the perfect chance to so what they have been wanting to do the day desegregation occurred. Yes, I know.this may be unpleasant but life is unpleasant.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 18:05     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This frightens me. This right-wing group trying to encourage mass exits from our public schools.


Public school has been going "down the tubes" since desegregation. Seriously. Read the book," Education in America". The "Right" is simply protecting their investment, which is white children. That is why they are encouraging mass exit. White children's education will be privatized or homeschooled, which means they have total control over what they are taught. Think that over. What will be left in public schools are the disadvantaged, black and Hispanic children or those that are indifferent ( white BLM supporters). This ensures that white children continue to excel and advance or maintain their station in society. It makes sense and covid presented the perfect chance to so what they have been wanting to do the day desegregation occurred. Yes, I know.this may be unpleasant but life is unpleasant.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 17:43     Subject: Re:GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I hate this. I am part of the problem, having just enrolled my child in private school.

I know why public schools are important and why having rich high-achieving kids in public school is important. We had bent over backward to stay at our public school despite some minor disadvantages to our kid. But we have just hit our limit. I still think our school is great -- but they are limited by FCPS, and FCPS has screwed up repeatedly. They have really played into the GOP talking points that public services are bad.

My spouse thinks we'll return to public school in 2021. I think we're probably in private until junior high.

I still don't support vouchers, as a policy matter.


God forbid those less fortunate be able to make the choice you did
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 17:36     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?


+1


Nothing. Just don’t expect taxpayers to foot your private school bill.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 17:35     Subject: Re:GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Yes, I hate this. I am part of the problem, having just enrolled my child in private school.

I know why public schools are important and why having rich high-achieving kids in public school is important. We had bent over backward to stay at our public school despite some minor disadvantages to our kid. But we have just hit our limit. I still think our school is great -- but they are limited by FCPS, and FCPS has screwed up repeatedly. They have really played into the GOP talking points that public services are bad.

My spouse thinks we'll return to public school in 2021. I think we're probably in private until junior high.

I still don't support vouchers, as a policy matter.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 17:32     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. This frightens me. This right-wing group trying to encourage mass exits from our public schools.


If public schools cannot educate the children, why parents pay tax to support public schools?


We used to have a tradition in this country that all children deserved a good education and things worked OK for decades. In 1980, my district in Pennsylvania saw the school board taken over by a well-funded group of wealthy homeowners without kids in the schools. They did a pretty tidy job of dismantling programs, shrinking the school budget and openly stating that the schools were a failed burden on taxpayers rather than the engine that drew many of us to move into that district.

That's what happens when money gets people put in charge of public institutions with the specific intention of dismantling them. It works and we see it today with current administration. People have no idea how much money is behind these movements.


Exactly! OP here. This is not just some random group of conservative Christians. These are likely coordinated well funded efforts by powerful right wing people. They are THRILLED people are switching to privates or hiring tutors or homeschooling...they don’t care what you do. They just want Americans, en mass, to leave public schools for subversive reasons.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 17:18     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. This frightens me. This right-wing group trying to encourage mass exits from our public schools.


If public schools cannot educate the children, why parents pay tax to support public schools?


We used to have a tradition in this country that all children deserved a good education and things worked OK for decades. In 1980, my district in Pennsylvania saw the school board taken over by a well-funded group of wealthy homeowners without kids in the schools. They did a pretty tidy job of dismantling programs, shrinking the school budget and openly stating that the schools were a failed burden on taxpayers rather than the engine that drew many of us to move into that district.

That's what happens when money gets people put in charge of public institutions with the specific intention of dismantling them. It works and we see it today with current administration. People have no idea how much money is behind these movements.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 17:10     Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?


+1


+1 Nobody is making you leave OP. If you think public run educaction is so great, stick with it. What do you care if others leave?


if you favor public education, it's scary because there is a tipping point where tax payers start to opposing funding for public schools.