Anonymous
Post 07/29/2020 09:08     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At Key, there is usually 1-10 kids that leave after 3rd and 4th. When the kids go to middle school, it has varied over the past years, but this year they sent their largest cohort in memory...almost 35 out of 48 are going to Hardy.


This coming/rising 5th key cohort is already down to 30 from around 78 at the grade cohort Height, and at least 5-10 not going to hardy - but this grade could be an anomaly. The leaving 5th grade class this year going to hardy is much larger.


I have access to the actual numbers...the rising 5th grade class is closer to 40 (more like 42), compared to the number of 45 when they were in fourth grade. That's a loss of only 3 kids.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2020 16:23     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Virtually none at Murch. Only three kids that I know of from this year’s graduating class are not going on to Deal — 2 are going private and 1 to a charter.


We are a Murch family and we are not going to Deal. I don't think you could possibly know how many families are going elsewhere.


Umm, okay. Maybe yours is one of the families I know about? Probably not, though, because they aren't rude. As I stated, I know of three kids from this year's graduating class who are not going to Deal. Certainly, there are quite possibly more. But we know the majority of 5th graders, so have a pretty good sense of where people are going.

FWIW, this is a sea change from even 8-10 years ago, when many more Murch kids went on to privates, charters or MoCo/VA publics after fifth grade. This is from a neighbor who used to be head of the HSA at Murch.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2020 10:52     Subject: Re:JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:We moved after 4th because our youngest was starting K. We didn't move far just to the other side of Western. It has been a breath of fresh air. While it could be a case of self fulfilling prophecy, We have been very happy in the Whitman cluster and if we had to do it over we would have moved sooner.


Um, ok. Good for you.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2020 10:38     Subject: Re:JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
We moved after 4th because our youngest was starting K. We didn't move far just to the other side of Western. It has been a breath of fresh air. While it could be a case of self fulfilling prophecy, We have been very happy in the Whitman cluster and if we had to do it over we would have moved sooner.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2020 10:16     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At Key, there is usually 1-10 kids that leave after 3rd and 4th. When the kids go to middle school, it has varied over the past years, but this year they sent their largest cohort in memory...almost 35 out of 48 are going to Hardy.


This coming/rising 5th key cohort is already down to 30 from around 78 at the grade cohort Height, and at least 5-10 not going to hardy - but this grade could be an anomaly. The leaving 5th grade class this year going to hardy is much larger.


So you are saying 48 of 78 kids are not returning to 5th grade at Key?
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 21:18     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:At Key, there is usually 1-10 kids that leave after 3rd and 4th. When the kids go to middle school, it has varied over the past years, but this year they sent their largest cohort in memory...almost 35 out of 48 are going to Hardy.


This coming/rising 5th key cohort is already down to 30 from around 78 at the grade cohort Height, and at least 5-10 not going to hardy - but this grade could be an anomaly. The leaving 5th grade class this year going to hardy is much larger.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 10:53     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
my second kid just left Murch. in my experience virtually all 4th graders go to 5th grade (with first child only 1 kid went private that I know of at the end of 4th grade, none with second child that I know of). also, virtually all kids went to Deal. after Deal there is a lot more diversification. my oldest went to Wilson and her friends went to Wilson, Walls, Banneker, Duke Ellington. but there was really no peeling off after 4th grade.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 10:42     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:Mann had 3 4th grades. They are having 3 5th grades. I know of maybe 5 kids (mine included) who are leaving before 5th. Most are staying and many many plan to go to Hardy. My child is not happy to be leaving Mann before 5th. This was not an easy decision and was made more for our family reasons than anything with Mann/Hardy.


As a stoddert > hardy family. I find it interesting that more Mann/Key/Easton families are going to Hardy. There was a big difference between 6th and 8th grade in class makeup.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 09:16     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Mann had 3 4th grades. They are having 3 5th grades. I know of maybe 5 kids (mine included) who are leaving before 5th. Most are staying and many many plan to go to Hardy. My child is not happy to be leaving Mann before 5th. This was not an easy decision and was made more for our family reasons than anything with Mann/Hardy.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 09:12     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
At Key, there is usually 1-10 kids that leave after 3rd and 4th. When the kids go to middle school, it has varied over the past years, but this year they sent their largest cohort in memory...almost 35 out of 48 are going to Hardy.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2020 09:10     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:Virtually none at Murch. Only three kids that I know of from this year’s graduating class are not going on to Deal — 2 are going private and 1 to a charter.


We are a Murch family and we are not going to Deal. I don't think you could possibly know how many families are going elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 18:40     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Are you asking - how many leave after 4th for privates / charters?

Or how many 5th graders do not enroll in their neighborhood middle school?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 18:36     Subject: Re:JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Lafayette used to publish a destination list for the graduation 5th graders.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 15:10     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Virtually none at Murch. Only three kids that I know of from this year’s graduating class are not going on to Deal — 2 are going private and 1 to a charter.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2020 21:59     Subject: JKLM schools: how many kids usually leave between 4/5th?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Almost none at jammed. Maybe 1 to Latin and 1 to Basis.


If you look at the enrollment data year over year, you will see that typically the Janney class starts to decline by a few after 3rd grade.
The drop from 4th to 5th is 5-6 students a year. These are a combination of going to privates, charters, family moves.

class size 105 for 4th became 99 for 5th
class size 119 for 4th became 113 for 5th




It just seems like it’s impossible to draw any real conclusions from this.

First, if you assume they are all returning students then 94% return. That seems good to me but you also don’t know how that compares to other schools.

But second, and much bigger issue, you have no idea what the waterfall looks like. It’s also possible 50 students left and 50 entirely new students moved in. Unlikely, but absent that info it’s impossible to conclude how many students left.

Third, you don’t know the reason for leaving or how it’s distributed. DC is transient and people leave the state frequently for posts to other countries etc. It may be that it has a higher propensity for this than the average in other states.

Basically you don’t have anywhere near enough info to draw any conclusion at all here.


Op here- yes this is why I am asking. Lots of kids enter school at various grades. Hoping older parents had some perspective.