Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 13:08     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.


Bravo. I hope Charles Allen and other progressive councilmembers recognize thwt rehabilitation and the halfway home placements need to be in neighborhoods away from crime. I hope DCUM progressives realize they need to welcome these upith into their neighborhoods.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 13:05     Subject: Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC headed for 15 year homicide record this year. 90s here we come
And we have to address it but giving extra funding to the police doesn't solve the problem. People don't trust the police and they don't trust the police to protect them if they testify against the shooters. I've seen that happen in my own neighborhood when a young woman got on the stand in court and refused to testify out of fear. So if you can't trust the police to give you justice, you make your own justice by going after the people you think are responsible. Putting more cops on the street doing the same thing they've always done isn't the solution.


The anti snitch culture is very real and scary for people who would be targets of murder should they become known as a snitch. That being said, I also live in a neighborhood full of crime and have heard 3 people shot to death in the past three years on my block. How much worse will it be with less police presence? Most people in my neighborhood do not want to defund the police and I think most of the DCUM board needs to seriously consider what it would be like to live in a neighborhood where 5 men open shooting at the same time is acceptable.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 12:59     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.


Agreed, and we'd better be ready to pay for a good program. Underfunded half-assed programs are just going to put them back out in the streets. Of course we either pay for it now or pay $$$$ to house then in jails.


Totally. The youth facilities they send them to, followed by hourly employee monitored 'halfway' houses that they run away from on the reg are a joke. The Youth Rehabilitation Act which gives offender youth in DC ALL SORTS of rights, should have also included actual measures for rehabilitation.


That's nice to talk about but are you willing to pay more in taxes to support real rehabilitation? Real opportunities to break the cycle?

Fake progressives in the DC government say all the right things about equity but don't put their (read: our) money where their mouth is. And then these half-assed measures don't work. Shockingly. See Phil Mendelson calling himself a progressive.


People need to put $ where their mouth is. This goes for housing and school desegregation.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 12:33     Subject: Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:DC headed for 15 year homicide record this year. 90s here we come
And we have to address it but giving extra funding to the police doesn't solve the problem. People don't trust the police and they don't trust the police to protect them if they testify against the shooters. I've seen that happen in my own neighborhood when a young woman got on the stand in court and refused to testify out of fear. So if you can't trust the police to give you justice, you make your own justice by going after the people you think are responsible. Putting more cops on the street doing the same thing they've always done isn't the solution.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 12:09     Subject: Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
=suburban house prices going up

DC was a cesspit of crime in the 70's, 80's and 90's
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 12:08     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.


Historically parents took responsibility and parented their children.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2020 12:04     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.


Agreed, and we'd better be ready to pay for a good program. Underfunded half-assed programs are just going to put them back out in the streets. Of course we either pay for it now or pay $$$$ to house then in jails.


Totally. The youth facilities they send them to, followed by hourly employee monitored 'halfway' houses that they run away from on the reg are a joke. The Youth Rehabilitation Act which gives offender youth in DC ALL SORTS of rights, should have also included actual measures for rehabilitation.


That's nice to talk about but are you willing to pay more in taxes to support real rehabilitation? Real opportunities to break the cycle?

Fake progressives in the DC government say all the right things about equity but don't put their (read: our) money where their mouth is. And then these half-assed measures don't work. Shockingly. See Phil Mendelson calling himself a progressive.


I pay plenty in taxes and the Council just voted to defund the police. Presumably the Council can look at where the money goes before raising taxes. If it is currently being used in an accountable way (which we all know there is lots of waste, graft and bloat) and MORE is needed, yes-I would be willing to pay more. A small price to pay to avoid the cycle of destruction that is current "youth rehabilitation"
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2020 16:56     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.


Agreed, and we'd better be ready to pay for a good program. Underfunded half-assed programs are just going to put them back out in the streets. Of course we either pay for it now or pay $$$$ to house then in jails.


Totally. The youth facilities they send them to, followed by hourly employee monitored 'halfway' houses that they run away from on the reg are a joke. The Youth Rehabilitation Act which gives offender youth in DC ALL SORTS of rights, should have also included actual measures for rehabilitation.


That's nice to talk about but are you willing to pay more in taxes to support real rehabilitation? Real opportunities to break the cycle?

Fake progressives in the DC government say all the right things about equity but don't put their (read: our) money where their mouth is. And then these half-assed measures don't work. Shockingly. See Phil Mendelson calling himself a progressive.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2020 10:36     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.


Agreed, and we'd better be ready to pay for a good program. Underfunded half-assed programs are just going to put them back out in the streets. Of course we either pay for it now or pay $$$$ to house then in jails.


Totally. The youth facilities they send them to, followed by hourly employee monitored 'halfway' houses that they run away from on the reg are a joke. The Youth Rehabilitation Act which gives offender youth in DC ALL SORTS of rights, should have also included actual measures for rehabilitation.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2020 18:22     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
Anonymous wrote:So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.


Agreed, and we'd better be ready to pay for a good program. Underfunded half-assed programs are just going to put them back out in the streets. Of course we either pay for it now or pay $$$$ to house then in jails.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2020 16:03     Subject: Re:Out of Control DC: 15 year old arrested for 24 robbery offenses in last 30 days
So, maybe Councilmember Charles Allen (who is all about youth crime to age 25) could give this a think as part of his restorative justice. Actual reform. Not old fashioned reform schools, but an interim justice system for youth who are on the road to adult criminal careers, where they are housed with others in their age group and must hit certain wickets for release: GED, counseling, supervised community service and job training. This catch and release of kids training to be predators makes no sense for law abiding citizens, or them. That's NOT compassion Charles Allen.