Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there's a bad reputation. People just put up with a lot to be close to the metro and the DC USA build-out.

Columbia Heights was horrible when I moved here 11 years ago and its just as bad today. If you chose to move there knowing that it had 'issues' that's on you.

Now imagine the DCUSA site as a trash-filled vacant lot, the Tivoli complex rotting away, zero new condo buildings and perhaps the worst Giant in DC and you can imagine what it was like 20 years ago, when I lived there. There were basically zero restaurants apart from a few Chinese-food places and (I think) a Subway, few businesses apart from the aforementioned awful Giant and bulletproof-glass liquor stores and next to zero foot traffic after dark on 14th, making it a street to avoid.

So yeah, it's way better than it was. But putting a poorly designed shopping mall and a few cheaply built luxury apartment building there clearly isn't the solution, as we've all seen over the years.

this is not what it looked like 20 years ago.

Different poster: Yes it is. I moved here in 2000 when I was pregnant with our oldest. We now have two kids, still live here and love it. The pandemic has forced me to get my exercise by walking. I’ve really enjoyed taking different routes in our neighborhood and have enjoyed getting to know it better.

It’s not for everyone. If you don’t want to live here, then don’t. But if you need to make yourself feel better by trashing where I and many others live, I feel sorry for you.

I am from DC and very familiar with CH, including working there 20 years ago. It did not look horrible, at all. It needed some development, lots of renovation and metro coming in was great, but the big box stuff went up overnight and is not aesthetically pleasing. If you think they developed that area around the metro nicely or thoughtfully, I question your taste. The big box and the generic apartment buildings don't fit the jazzy 20th /30s vibe of Mt. Pleasant street at all. Obviously you have a vested interest in boosting since you live there and invested, but I would put my energy towards asking for improvements of the new stuff. I'm sure your walks around the neighborhood are appreciating the beautiful old "summer homes" and great old apartment buildings; I'm sure you are not gasping with aesthetic pleasure at the crappy new stuff by the metro.

Anonymous wrote:Nadeau is held in such high regard by her colleagues on the council that they don't even allow her to make decisions about her committees and then she boasts about it.

LOL..

But seriously, this thread and a few others like it may me think its just real estate guys trying to up their chances of:

1) people selling so that they can invest and sell higher in a few months after the change in WH Admin

2) real estate guys trying to drive up the market in suburbs

Both smack of people trying for get some traction on a line of thinking for their own gain

Not reality.

30 year DC resident

Nadeau is held in such high regard by her colleagues on the council that they don't even allow her to make decisions about her committees and then she boasts about it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there's a bad reputation. People just put up with a lot to be close to the metro and the DC USA build-out.

Columbia Heights was horrible when I moved here 11 years ago and its just as bad today. If you chose to move there knowing that it had 'issues' that's on you.

Now imagine the DCUSA site as a trash-filled vacant lot, the Tivoli complex rotting away, zero new condo buildings and perhaps the worst Giant in DC and you can imagine what it was like 20 years ago, when I lived there. There were basically zero restaurants apart from a few Chinese-food places and (I think) a Subway, few businesses apart from the aforementioned awful Giant and bulletproof-glass liquor stores and next to zero foot traffic after dark on 14th, making it a street to avoid.

So yeah, it's way better than it was. But putting a poorly designed shopping mall and a few cheaply built luxury apartment building there clearly isn't the solution, as we've all seen over the years.

this is not what it looked like 20 years ago.

Different poster: Yes it is. I moved here in 2000 when I was pregnant with our oldest. We now have two kids, still live here and love it. The pandemic has forced me to get my exercise by walking. I’ve really enjoyed taking different routes in our neighborhood and have enjoyed getting to know it better.

It’s not for everyone. If you don’t want to live here, then don’t. But if you need to make yourself feel better by trashing where I and many others live, I feel sorry for you.

I worked in CH 20+ years ago and am intimately familiar with it. There was some crime and grime, but it was not as aesthetically challenged as you describe. The development brought in some buzz, but didnt do any aesthetic favors except preserving Tivoli facade.

Was there a massive, ugly vacant lot where DC USA now stands? Yes.

Hell, it wasn't even 20 years ago. It was 15:

https://www.popville.com/2014/06/what-dc-usa-looked-like-in-2005/

Was the Tivoli complex rotting away and unusable? Yes, it closed in 1976.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoli_Theatre_(Washington,_D.C.)

Was there a lack of business besides cheap Chinese food and liquor stores? Yes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there's a bad reputation. People just put up with a lot to be close to the metro and the DC USA build-out.

Columbia Heights was horrible when I moved here 11 years ago and its just as bad today. If you chose to move there knowing that it had 'issues' that's on you.

Now imagine the DCUSA site as a trash-filled vacant lot, the Tivoli complex rotting away, zero new condo buildings and perhaps the worst Giant in DC and you can imagine what it was like 20 years ago, when I lived there. There were basically zero restaurants apart from a few Chinese-food places and (I think) a Subway, few businesses apart from the aforementioned awful Giant and bulletproof-glass liquor stores and next to zero foot traffic after dark on 14th, making it a street to avoid.

So yeah, it's way better than it was. But putting a poorly designed shopping mall and a few cheaply built luxury apartment building there clearly isn't the solution, as we've all seen over the years.

this is not what it looked like 20 years ago.

Different poster: Yes it is. I moved here in 2000 when I was pregnant with our oldest. We now have two kids, still live here and love it. The pandemic has forced me to get my exercise by walking. I’ve really enjoyed taking different routes in our neighborhood and have enjoyed getting to know it better.

It’s not for everyone. If you don’t want to live here, then don’t. But if you need to make yourself feel better by trashing where I and many others live, I feel sorry for you.

I worked in CH 20+ years ago and am intimately familiar with it. There was some crime and grime, but it was not as aesthetically challenged as you describe. The development brought in some buzz, but didnt do any aesthetic favors except preserving Tivoli facade.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there's a bad reputation. People just put up with a lot to be close to the metro and the DC USA build-out.

Columbia Heights was horrible when I moved here 11 years ago and its just as bad today. If you chose to move there knowing that it had 'issues' that's on you.

Now imagine the DCUSA site as a trash-filled vacant lot, the Tivoli complex rotting away, zero new condo buildings and perhaps the worst Giant in DC and you can imagine what it was like 20 years ago, when I lived there. There were basically zero restaurants apart from a few Chinese-food places and (I think) a Subway, few businesses apart from the aforementioned awful Giant and bulletproof-glass liquor stores and next to zero foot traffic after dark on 14th, making it a street to avoid.

So yeah, it's way better than it was. But putting a poorly designed shopping mall and a few cheaply built luxury apartment building there clearly isn't the solution, as we've all seen over the years.

this is not what it looked like 20 years ago.

Different poster: Yes it is. I moved here in 2000 when I was pregnant with our oldest. We now have two kids, still live here and love it. The pandemic has forced me to get my exercise by walking. I’ve really enjoyed taking different routes in our neighborhood and have enjoyed getting to know it better.

It’s not for everyone. If you don’t want to live here, then don’t. But if you need to make yourself feel better by trashing where I and many others live, I feel sorry for you.