Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 19:07     Subject: return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:Upon return to DC would you have kid skip soccer practice for 2 weeks?

Yes OP I would do this.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 19:05     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Yes skip; take care of others
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 19:03     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the rationale behind this. Is it because it's a sleep away camp that you are looking to be super cautious? For example, my kid is training with his current soccer team and it's full contact. If he was to go play with a different group of kids, would the idea be to self quarantine before joining a different group of kids? Because my kid plays soccer with a bunch of different groups of kids every week. Every week, different kids come to the sessions that participates in.



You are the problem
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 18:54     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Asymptomatic*
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 18:54     Subject: return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid is at sleep-away camp. Camp is running at 50% and is entirely outside except for ventilated/screen window cabins. The kids are in groups of 6 in the cabins. Activities are distanced and cabin groups are kept from one another
(doesn't sound much like camp at this rate but that's another story).

Upon return to DC would you have kid skip soccer practice for 2 weeks?
Soccer practice is of course also "distanced".
Thoughts?


So to answer your question, yes your kid should absolutely stay away form team practice for two weeks. And also know how stupid you are.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/quarantine-fatigue-real-and-shaming-people-wont-help/611482/


Oh, logic and shaming don't help and that is why we are at this point as a nation.

Denying and posting narrative pieces won't bring soccer back either, only lower numbers.

Lower the numbers and we can play. Don't do the necessary things and we'll see you here later complaining about the fall season being cancelled.

Seriously, major college sports are delaying entire seasons and you are going to post a article about shaming? Do your effing part.


Uh, yeah, I did, and I do, probably a lot more than you. The suggestions on not shaming obviously did not take so I will be more directly:

1. Based on your rants and raves, you might serve the public interest by taking more risks, not fewer. We would all be better off.

2. All kidding aside, staying at home pushes out the achievement of herd immunity and put a lot of people out of work, some unavoidably, others avoidably. So drop the facile and banal conceptions of common good. In other words, maybe move on from checkers to chess in your thinking if it doesn’t hurt your brain.

3. In that connection, exactly how does staying home and away from the virus not also in your own self-interest? Are you saying that we don’t really need to alter our behavior to reduce deaths? Or are you saying that you would otherwise risk death more, but for the common good, you are risking death less to . . . risk less death? Perhaps a little self-serving after all?

4. You seem to be saying that we should all play less soccer now, so we can play more soccer this fall? Huh? Everything you’ve said makes that no less foolish in the fall. The virus will be present, no vaccine will be available, and we will all still be scratching our heads about whether it is safe to go back into the water.

Or maybe you just don’t like sleep away camps or people named Mr Weinstein.


Mitigating social exposure not only benefits myself but also other people. Perhaps you have a hard time understanding that if I have it and am asymptotic for a week or more I could be spreading it if I’m jus living my life.

By reducing my social contact I both reduce my risk of catching it while also reducing the risk of spreading the disease.

I don’t think you read the herd immunity article thoroughly if you believe the point of the article was to live life, spread the disease in order to develop herd immunity.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 18:01     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Yes!!!

For the love of God...a camp! Sleepaway, kids are all over each other.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 17:48     Subject: return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid is at sleep-away camp. Camp is running at 50% and is entirely outside except for ventilated/screen window cabins. The kids are in groups of 6 in the cabins. Activities are distanced and cabin groups are kept from one another
(doesn't sound much like camp at this rate but that's another story).

Upon return to DC would you have kid skip soccer practice for 2 weeks?
Soccer practice is of course also "distanced".
Thoughts?


So to answer your question, yes your kid should absolutely stay away form team practice for two weeks. And also know how stupid you are.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/quarantine-fatigue-real-and-shaming-people-wont-help/611482/


Oh, logic and shaming don't help and that is why we are at this point as a nation.

Denying and posting narrative pieces won't bring soccer back either, only lower numbers.

Lower the numbers and we can play. Don't do the necessary things and we'll see you here later complaining about the fall season being cancelled.

Seriously, major college sports are delaying entire seasons and you are going to post a article about shaming? Do your effing part.


Uh, yeah, I did, and I do, probably a lot more than you. The suggestions on not shaming obviously did not take so I will be more directly:

1. Based on your rants and raves, you might serve the public interest by taking more risks, not fewer. We would all be better off.

2. All kidding aside, staying at home pushes out the achievement of herd immunity and put a lot of people out of work, some unavoidably, others avoidably. So drop the facile and banal conceptions of common good. In other words, maybe move on from checkers to chess in your thinking if it doesn’t hurt your brain.

3. In that connection, exactly how does staying home and away from the virus not also in your own self-interest? Are you saying that we don’t really need to alter our behavior to reduce deaths? Or are you saying that you would otherwise risk death more, but for the common good, you are risking death less to . . . risk less death? Perhaps a little self-serving after all?

4. You seem to be saying that we should all play less soccer now, so we can play more soccer this fall? Huh? Everything you’ve said makes that no less foolish in the fall. The virus will be present, no vaccine will be available, and we will all still be scratching our heads about whether it is safe to go back into the water.

Or maybe you just don’t like sleep away camps or people named Mr Weinstein.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 17:33     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Enough about soccer for now. How was the sleep away camp Mr. Weinstein ?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 17:26     Subject: return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid is at sleep-away camp. Camp is running at 50% and is entirely outside except for ventilated/screen window cabins. The kids are in groups of 6 in the cabins. Activities are distanced and cabin groups are kept from one another
(doesn't sound much like camp at this rate but that's another story).

Upon return to DC would you have kid skip soccer practice for 2 weeks?
Soccer practice is of course also "distanced".
Thoughts?


So to answer your question, yes your kid should absolutely stay away form team practice for two weeks. And also know how stupid you are.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/quarantine-fatigue-real-and-shaming-people-wont-help/611482/


Oh, logic and shaming don't help and that is why we are at this point as a nation.

Denying and posting narrative pieces won't bring soccer back either, only lower numbers.

Lower the numbers and we can play. Don't do the necessary things and we'll see you here later complaining about the fall season being cancelled.

Seriously, major college sports are delaying entire seasons and you are going to post a article about shaming? Do your effing part.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 17:19     Subject: return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid is at sleep-away camp. Camp is running at 50% and is entirely outside except for ventilated/screen window cabins. The kids are in groups of 6 in the cabins. Activities are distanced and cabin groups are kept from one another
(doesn't sound much like camp at this rate but that's another story).

Upon return to DC would you have kid skip soccer practice for 2 weeks?
Soccer practice is of course also "distanced".
Thoughts?


So to answer your question, yes your kid should absolutely stay away form team practice for two weeks. And also know how stupid you are.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/quarantine-fatigue-real-and-shaming-people-wont-help/611482/
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 16:35     Subject: return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:My kid is at sleep-away camp. Camp is running at 50% and is entirely outside except for ventilated/screen window cabins. The kids are in groups of 6 in the cabins. Activities are distanced and cabin groups are kept from one another
(doesn't sound much like camp at this rate but that's another story).

Upon return to DC would you have kid skip soccer practice for 2 weeks?
Soccer practice is of course also "distanced".
Thoughts?


So to answer your question, yes your kid should absolutely stay away form team practice for two weeks. And also know how stupid you are.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 16:33     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the rationale behind this. Is it because it's a sleep away camp that you are looking to be super cautious? For example, my kid is training with his current soccer team and it's full contact. If he was to go play with a different group of kids, would the idea be to self quarantine before joining a different group of kids? Because my kid plays soccer with a bunch of different groups of kids every week. Every week, different kids come to the sessions that participates in.


What don't you understand? We are the laughing stock of the world because we are prioritizing thinks like kids continuing to play soccer over defeating the virus. We are going to flush our economy down the toilet because of stupid individual choices like yours.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/07/16/i-was-reluctant-sports-mom-until-pandemic-took-baseball-away/?hpid=hp_lifestyle1-8-12_sportsmom1224p-0716%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans



Yes, we all miss sports and we all miss watching our kids play. But rushing things to normal because it is what we want will not be sustainable without a vaccine or effective treatments that can prevent hospitalization.


https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2020/07/coronavirus-herd-immunity/614116/


You know the only way we get to herd immunity, and the only way we have ever achieved herd immunity is through vaccines. And I am willing to bet that you are the type of person who questions vaccines too.

Imagine in 2020 we have people arguing about wearing a mask, coming up with conspiracy theories that BIll Gates is funding vaccine development in order to implant a chip.

Even though you are the worst kind of selfish I still do not wish for you to get sick. I just wish it went both ways.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/14/need-some-good-news-about-covid-19-here-are-six-reasons-optimism/


And none of what the article states means that it is wise, useful or risk free to go to a sleep away camp.

We are so close to being able to have a soccer season and dumb asses like you just want it all right now. While I believe in the six reasons to be optimistic the biggest obstacle is our own selfish behavior.

Perhaps this is the summer to forgo that vacation to Disney. Perhaps this is the summer that instead of a soccer sleep away camp perhaps spend that money on 1 on 1 training. Do you really want to be the parent who has to email the coach that your kid caught Covid shutting down practice for the team because she just had to have a sleepover?

The collective behavior of Covid deniers and "its only 1%" are just making this worse than it needs to be. Covid doesn't care about your worn out talking points. Just modify your behavior, wear a mask and we will be back to a real normal more quickly than dragging your feet.

I'm altering my behavior for the greater good and that you are also benefiting from. I would really appreciate it if you would do the same for me, your team and the rest of us.

All I know, is if we don't have fall soccer it wasn't because I sent my kid to sleep away camp, spent the night at a bar or afternoon at a vineyard, ate out, went to a friends house for a indoor diner party or went to the beach for a week.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 16:12     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the rationale behind this. Is it because it's a sleep away camp that you are looking to be super cautious? For example, my kid is training with his current soccer team and it's full contact. If he was to go play with a different group of kids, would the idea be to self quarantine before joining a different group of kids? Because my kid plays soccer with a bunch of different groups of kids every week. Every week, different kids come to the sessions that participates in.


What don't you understand? We are the laughing stock of the world because we are prioritizing thinks like kids continuing to play soccer over defeating the virus. We are going to flush our economy down the toilet because of stupid individual choices like yours.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/07/16/i-was-reluctant-sports-mom-until-pandemic-took-baseball-away/?hpid=hp_lifestyle1-8-12_sportsmom1224p-0716%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans



Yes, we all miss sports and we all miss watching our kids play. But rushing things to normal because it is what we want will not be sustainable without a vaccine or effective treatments that can prevent hospitalization.


https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2020/07/coronavirus-herd-immunity/614116/


You know the only way we get to herd immunity, and the only way we have ever achieved herd immunity is through vaccines. And I am willing to bet that you are the type of person who questions vaccines too.

Imagine in 2020 we have people arguing about wearing a mask, coming up with conspiracy theories that BIll Gates is funding vaccine development in order to implant a chip.

Even though you are the worst kind of selfish I still do not wish for you to get sick. I just wish it went both ways.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccines/merck-ceo-frazier-says-covid-19-vaccine-hype-a-grave-disservice-to-public
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 16:10     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the rationale behind this. Is it because it's a sleep away camp that you are looking to be super cautious? For example, my kid is training with his current soccer team and it's full contact. If he was to go play with a different group of kids, would the idea be to self quarantine before joining a different group of kids? Because my kid plays soccer with a bunch of different groups of kids every week. Every week, different kids come to the sessions that participates in.


What don't you understand? We are the laughing stock of the world because we are prioritizing thinks like kids continuing to play soccer over defeating the virus. We are going to flush our economy down the toilet because of stupid individual choices like yours.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/07/16/i-was-reluctant-sports-mom-until-pandemic-took-baseball-away/?hpid=hp_lifestyle1-8-12_sportsmom1224p-0716%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans



Yes, we all miss sports and we all miss watching our kids play. But rushing things to normal because it is what we want will not be sustainable without a vaccine or effective treatments that can prevent hospitalization.


https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2020/07/coronavirus-herd-immunity/614116/


You know the only way we get to herd immunity, and the only way we have ever achieved herd immunity is through vaccines. And I am willing to bet that you are the type of person who questions vaccines too.

Imagine in 2020 we have people arguing about wearing a mask, coming up with conspiracy theories that BIll Gates is funding vaccine development in order to implant a chip.

Even though you are the worst kind of selfish I still do not wish for you to get sick. I just wish it went both ways.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/14/need-some-good-news-about-covid-19-here-are-six-reasons-optimism/
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2020 15:50     Subject: Re:return from sleep-away camp, should kid skip soccer practice?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the rationale behind this. Is it because it's a sleep away camp that you are looking to be super cautious? For example, my kid is training with his current soccer team and it's full contact. If he was to go play with a different group of kids, would the idea be to self quarantine before joining a different group of kids? Because my kid plays soccer with a bunch of different groups of kids every week. Every week, different kids come to the sessions that participates in.


What don't you understand? We are the laughing stock of the world because we are prioritizing thinks like kids continuing to play soccer over defeating the virus. We are going to flush our economy down the toilet because of stupid individual choices like yours.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/07/16/i-was-reluctant-sports-mom-until-pandemic-took-baseball-away/?hpid=hp_lifestyle1-8-12_sportsmom1224p-0716%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans



Yes, we all miss sports and we all miss watching our kids play. But rushing things to normal because it is what we want will not be sustainable without a vaccine or effective treatments that can prevent hospitalization.


https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2020/07/coronavirus-herd-immunity/614116/


You know the only way we get to herd immunity, and the only way we have ever achieved herd immunity is through vaccines. And I am willing to bet that you are the type of person who questions vaccines too.

Imagine in 2020 we have people arguing about wearing a mask, coming up with conspiracy theories that BIll Gates is funding vaccine development in order to implant a chip.

Even though you are the worst kind of selfish I still do not wish for you to get sick. I just wish it went both ways.