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Anonymous wrote:To quote a good friend: my child would not want to attend a school where their race is a strike against them.

Also, on interview it will be apparent.

Last but not least, don’t you want your child to be proud of who they are? Dońt teach them to deny their heritage.

For all of these reasons, my child marked Asian on her applications.

(If anything, I think it helped her. She was looking at SLAC’s and many of them struggle with diversity)

I don't think this has anything to do with not being proud of their heritage. It's about avoiding the Asian penalty in schools that in effect have one. Your DD's school clearly didn't have one. Other school in effect do.

But you are literally advising them to pretend, on paper, that they are a different race. You are saying deny who you are. I would never advise my child (who is chinese) to do that. But then again, I put their self esteem over rankings and status.

The thing is that if admissions offices were not hopelessly racist, there would be no need for them to know the applicant's race.

You are hopelessly deaf to the argument that colleges seek diverse communities. Hopelessly.

But then again, you probably think your kid is a failure if they get a B and attend anything but an Ivy league college. We all have our blind spots.

You are hopelessly racist and that is your blind spot.

One thing to take into consideration is that the applications ask a lot of questions about us parents. My DD is half Indian and half white, and she was just going to put "mixed race" and be done. However, her dad's name is obviously Indian, but not only that, he went to undergrad in India, and the applications all require that you put down where your parents went to college. DD also wrote things in her essays that clearly indicated she grew up with her Indian grandparents living in our home. I think it made for a rich narrative of who she was and her essays were really strong.

So there are a lot of other places on the applications where it is very difficult to hide your heritage. But DD also did just fine and is going to a top 20 school. Kids should be honest about who they are - I think that's what pays off in the end because schools want to get to know them for who they are, not who they think the schools want them to be.

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Anonymous wrote:To quote a good friend: my child would not want to attend a school where their race is a strike against them.

Also, on interview it will be apparent.

Last but not least, don’t you want your child to be proud of who they are? Dońt teach them to deny their heritage.

For all of these reasons, my child marked Asian on her applications.

(If anything, I think it helped her. She was looking at SLAC’s and many of them struggle with diversity)

I don't think this has anything to do with not being proud of their heritage. It's about avoiding the Asian penalty in schools that in effect have one. Your DD's school clearly didn't have one. Other school in effect do.

But you are literally advising them to pretend, on paper, that they are a different race. You are saying deny who you are. I would never advise my child (who is chinese) to do that. But then again, I put their self esteem over rankings and status.

The thing is that if admissions offices were not hopelessly racist, there would be no need for them to know the applicant's race.

You are hopelessly deaf to the argument that colleges seek diverse communities. Hopelessly.

But then again, you probably think your kid is a failure if they get a B and attend anything but an Ivy league college. We all have our blind spots.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

You’re comparing and condoning racism against Asian teenagers for being born Asian as equivalent to ordering fries or salad.

No, she is trying to explain to you that progressive colleges like to curate their communities, for optimal learning...but you are too hyperbolic to listen.

No you are trying to justify her racist diatribe as an "explanation". Racism used to "curate communities" in the name of "progressive" is wrong, period. Just as it was racist to "curate" segregated schools and buses for the "optimal learning" of white people.

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Anonymous wrote:To quote a good friend: my child would not want to attend a school where their race is a strike against them.

Also, on interview it will be apparent.

Last but not least, don’t you want your child to be proud of who they are? Dońt teach them to deny their heritage.

For all of these reasons, my child marked Asian on her applications.

(If anything, I think it helped her. She was looking at SLAC’s and many of them struggle with diversity)

I don't think this has anything to do with not being proud of their heritage. It's about avoiding the Asian penalty in schools that in effect have one. Your DD's school clearly didn't have one. Other school in effect do.

But you are literally advising them to pretend, on paper, that they are a different race. You are saying deny who you are. I would never advise my child (who is chinese) to do that. But then again, I put their self esteem over rankings and status.

The thing is that if admissions offices were not hopelessly racist, there would be no need for them to know the applicant's race.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

You’re comparing and condoning racism against Asian teenagers for being born Asian as equivalent to ordering fries or salad.

What racism? I don’t see any racism here.

2nd generation Indian-American parent here. My kids are multiracial, so they could check at least 4 different boxes, depending on the options. I deliberately gave them non-Indian names specifically because of this kind of discrimination (our last name is ethnically vague and could be anything). I think they should check whatever box is most advantageous to them on college applications. If my high school classmate who passes for white but is a quarter black could check the AA box and get into every school she applied to (while white and Asian kids with better qualifications got rejected), why can't my kids play by the same rules and check the box that helps them the most?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

You’re comparing and condoning racism against Asian teenagers for being born Asian as equivalent to ordering fries or salad.

No, she is trying to explain to you that progressive colleges like to curate their communities, for optimal learning...but you are too hyperbolic to listen.

You're right, I can only learn optimally when there are precisely 15% AA students in my class.

You guys are nuts. Just be honest. My daughter is half asian and half white and that is what we put down. She did fine.

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Anonymous wrote:To quote a good friend: my child would not want to attend a school where their race is a strike against them.

Also, on interview it will be apparent.

Last but not least, don’t you want your child to be proud of who they are? Dońt teach them to deny their heritage.

For all of these reasons, my child marked Asian on her applications.

(If anything, I think it helped her. She was looking at SLAC’s and many of them struggle with diversity)

I don't think this has anything to do with not being proud of their heritage. It's about avoiding the Asian penalty in schools that in effect have one. Your DD's school clearly didn't have one. Other school in effect do.

But you are literally advising them to pretend, on paper, that they are a different race. You are saying deny who you are. I would never advise my child (who is chinese) to do that. But then again, I put their self esteem over rankings and status.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

You’re comparing and condoning racism against Asian teenagers for being born Asian as equivalent to ordering fries or salad.

No, she is trying to explain to you that progressive colleges like to curate their communities, for optimal learning...but you are too hyperbolic to listen.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal arts colleges look favorably to students with high stats, Asian or not. Those who do well in SLACs can expect to go anywhere.

What about STEM?

STEM is not the opposite of LAC!

Only top schools can academically afford to admit holistically.

THe daughter who was honest on her app's is a biology major. Lots of SLAC's are strong in STEM. Kids typically get earlier opportunities for research at them, because they are not competing with grad students like at Big Research schools (which we favor for grad school)

My son is half chinese and you'd better believe he's listing white. Thanks, higher ed!

Our daughters were adopted from China (we’re Caucasian) and have a Dutch surname. They’re listing their ethnicity as “bi-racial” because that’s how they identify.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s so sad that an Asian kid feels the need to hide identity because of discrimination. I’m white and I’m very empathetic to this. I’m sorry OP.

There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination. When you choose a salad as your side, you discriminate against the French fries. That isn’t the issue.

I have no problem with colleges that desire a diverse student body effectively putting a cap on how many students of a similar background they will accept.

You’re comparing and condoning racism against Asian teenagers for being born Asian as equivalent to ordering fries or salad.