Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 10:10     Subject: Re:Soccer Is BACK!!

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.


I don't think the return to youth sports is due to economic pressure. It's just not that big a part of the economy as a whole.

The fact is the risk to kids - especially otherwise healthy youth athletes - is extremely low. The risk from kids is really the concern. If I had an elderly relative living in my household, I don't think I'd let my kids play. There is still the risk of increased community spread generally, but in context, this is a relatively small group of people (# of youth athletes playing team sports as a percentage of kids overall) who will be in contact with each other in outdoor settings (where the dispersal rate of the virus is exponentially higher, so the viral load exposure is exponentially lower) for relatively brief amounts of time (< 2 hrs a day, max).

I would be much more concerned about a bunch of kids sitting in a classroom for six hours at a time. Even with masks and reduced class sizes, I think the risk of transmission from reopening schools is much higher.

To the extent we are seeing spikes, 2nd wave, prolonged 1st wave, whatever you want to call it, it's going to be from adults going to restaurants. bars, stores, etc, ... not complying with masking and social distancing policies. It's not going to be from youth sports.


There's certainly significant risk to kids in older age groups. If you have a kid in 16-18 age groups, you should not assume that the risk is low. Here's an article explaining how a beach week-end resulted in 150 Loudoun teens infected. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/loudoun-county-myrtle-beach-spike/65-a1f055bf-8035-41a0-8dfa-ca76cf1cf639
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 08:59     Subject: Re:Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.


I don't think the return to youth sports is due to economic pressure. It's just not that big a part of the economy as a whole.

The fact is the risk to kids - especially otherwise healthy youth athletes - is extremely low. The risk from kids is really the concern. If I had an elderly relative living in my household, I don't think I'd let my kids play. There is still the risk of increased community spread generally, but in context, this is a relatively small group of people (# of youth athletes playing team sports as a percentage of kids overall) who will be in contact with each other in outdoor settings (where the dispersal rate of the virus is exponentially higher, so the viral load exposure is exponentially lower) for relatively brief amounts of time (< 2 hrs a day, max).

I would be much more concerned about a bunch of kids sitting in a classroom for six hours at a time. Even with masks and reduced class sizes, I think the risk of transmission from reopening schools is much higher.

To the extent we are seeing spikes, 2nd wave, prolonged 1st wave, whatever you want to call it, it's going to be from adults going to restaurants. bars, stores, etc, ... not complying with masking and social distancing policies. It's not going to be from youth sports.


I see some merit in your post.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 08:54     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

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Anonymous wrote:It's a relief to see the thought police back out in force to scold anyone being enthusiastic about soccer on a soccer message board. Their job is never done.


If they are out in force to scold about soccer, I can’t wait to see them out in force this fall scolding people for sending their kids to school, even if on some of the limited “return to school” proposals that have been announced.


You’re comparing school to youth soccer? Thanks for the laugh.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 08:08     Subject: Re:Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.


I don't think the return to youth sports is due to economic pressure. It's just not that big a part of the economy as a whole.

The fact is the risk to kids - especially otherwise healthy youth athletes - is extremely low. The risk from kids is really the concern. If I had an elderly relative living in my household, I don't think I'd let my kids play. There is still the risk of increased community spread generally, but in context, this is a relatively small group of people (# of youth athletes playing team sports as a percentage of kids overall) who will be in contact with each other in outdoor settings (where the dispersal rate of the virus is exponentially higher, so the viral load exposure is exponentially lower) for relatively brief amounts of time (< 2 hrs a day, max).

I would be much more concerned about a bunch of kids sitting in a classroom for six hours at a time. Even with masks and reduced class sizes, I think the risk of transmission from reopening schools is much higher.

To the extent we are seeing spikes, 2nd wave, prolonged 1st wave, whatever you want to call it, it's going to be from adults going to restaurants. bars, stores, etc, ... not complying with masking and social distancing policies. It's not going to be from youth sports.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 08:05     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:It's a relief to see the thought police back out in force to scold anyone being enthusiastic about soccer on a soccer message board. Their job is never done.


If they are out in force to scold about soccer, I can’t wait to see them out in force this fall scolding people for sending their kids to school, even if on some of the limited “return to school” proposals that have been announced.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 07:54     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

It's a relief to see the thought police back out in force to scold anyone being enthusiastic about soccer on a soccer message board. Their job is never done.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 07:28     Subject: Re:Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 07:23     Subject: Re:Soccer Is BACK!!

Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 23:37     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

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Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


Yep one positive kid on my kid's team.


I assume of you are referring to teams/clubs locally?


I am sure we will see plenty of positive kids this summer with or without soccer.


Yes, but common sense tells me there will be more kids with COVID-19 if they allow contact sports.


Common sense tells me that absent scarcity in ICUs, the benefits of social and physical activities for kids outweigh the incremental risks. I don’t disagree there will be more cases at the margin.


Until Grandma dies ... WTH people?


Social and physical activities outweigh the risks? There are so many damn physical activities a kid can do inside or in the back yard. Everyone has a phone or can zoom/FaceTime their friends.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 23:24     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


Yep one positive kid on my kid's team.


I assume of you are referring to teams/clubs locally?


I am sure we will see plenty of positive kids this summer with or without soccer.


Yes, but common sense tells me there will be more kids with COVID-19 if they allow contact sports.


Common sense tells me that absent scarcity in ICUs, the benefits of social and physical activities for kids outweigh the incremental risks. I don’t disagree there will be more cases at the margin.


Until Grandma dies ... WTH people?
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 22:59     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


Yep one positive kid on my kid's team.


I assume of you are referring to teams/clubs locally?


I am sure we will see plenty of positive kids this summer with or without soccer.


Yes, but common sense tells me there will be more kids with COVID-19 if they allow contact sports.


Common sense tells me that absent scarcity in ICUs, the benefits of social and physical activities for kids outweigh the incremental risks. I don’t disagree there will be more cases at the margin.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 22:17     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


Yep one positive kid on my kid's team.


I assume of you are referring to teams/clubs locally?


I am sure we will see plenty of positive kids this summer with or without soccer.


Yes, but common sense tells me there will be more kids with COVID-19 if they allow contact sports.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 21:58     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

It will be called corona style, new style of soccer, all offense and no defense.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 21:38     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


Yep one positive kid on my kid's team.


I assume of you are referring to teams/clubs locally?


I am sure we will see plenty of positive kids this summer with or without soccer.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 21:04     Subject: Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


Yep one positive kid on my kid's team.


I assume of you are referring to teams/clubs locally?