Anonymous
Post 07/13/2020 15:58     Subject: UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:How are tryouts going today? Any feedback. I have to work today


COVID-19 is happy....
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2020 15:55     Subject: UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:How are tryouts going today? Any feedback. I have to work today


Sounds like some SJC parents are upset.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2020 14:37     Subject: UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
How are tryouts going today? Any feedback. I have to work today
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2020 12:24     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
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Anonymous wrote:There was a 2021 LSM a few years ago who didn’t even go to the DC tryouts, but still made the team. Very political.


This is just not true. I’m not saying they’re not any politics, but this is false. My son is a 21 and plays w all the top kids in area at that age. He knows the kids who were the poles on those teams (plays with many of them). He said this isn’t true. Maybe it was a different class, but it certainly wasn’t the 21 class.


The young man is committed to an Ivy, and attends a Catholic high school. Now you know who I am talking about.


Yes, I do. And he was at tryouts. That class has had 3 years of teams. He has been on two of them.


And he is a phenomenal player who absolutely deserved to be on the teams.
Not arguing about how good/amazing/fantastic he is when he shows up... are you saying he's attended tryouts for every UA team he's made? Some, not all?
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2020 12:09     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a 2021 LSM a few years ago who didn’t even go to the DC tryouts, but still made the team. Very political.


This is just not true. I’m not saying they’re not any politics, but this is false. My son is a 21 and plays w all the top kids in area at that age. He knows the kids who were the poles on those teams (plays with many of them). He said this isn’t true. Maybe it was a different class, but it certainly wasn’t the 21 class.


The young man is committed to an Ivy, and attends a Catholic high school. Now you know who I am talking about.


Yes, I do. And he was at tryouts. That class has had 3 years of teams. He has been on two of them.


And he is a phenomenal player who absolutely deserved to be on the teams.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2020 11:58     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a 2021 LSM a few years ago who didn’t even go to the DC tryouts, but still made the team. Very political.


This is just not true. I’m not saying they’re not any politics, but this is false. My son is a 21 and plays w all the top kids in area at that age. He knows the kids who were the poles on those teams (plays with many of them). He said this isn’t true. Maybe it was a different class, but it certainly wasn’t the 21 class.


The young man is committed to an Ivy, and attends a Catholic high school. Now you know who I am talking about.


Yes, I do. And he was at tryouts. That class has had 3 years of teams. He has been on two of them.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 23:14     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a 2021 LSM a few years ago who didn’t even go to the DC tryouts, but still made the team. Very political.


This is just not true. I’m not saying they’re not any politics, but this is false. My son is a 21 and plays w all the top kids in area at that age. He knows the kids who were the poles on those teams (plays with many of them). He said this isn’t true. Maybe it was a different class, but it certainly wasn’t the 21 class.


The young man is committed to an Ivy, and attends a Catholic high school. Now you know who I am talking about.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 07:38     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was a 2021 LSM a few years ago who didn’t even go to the DC tryouts, but still made the team. Very political.


This is just not true. I’m not saying they’re not any politics, but this is false. My son is a 21 and plays w all the top kids in area at that age. He knows the kids who were the poles on those teams (plays with many of them). He said this isn’t true. Maybe it was a different class, but it certainly wasn’t the 21 class.


My son was a 2019 and the same thing happened with the 2019 team. A kid didn't even come and made the team. Nominated by his HS coach.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2020 07:33     Subject: UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
No way an anonymous poster would claim something here that is not true. That never happens
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 22:21     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:There was a 2021 LSM a few years ago who didn’t even go to the DC tryouts, but still made the team. Very political.


This is just not true. I’m not saying they’re not any politics, but this is false. My son is a 21 and plays w all the top kids in area at that age. He knows the kids who were the poles on those teams (plays with many of them). He said this isn’t true. Maybe it was a different class, but it certainly wasn’t the 21 class.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2020 13:51     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:It is 100% political, with favors, nepotism and paybacks galore. Sure, some players are the best and absolutely deseve to be there. Others, not a chance. You can tell by who watching for who plays in the games - some never go in or are in only when team is way up - and who makes plays. It is obvious to anyone paying attention. Unconnected club and high school coaches make a huge, public stink and then get the gig the following year and they rig it themselves too. Its a ridiculous cycle. The only reason anyone cares is because it looks good listed by a player's name. The colleges should demand it either be cleaned up or discontinued as it makes some players seem far better than they are.


College coaches don't care who is picked and who isn't. They watch for themselves and make their own evaluations. Having gone through it with my own son (he made a team 3 out of 4 possible years), I would say they get it about 85% correct.

There are like 1 to 3 kids that you would question every year. Generally, it felt like they had to add a kid cause he was a public school kid from MD or VA, or balance out the fact that the best HS club will have the most players on the team. And in my son's experience, I would say those kids do seem to not play quite as much (in particular, in the playoffs or against some of the bigger regions). But he had a great time, made some strong friendships that he still workout with when he is home for the summer and loves to play against them in college.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 13:13     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
It is 100% political, with favors, nepotism and paybacks galore. Sure, some players are the best and absolutely deseve to be there. Others, not a chance. You can tell by who watching for who plays in the games - some never go in or are in only when team is way up - and who makes plays. It is obvious to anyone paying attention. Unconnected club and high school coaches make a huge, public stink and then get the gig the following year and they rig it themselves too. Its a ridiculous cycle. The only reason anyone cares is because it looks good listed by a player's name. The colleges should demand it either be cleaned up or discontinued as it makes some players seem far better than they are.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 12:29     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:Individuals selecting the regional teams are noted on the web site, so it is easy to understand which clubs they represent. UA states these coaches can not nominate their own players. So, if true, how do kids from these respective clubs make the team when their own club is not considered a top club team in the area? In some cases the players are deserving. They are a strong players who opted not to play for a top club for whatever reason.

Someone made the comment you will not make the team unless your coach is making the selections. Local players all know each other and have a good idea who are the strongest players. Club players talk about who they want to add to their teams each season and for our respective area no players are doing this about players from the club that is representing the region on the selection committee. It will become obvious something is up if a lot of players from a club not considered one of the top clubs in the area make the UA regional team. One would hope the coaches know this and will focus on making the right selections based on talent, not who they know.

Politics aside, hopefully teams can be formed from, players and families can travel, and the event can take place this year. Players and families just want to get back playing and enjoying a sport they love.
Some of the coaches are HS coaches (not club) who add their players (and even their own child who isn't even a starter) to the call back list. It showcases the kids that private school/club coaches want to profile but the blind tryout stuff is B.S. - it's who knows/wants a kid before they even step on the field, not how well they play that day. Those UA AA coaches get nothing from choosing a talented kid who doesn't play for their school or club - at the end of the day, no one remembers or cares who won what during the event.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 11:42     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Individuals selecting the regional teams are noted on the web site, so it is easy to understand which clubs they represent. UA states these coaches can not nominate their own players. So, if true, how do kids from these respective clubs make the team when their own club is not considered a top club team in the area? In some cases the players are deserving. They are a strong players who opted not to play for a top club for whatever reason.

Someone made the comment you will not make the team unless your coach is making the selections. Local players all know each other and have a good idea who are the strongest players. Club players talk about who they want to add to their teams each season and for our respective area no players are doing this about players from the club that is representing the region on the selection committee. It will become obvious something is up if a lot of players from a club not considered one of the top clubs in the area make the UA regional team. One would hope the coaches know this and will focus on making the right selections based on talent, not who they know.

Politics aside, hopefully teams can be formed from, players and families can travel, and the event can take place this year. Players and families just want to get back playing and enjoying a sport they love.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2020 10:28     Subject: Re:UA All-American Tryouts and Tournament?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There was an Inside Lacrosse podcast last fall where Corrigan basically admitted that the most of the spots on the teams are selected before the event even starts. That said, so long as the player goes into the event knowing the selections are rigged ahead of time, and just has fun, it’s a good event to attend.


For the girls side, individuals who have coached UA teams have privately stated something similar. Mentioning it is a very political process. But also noting it can be a worthwhile experience if you go into the event with the right expectations. Basically, pay money with the expectation of spending a day with strong players from your age group. Those who make the team may not be the best players, but collectively those who attend are some of the better players for individual classes.