Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.
I’m tired of the maligning. Arlington does not teach garbage long ball soccer. check out any of the highlights at the link. Not all but most of these girls have played for Arlington their entire soccer careers and for Mo the last couple of years. https://www.hudl.com/team/v2/351021/Arlington-Girls-U16-04s/team
This is just for the girls idea. It’s a structural problem at Arlington. At the younger ages, you need a lower coach to player ratio. One coach and an assistant with 24-26 players u12 and under does not work. You lose too many potentially good players and many players do not develop properly. You see consistent sloppy or bad technique which is not corrected. At that age, it should be one coach for 8-10 players. You just can not teach technical skills in a big group like that.
U12 and under is about individual skill development. The majority of practice should be about building technical skill and small side games working on those skills. It is bullsh#t to say you have to get that outside the club at that age. U13 and up the emphasis changes to team development. Coaches are not teaching technical skill and the coach to player ratio should increase.
Arlington has a huge pool of players at u9. This pool is not developed well. By u12/u13 the average level of technical skill is well below where it should be.
Spanish clubs do not spend time on skill development, it is expected. This is why we are a terrible soccer nation. We honestly believe that starting skill training at 8-9 years old three hours a week is enough to develop players who are fluent with the ball is ridiculous.
No travel program should spend time on skill development. The practices should be challenging enough to improve technical skills but not be the focus of practice.
Possession tactics can be implemented at much younger ages without it being obvious that tactics are being taught.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is a choice between winning or developing.
To develop a creative player with vision and a team with vision within possession
You need to let them experience the patterns of play over and over so they come to recognize
The different patterns and opportunities.
Possession with intent is an exceptional style that requires technical and vision to play
It requires knowledge and courage to coach it.
Our team took the challenge at U9 and U10 and at U11 it was almost unfair the way our team
could play at a basic possession level, the keys being they were able to receive across body, use first touch from pressure, possess under pressure, look up,
make decisions, and play with vision of where the second pass should go or come from.
Our team consistently beats teams now that are twice our size.
Without possession we would get beat down still.
Most refs note our play and are correct that the next step is speed of play.
Possession requires a long term commitment that most are not willing or able to make
Barca can do it. Not every one else knows how or can commit to it.
Very few in the US even understand the basics: it is not really about passing it just looks like that,
It is about creating and exploiting space.
If you have Abby Wambach or Alec Morgan then yeah let Rapinoe blast it in from the left wing all day
But watching Tobin Heath take on 2 defenders and draw them out to create space for a nice cross on the ground
Is really possession at its best.
To each their own, the past and the future both have their place in the game
Impressive. What team is this?
No mystery if we are talking boys U12. Hard to tell which gender.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.
I’m tired of the maligning. Arlington does not teach garbage long ball soccer. check out any of the highlights at the link. Not all but most of these girls have played for Arlington their entire soccer careers and for Mo the last couple of years. https://www.hudl.com/team/v2/351021/Arlington-Girls-U16-04s/team
This is just for the girls idea. It’s a structural problem at Arlington. At the younger ages, you need a lower coach to player ratio. One coach and an assistant with 24-26 players u12 and under does not work. You lose too many potentially good players and many players do not develop properly. You see consistent sloppy or bad technique which is not corrected. At that age, it should be one coach for 8-10 players. You just can not teach technical skills in a big group like that.
U12 and under is about individual skill development. The majority of practice should be about building technical skill and small side games working on those skills. It is bullsh#t to say you have to get that outside the club at that age. U13 and up the emphasis changes to team development. Coaches are not teaching technical skill and the coach to player ratio should increase.
Arlington has a huge pool of players at u9. This pool is not developed well. By u12/u13 the average level of technical skill is well below where it should be.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.
I’m tired of the maligning. Arlington does not teach garbage long ball soccer. check out any of the highlights at the link. Not all but most of these girls have played for Arlington their entire soccer careers and for Mo the last couple of years. https://www.hudl.com/team/v2/351021/Arlington-Girls-U16-04s/team
Anonymous wrote:At 13:30, the announcer says - PDA last season went 32-0, and outscored the opposition 216 "goals for" to 19 "goals against"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.
I’m tired of the maligning. Arlington does not teach garbage long ball soccer. check out any of the highlights at the link. Not all but most of these girls have played for Arlington their entire soccer careers and for Mo the last couple of years. https://www.hudl.com/team/v2/351021/Arlington-Girls-U16-04s/team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is a choice between winning or developing.
To develop a creative player with vision and a team with vision within possession
You need to let them experience the patterns of play over and over so they come to recognize
The different patterns and opportunities.
Possession with intent is an exceptional style that requires technical and vision to play
It requires knowledge and courage to coach it.
Our team took the challenge at U9 and U10 and at U11 it was almost unfair the way our team
could play at a basic possession level, the keys being they were able to receive across body, use first touch from pressure, possess under pressure, look up,
make decisions, and play with vision of where the second pass should go or come from.
Our team consistently beats teams now that are twice our size.
Without possession we would get beat down still.
Most refs note our play and are correct that the next step is speed of play.
Possession requires a long term commitment that most are not willing or able to make
Barca can do it. Not every one else knows how or can commit to it.
Very few in the US even understand the basics: it is not really about passing it just looks like that,
It is about creating and exploiting space.
If you have Abby Wambach or Alec Morgan then yeah let Rapinoe blast it in from the left wing all day
But watching Tobin Heath take on 2 defenders and draw them out to create space for a nice cross on the ground
Is really possession at its best.
To each their own, the past and the future both have their place in the game
Impressive. What team is this?
Anonymous wrote:It is a choice between winning or developing.
To develop a creative player with vision and a team with vision within possession
You need to let them experience the patterns of play over and over so they come to recognize
The different patterns and opportunities.
Possession with intent is an exceptional style that requires technical and vision to play
It requires knowledge and courage to coach it.
Our team took the challenge at U9 and U10 and at U11 it was almost unfair the way our team
could play at a basic possession level, the keys being they were able to receive across body, use first touch from pressure, possess under pressure, look up,
make decisions, and play with vision of where the second pass should go or come from.
Our team consistently beats teams now that are twice our size.
Without possession we would get beat down still.
Most refs note our play and are correct that the next step is speed of play.
Possession requires a long term commitment that most are not willing or able to make
Barca can do it. Not every one else knows how or can commit to it.
Very few in the US even understand the basics: it is not really about passing it just looks like that,
It is about creating and exploiting space.
If you have Abby Wambach or Alec Morgan then yeah let Rapinoe blast it in from the left wing all day
But watching Tobin Heath take on 2 defenders and draw them out to create space for a nice cross on the ground
Is really possession at its best.
To each their own, the past and the future both have their place in the game
Anonymous wrote:It’s not really possession vs kickball. Its the modern game vs the game from the 20 to 30 years ago. Remember it’s middle and highshcool soccer. You really do not need to be a well around, high skill, versatile player to have an impact at this level.
To play the way they play at Liverpool, Barca(both examples of the modern game) or the Barca girls u15, you need to have skilled, high IQ, versatile players. This is not what they select for at u9(aggression followed by speed or physicality). The kids who think are not always aggressive because they see the game differently.
You can see the change happening on the WNT. The older players are very linear vs some of the younger player. It’s happening in the college ranks but slowly. Too many old coaches hanging on. UNC lost to Stanford. UNC style play is not modern(or very entertaining).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.
On a typical travel team, how many parents truly understand soccer? And do they really value technical skills and possession Soccer? Or do they just understand wins/losses?
We all know the answer. Wins. Hence, youth coaches don’t risk wins for the future development of the kids cause parents might pull their DC from the team. Sad but I think it reality.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.
On a typical travel team, how many parents truly understand soccer? And do they really value technical skills and possession Soccer? Or do they just understand wins/losses?
We all know the answer. Wins. Hence, youth coaches don’t risk wins for the future development of the kids cause parents might pull their DC from the team. Sad but I think it reality.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see the same old clowns are posting about how poor US soccer is. Your dull.
Anyhow, the answer depends on the coach. I’ve seen girls at U10 possess the ball and seen U18 play kick ball. It’s all about the coach.
Completely agree. There is a group of people here that criticize the WNT for not playing a possession style, while singing the praises of a more possession-based or technical team like Brazil on the men’s and women’s side. Of course, those people seem to forget that, in the last 20 years, the Brazilian women finished in the top 3 of a World Cup only once (2nd in 2007) and same for the Brazilian men (1st in 2002).
At the end of the day, it is about winning, and there are a variety of ways a soccer team can do so. Give me UNC’s titles in college soccer or the WNT’s domination in WCs, vs watching Spain play 1,000 back passes and square balls and lose to a pathetic team like Russia in the first knockout round of the 2018 World Cup.
That’s not exactly a brave position to take in this country or area. And no. At earlier ages it is not about winning exclusively or primarily. This is the garbage that gets taught at clubs like Arlington in younger ages and holds kids back. Clubs should produce kids who are comfortable in possession even when it costs games, at least on top teams. Otherwise you are teaching them nothing but cowardice. I don’t believe in tiki-taka or any system dogmatically. But the crap we see from many top teams who could do better with younger teams is truly remarkable. So yes, WNT should play to their strengths now and develop kids who can continue maintaining athletic superiority while striving for something closer to technical parity. You do the latter by developing your kids properly.