My guess is school opening decisinos will be left to counties starting on 5/15, and MoCo will remain closed through end of school year, while places with few infections (Garrett County had 4 total) will re-open.

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Why do you say that?
Our numbers have not gone down significantly at all, because there are still too many people out and about, covered under the "essential" exception.
And since there is no treatment and no vaccine, a month from now, nothing will have changed at all.
So either you say "the heck with it" and open, with a ton of deaths, or you say "same old same old let's continue staying in place", or alternate the two (which will likely happen)... until the vaccine is distributed.

Time will not make this magically go away. This is my point.

All the disadvantages of a stay-at-home order, but few of the advantages.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

Agreed. If Maryland doesn't start stage 1 by June 1st there will be a major revolt. I trust Gov. Hogan will do the right thing and open by June 1st - if not before.

June 1st seems pretty reasonable to me to start the re-opening. A month from now, we will be in a way better place.

Why do you say that?
Our numbers have not gone down significantly at all, because there are still too many people out and about, covered under the "essential" exception.
And since there is no treatment and no vaccine, a month from now, nothing will have changed at all.
So either you say "the heck with it" and open, with a ton of deaths, or you say "same old same old let's continue staying in place", or alternate the two (which will likely happen)... until the vaccine is distributed.

Time will not make this magically go away. This is my point.

I agree - if the health data supports re-opening, we should re-open. If not, we shouldn't. For those PPs who think that we've been social distancing long enough, do you think that we can just tell the virus "hey, we're having economic issues and we all want haircuts, so could you just...not infect us?"

Viruses don't care what's politically palatable, nor do they care what unemployment numbers are, nor do they respond to protests. We need to make decisions based on the reality we live in.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

Agreed. If Maryland doesn't start stage 1 by June 1st there will be a major revolt. I trust Gov. Hogan will do the right thing and open by June 1st - if not before.

June 1st seems pretty reasonable to me to start the re-opening. A month from now, we will be in a way better place.

If we are, then we should start opening. If not, we shouldn't.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

Agreed. If Maryland doesn't start stage 1 by June 1st there will be a major revolt. I trust Gov. Hogan will do the right thing and open by June 1st - if not before.

June 1st seems pretty reasonable to me to start the re-opening. A month from now, we will be in a way better place.

Why do you say that?
Our numbers have not gone down significantly at all, because there are still too many people out and about, covered under the "essential" exception.
And since there is no treatment and no vaccine, a month from now, nothing will have changed at all.
So either you say "the heck with it" and open, with a ton of deaths, or you say "same old same old let's continue staying in place", or alternate the two (which will likely happen)... until the vaccine is distributed.

Time will not make this magically go away. This is my point.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

It's too bad about math education. It's really left some people unable to understand numbers.
History education left out the definition of a pandemic and that left a lot of people unable to comprehend what is happening.

Tell us, please, what is happening, other than declining hospitalizations and deaths?

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

Agreed. If Maryland doesn't start stage 1 by June 1st there will be a major revolt. I trust Gov. Hogan will do the right thing and open by June 1st - if not before.

June 1st seems pretty reasonable to me to start the re-opening. A month from now, we will be in a way better place.

I have heard they are going back on alternating days. it is going to be a mess.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

Agreed. If Maryland doesn't start stage 1 by June 1st there will be a major revolt. I trust Gov. Hogan will do the right thing and open by June 1st - if not before.

I really don't know what went wrong with you for you to act this way, whether you're trolling or genuinely believe what you're posting.

Anonymous wrote:I’m hearing stage 1 earlier. The trend has been going down or relative plateau on key metrics for MD for past few days (Tuesday is always a blip due to weekend reporting) Cases are NOT the metric for stage 1 for MD since they are increasing testing by definition cases rise especially with universal testing at nursing homes. ICU, hospitalizations and deaths are key metrics

Agree likely distance learning for rest of year.

But Hogan has been very clear that testing and tracing are another major part of the requirements for opening, and we're not there yet on either of those. He's admitted we still don't have the ability to use a lot of those 500,000 test kits because they're still sourcing swabs and reagents. And they're still working to hire people to do contract tracing.

That's why I think June is more reasonable for Phase 1. If hospitalizations stay down, and Virginia's reopening doesn't cause spillover spikes in MD, by that point they should have the infrastructure in place to test more widely than they're doing now, beyond just hotspots like nursing homes and packing plants. If done correctly, they could still be in Phase 2 in time to get child care facilities open (with enhanced safety measures) before the end of the month.

A few loud idiots want to re-open. Hogan has done a good job of acknowledging their concerns while continuing to act responsibly and listening to actual experts. I don't see any "major revolt" unless you mean a couple dozen pickup trucks with people who should be arrested for breaking Maryland law.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

Agreed. If Maryland doesn't start stage 1 by June 1st there will be a major revolt. I trust Gov. Hogan will do the right thing and open by June 1st - if not before.

82% of Americans oppose re-opening movie theaters, 78% oppose re-opening gyms, 74% oppose re-opening dine-in restaurants and nail salons, 70% oppose re-opening gun stores, 69% oppose re-opening barber shops/hair salons, 66% oppose re-opening retail stores like clothing stores, 59% oppose re-opening golf courses.

A majority of Americans oppose re-opening these kinds of businesses in states that have loosened restrictions as well as in states that have not.

63% of Americans are either very worried or somewhat worried about getting the virus and becoming seriously ill.

31% of Americans says that in their own communities, the worst is behind them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/americans-widely-oppose-reopening-most-businesses-despite-easing-of-restrictions-in-some-states-post-u-md-poll-finds/2020/05/04/495ddc3a-8e36-11ea-9e23-6914ee410a5f_story.html

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

Agreed. If Maryland doesn't start stage 1 by June 1st there will be a major revolt. I trust Gov. Hogan will do the right thing and open by June 1st - if not before.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.

It's too bad about math education. It's really left some people unable to understand numbers.
History education left out the definition of a pandemic and that left a lot of people unable to comprehend what is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:No rumors, but reading the tea leaves, Hogan is itching to be able to go to Stage 1. This would lift strict stay-at-home orders and start to allow some flexibility around movement, outdoors activities and businesses that can operate with strict distancing rules. He has been talking about looking for a plateau in hospitalizations for weeks now. A neighbor started a job at one of the testing labs doing data entry, and he said a lot of tests are coming in, so the test everyone in nursing homes with cases has been implemented. I think they will announced distance learning for the rest of the year for schools, and that Hogan is aiming for June 1 for stage 1, even if he doesn't say it yet. (I think he'll wait until after Memorial Day, so that people aren't ridiculous right away with gatherings.)

June 1st, that is ridiculously large for stage 1. Not going to fly.

Ridiculously late, the hospitals are ready to go with elective surgeries that have already been postponed for two months.