Anonymous wrote:Yes. You always have the option to do that as long as the work is turned in. I am in a different district and that is what I do.

Anonymous wrote:Many of the upper ES assignments are on google slides and it takes us a lot of time trying to manipulate the text boxes or the arrows or the protractors or the rulers or whatever shapes they tell us to use. I step in when I see my kid wasting a lot of time on the slides trying to move stuff or change the size to fit in the text or rotate a shape to the correct degree etc and it makes me mad that I am wasting my time doing this stupid stuff. Sometimes it takes me a lot of time and I am an IT professional.The actual Math/LA/SS/Science work is easy for my kid. Its all the other stuff that eats up a lot of time. Why can't the teachers just have the kids write down their answers using paper and pencil and have them take photos and send that?

Having received many dark, illegible, blurry, unopenable, or disturbingly inappropriate images from adult coworkers attempting to submit photos of handmade documents from home the past two months, I understand why Google Slides.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and I hate, hate, hate Google Slides. Actually I hate all the Google doc stuff. Our school system insists we use those products.

I think a big part of the reliance on Google stuff is that none of the leadership know how to use anything else. They also like that they can control all our folders and look at them when they want. Unfortunately they screw it up and accidentally modify documents or move them instead of just making a copy. And God only knows that the people in charge of PD don't know how to use any of it. It doesn't help that they aren't very smart, have never taught and don't have any ability to understand what teachers need.

We're stuck all the way around and it sucks big time.

I wonder who teachers can go to to try to change this. Would it be a school board topic? It seems as though now is the time to really get a good DL plan going over the next 3 months in preparation for the possibility DL will need to be implemented in the fall or sometime in fall and winter.

FP back. I agree with you. We don't know to whom we need to go to make changes. However, I can assure you that we're bringing it up at all the various meetings we attend. Google makes good products...for adults. What we're being told to do is to take a square pegged child need and try to shove it into a round holed adult product. It just isn't going to work as well as anyone would hope.

The short answer is that there is no perfect product. The long answer is that there are programs out there that have components that would be very helpful yet we either are not allowed to use them or they are too expensive for the school system to consider or we need a way to show the children how to use them. In general I believe the teachers I know are doing the best they can we the parameters in place. This all happened very quickly and there is quite a learning curve for all of us. We appreciate the help of parents as we work through all of this. In the meantime, you get clunky lessons with difficult-to-manipulate tools on made-for-adult products. It is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and I hate, hate, hate Google Slides. Actually I hate all the Google doc stuff. Our school system insists we use those products.

I think a big part of the reliance on Google stuff is that none of the leadership know how to use anything else. They also like that they can control all our folders and look at them when they want. Unfortunately they screw it up and accidentally modify documents or move them instead of just making a copy. And God only knows that the people in charge of PD don't know how to use any of it. It doesn't help that they aren't very smart, have never taught and don't have any ability to understand what teachers need.

We're stuck all the way around and it sucks big time.

I wonder who teachers can go to to try to change this. Would it be a school board topic? It seems as though now is the time to really get a good DL plan going over the next 3 months in preparation for the possibility DL will need to be implemented in the fall or sometime in fall and winter.

What would you prefer they use for assignments? Paper packets?
Remember, this county hates textbooks, so no we can’t have kids do assignments with texts or workbooks.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and I hate, hate, hate Google Slides. Actually I hate all the Google doc stuff. Our school system insists we use those products.

I think a big part of the reliance on Google stuff is that none of the leadership know how to use anything else. They also like that they can control all our folders and look at them when they want. Unfortunately they screw it up and accidentally modify documents or move them instead of just making a copy. And God only knows that the people in charge of PD don't know how to use any of it. It doesn't help that they aren't very smart, have never taught and don't have any ability to understand what teachers need.

We're stuck all the way around and it sucks big time.

I wonder who teachers can go to to try to change this. Would it be a school board topic? It seems as though now is the time to really get a good DL plan going over the next 3 months in preparation for the possibility DL will need to be implemented in the fall or sometime in fall and winter.

I'm a teacher and I hate, hate, hate Google Slides. Actually I hate all the Google doc stuff. Our school system insists we use those products.

I think a big part of the reliance on Google stuff is that none of the leadership know how to use anything else. They also like that they can control all our folders and look at them when they want. Unfortunately they screw it up and accidentally modify documents or move them instead of just making a copy. And God only knows that the people in charge of PD don't know how to use any of it. It doesn't help that they aren't very smart, have never taught and don't have any ability to understand what teachers need.

We're stuck all the way around and it sucks big time.

OP, I am right there with you. The people who think that it’s just a matter of figuring out how to use Google Slides or that the kids should just figure it out themselves don’t understand the snafus that some of the kids are dealing with, apparently. Links that don’t work, a Flipgrid that doesn’t open, slides that the kid is supposed to manipulate in ways that just don’t work, uneditable slides that can only be worked with if you make a copy (but that isn’t in the instructions), directions to do the work one in place but directions elsewhere to do all the exact same work in a Google form, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you?

Your child has probably been using Google Slides all year, and knows how to use it. THEY are the ones that have the work to do, NOT you. Yes, your child wastes time doing assignments. So did you when you were their age. Don't micromanage!!

No. My kid was not using Google Slides all year! It only started with the online learning. This was not about the actual academic work. Did you even read the post? This was about little kids having to waste time on manipulating shapes and text in the hyperdoc and getting frustrated with it. And about parents having to jump in to help because the kid does not want to turn in an incomplete hyperdoc.

NP. I keep having to do this too. The geometry unit has been especially painful

I’m not the poster either of you are responding to, but how old are your kids? My 3rd and 6th graders are not having issues or they are not perfectionists and not asking for help. It’s good your children are learning these skills now since they will surely need to know how to move around text boxes and edit online documents in middle school. Google docs will be used a lot in school. Think if it as they are learning computer skills which will be more valuable than the end of year academics.

2nd, and yes she will need these skills, but she could learn them faster if she had different foundations that she doesn’t need yet.

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you?

Your child has probably been using Google Slides all year, and knows how to use it. THEY are the ones that have the work to do, NOT you. Yes, your child wastes time doing assignments. So did you when you were their age. Don't micromanage!!

No. My kid was not using Google Slides all year! It only started with the online learning. This was not about the actual academic work. Did you even read the post? This was about little kids having to waste time on manipulating shapes and text in the hyperdoc and getting frustrated with it. And about parents having to jump in to help because the kid does not want to turn in an incomplete hyperdoc.

NP. I keep having to do this too. The geometry unit has been especially painful

True. lol[b]

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you?

Your child has probably been using Google Slides all year, and knows how to use it. THEY are the ones that have the work to do, NOT you. Yes, your child wastes time doing assignments. So did you when you were their age. Don't micromanage!!

No. My kid was not using Google Slides all year! It only started with the online learning. This was not about the actual academic work. Did you even read the post? This was about little kids having to waste time on manipulating shapes and text in the hyperdoc and getting frustrated with it. And about parents having to jump in to help because the kid does not want to turn in an incomplete hyperdoc.

NP. I keep having to do this too. The geometry unit has been especially painful

I’m not the poster either of you are responding to, but how old are your kids? My 3rd and 6th graders are not having issues or they are not perfectionists and not asking for help. It’s good your children are learning these skills now since they will surely need to know how to move around text boxes and edit online documents in middle school. Google docs will be used a lot in school. Think if it as they are learning computer skills which will be more valuable than the end of year academics.

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you?

Your child has probably been using Google Slides all year, and knows how to use it. THEY are the ones that have the work to do, NOT you. Yes, your child wastes time doing assignments. So did you when you were their age. Don't micromanage!!

No. My kid was not using Google Slides all year! It only started with the online learning. This was not about the actual academic work. Did you even read the post? This was about little kids having to waste time on manipulating shapes and text in the hyperdoc and getting frustrated with it. And about parents having to jump in to help because the kid does not want to turn in an incomplete hyperdoc.

NP. I keep having to do this too. The geometry unit has been especially painful

Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you?

Your child has probably been using Google Slides all year, and knows how to use it. THEY are the ones that have the work to do, NOT you. Yes, your child wastes time doing assignments. So did you when you were their age. Don't micromanage!!

No. My kid was not using Google Slides all year! It only started with the online learning. This was not about the actual academic work. Did you even read the post? This was about little kids having to waste time on manipulating shapes and text in the hyperdoc and getting frustrated with it. And about parents having to jump in to help because the kid does not want to turn in an incomplete hyperdoc.

What is wrong with you?

Your child has probably been using Google Slides all year, and knows how to use it. THEY are the ones that have the work to do, NOT you. Yes, your child wastes time doing assignments. So did you when you were their age. Don't micromanage!!

My ES kids are using google class rooms assignments -some are slides. It is helping with hand eye coordination for sure. I have to say I think it is actually better than what my MS kid is doing for some classes. MS kid actually has to take a picture of their work then attach it into blackboard to submit. Teachers actually open them up(and I assume blow them up to see) and make comments within the attachment.

Anonymous wrote:Why are you helping with this? Have your child do whatever they can do and submit. Mine like google classroom because they can easily keep track of what is assigned. Neither have asked for assistance and I have no idea if they format correctly. I’m not looking at their assignments. They are in elementary school. They haven’t taken more than 2 hours per day and I haven’t gotten any emails saying they aren’t participating.

Speaking for my kid (I’m not OP), she gets really stressed out when she can’t do the assignment. She has come across all sorts of technology issues over the past few weeks and needs help figuring them out. I’m not going to tell her that I’m not helping when she feels the need to complete an assignment.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers like google stuff because they can view all student answers in dashboard format, spreadsheets, etc depending what the work looks like, they can comment on it in real time, and they can work on an assignment "with" a student.

If it's not working for you, just write it down on paper and take a picture and return the photo. For every assignment I have given during this distance stuff, I've given an electronic option and a paper option. Kids are 50/50 on which one they choose. (That's not true, they're 20/20--60% aren't doing anything, lol)

I doubt anyone is actually looking at these answers.

NP here. My kids' teachers are looking at them and returning assignments with comments for corrections needed.

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