Anonymous
05/04/2020 00:23
Subject: US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:USSF props up the women's pro league. W/o that money there is no NWSL. This whole system is an apples and oranges issue, yet the women tried to frame as inequity. The women wanted the guarantees of salary and other benefits from USSF that men dont't get then turn around and say they're not getting paid like the men. They're by far the highest-paid women's team in the world. I get they're more successful than the men, but they don't generate the potential revenue - mostly through World Cup money - that the men can. So they're pay structure is going to be different.
The equal pay argument is for social and media outlets to cry discrimination. It's a false equivalency. Anyone in business understands that WNBA players get paid less than the NBA and it is isn't discrimination even if the Minnesota Lnyx and Minnesota Timberwolvers achieve different success.
Yep, they cried wolf with the help of Social Justice Warriors and social media. What the players were talking about had nothing to do with the actual case. They have zero integrity.
Anonymous
05/03/2020 22:59
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I heard a rumor that US Soccer wants to take back the DA now that their financial exposure has lessened. LOL
DA is a loser. Good bye and good riddance. A decade and we can't even qualify for the men's world cup.
+1
Anonymous
05/03/2020 22:11
Subject: US Women lose court case
USSF props up the women's pro league. W/o that money there is no NWSL. This whole system is an apples and oranges issue, yet the women tried to frame as inequity. The women wanted the guarantees of salary and other benefits from USSF that men dont't get then turn around and say they're not getting paid like the men. They're by far the highest-paid women's team in the world. I get they're more successful than the men, but they don't generate the potential revenue - mostly through World Cup money - that the men can. So they're pay structure is going to be different.
The equal pay argument is for social and media outlets to cry discrimination. It's a false equivalency. Anyone in business understands that WNBA players get paid less than the NBA and it is isn't discrimination even if the Minnesota Lnyx and Minnesota Timberwolvers achieve different success.
The equal pay argument is for social and media outlets to cry discrimination. It's a false equivalency. Anyone in business understands that WNBA players get paid less than the NBA and it is isn't discrimination even if the Minnesota Lnyx and Minnesota Timberwolvers achieve different success.
Anonymous
05/03/2020 12:59
Subject: US Women lose court case
Here is the Judge's Order:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6881283/Document.pdf
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6881283/Document.pdf
Anonymous
05/03/2020 11:39
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would remove the patch from my son's and daughter's jerseys myself if I had the time or energy. Probably would have been better for the sport of soccer here if they had lost.
No it’s best for the sport to have the women national players paid yearly by US Soccer. The men only get money if they are on the game day roster. Injured or not selected too bad, you do not get paid. US soccer pays each women national team member $100,000 plus healthcare and a retirement plan per year. If they play in the WNSL they get an additional $67-87,000. Other WNSL players get paid between $25,000-$85,000 with an average of $40,000 a year. Try living on that for the 3 year between World Cups. How many WNT players would stop playing if they were not paid yearly? You need a pro league to keep players playing between world cups.
They negotiated the collective bargaining agreement and took a less risky, money upfront approach. Now they want to change it retroactively for their benefit. Its time to separate the men’s and women’s national teams into different organizations.
They got to be pretty happy with the arrangement right now. Who knows how long it's going to be before either USMNT or USWNT play any games generating revenue.
Anonymous
05/02/2020 16:42
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:I heard a rumor that US Soccer wants to take back the DA now that their financial exposure has lessened. LOL
DA is a loser. Good bye and good riddance. A decade and we can't even qualify for the men's world cup.
Anonymous
05/02/2020 16:36
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous
05/02/2020 14:26
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So the forum title is misleading. They lost part of their case for now. The other issues are proceeding to trial in June. Some equality could come out of this soon.
Correct -- the remainder of the case is about travel, medical staff, and training equipment. The judge felt that was worth a trial instead of dismissing it summarily.
“Evil Bush judge” commenter, waiting for you response (wherever you are).
Anonymous
05/02/2020 14:25
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:So the forum title is misleading. They lost part of their case for now. The other issues are proceeding to trial in June. Some equality could come out of this soon.
“Equal pay” was the rallying cry, so the title summarized it good enough for laymen.
Anonymous
05/02/2020 12:37
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:I heard a rumor that US Soccer wants to take back the DA now that their financial exposure has lessened. LOL
That is just a lawsuit waiting to happen. Let’s say Boys DA became wildly successful(lol) and US Soccer was making money off of transfer fees. The women would sue. Need to different organizations.
Anonymous
05/02/2020 11:28
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:So the forum title is misleading. They lost part of their case for now. The other issues are proceeding to trial in June. Some equality could come out of this soon.
Correct -- the remainder of the case is about travel, medical staff, and training equipment. The judge felt that was worth a trial instead of dismissing it summarily.
Anonymous
05/02/2020 11:26
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
So the forum title is misleading. They lost part of their case for now. The other issues are proceeding to trial in June. Some equality could come out of this soon.
Anonymous
05/02/2020 11:21
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
Anonymous wrote:I also agree that they should separate the organizations. They're different sports--they need separate governing bodies.
That's the argument US Soccer made too... different sports, so different compensation packages.
I don't think they necessarily need different governing bodies though. The women's team is just regretting the deal their expert negotiators came to, but that's their fault, not the fault of US Soccer.
Anonymous
05/02/2020 11:16
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
I heard a rumor that US Soccer wants to take back the DA now that their financial exposure has lessened. LOL
Anonymous
05/02/2020 10:33
Subject: Re:US Women lose court case
I also agree that they should separate the organizations. They're different sports--they need separate governing bodies.
Did the judge address the USWNT demand that US Soccer make up the difference in prize money from international competition? I haven't seen anything about that in the stories I've read.
Also, looks like they WILL continue towards court with the issues of logistics (charter flights, field quality, etc). This is something that US Soccer should have fixed years ago.
Did the judge address the USWNT demand that US Soccer make up the difference in prize money from international competition? I haven't seen anything about that in the stories I've read.
Also, looks like they WILL continue towards court with the issues of logistics (charter flights, field quality, etc). This is something that US Soccer should have fixed years ago.