Anonymous
04/30/2020 13:47
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's the Haycock distance learning schedule? Just curious.
Depends on the grade and teacher ...
OK, what's your dc's schedule?
Synchronous via Google Meet and more work than I care to track. My kid is doing it without too much input from me.
Why so cagey? How many hours a day "synchonous"? How many days a week?
It is different for EVERY grade and teacher/ teacher teams. Haycock Distant learning thus far has been great(and even BEOFRE the official start) Teacher and teacher teams seem to have a choice on how they are doing Distant learning so NOT everyone's answer will be the same. My kids teachers are not doing the "1 hour straight of live learning" The younger one has about half hour of either morning meeting or read a long then followed by team taught recordings and assignments, flip grids that you can do whenever throughout the day. The older one has more of a schedule of live classes/bookclubs(with breaks in between classes) all team taught Math, Reading, Science, writing, book club.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 13:35
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:I'm an ES assistant principal. I would *never* take a job at Haycock. The reputation is that the parents are the biggest PITAs in all of FCPS (worse than TJ!). And the existence of this thread is supporting evidence.
As a teacher I find the parents to be kind but many are a bit hard to please and demanding. It can get exhausting so I would hate to be an admin there. But they care A LOT about their kids’ education, so the kids are very fortunate.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 13:26
Subject: Re:Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think the particular failure-to-report charge against Bloom could lead to more than a fine, but people like to exaggerate. Do agree his days at Haycock are over but, as long as Augie continues to do a good job, Zuluaga has no incentive to treat a permanent replacement as a priority with all the other pandemic-related challenges.
I think the bigger issue is how much longer Augie is willing to be there. He's probably ready to ride off into the sunset. I hope he sticks around for a few more years though...
He’s also a bit older and has kids, so he could be worried about COVID (I don’t know this). But his age could put him at risk. I’m sure if he wants to retire for next year they will figure things out.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 13:18
Subject: Haycock Principal
I'm an ES assistant principal. I would *never* take a job at Haycock. The reputation is that the parents are the biggest PITAs in all of FCPS (worse than TJ!). And the existence of this thread is supporting evidence.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 13:17
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's the Haycock distance learning schedule? Just curious.
Depends on the grade and teacher ...
OK, what's your dc's schedule?
Synchronous via Google Meet and more work than I care to track. My kid is doing it without too much input from me.
Why so cagey? How many hours a day "synchonous"? How many days a week?
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:44
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So there’s an experienced interim principal but you just don’t think he’s appropriately enthusiastic? LOL. I think FCPS has bigger fish to fry right now. I would expect him to be around all next school year.
OP here, I'm not faulting Augie in any way--I think he's an awesome person. Having talked to him in detail, he has clearly expressed some concern about making any short term policy decisions because he knows he is ONLY an interim principal and that the Principal of the school will ultimately control policy and he doesn't want to impede that process. He's actually being VERY considerate, which is why he's amazing. However, that doesn't solve overall problem that Haycock is a ship without a FULL TIME captain, and hence, a school unable to make any formal decision on forward planning activities or initiatives. That's the problem! I get FCPS has bigger fish to fry, but really, the problem should be addressed. FCPS officials should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Might be hard, but not impossible. Do I think Fabio can prioritize the future captain search at Haycock--most definitely I think he can. I doubt he's on tap for solving the "bigger fish" issues absorbing the district. He needs to worry about the bigger fish issues absorbing his Region, one of which is to fill Principal positions that are currently vacant. Or help HR move a disposition on Bloom so that he can be freed up to put the search for a Principal for Haycock back on track. If everyone is waiting around for someone else to do something, nothing gets done. And, there are limits to how long Augie can keep this going. It's smart for us to start asking those questions than saying, 'oh don't be tone deaf, we have bigger problems' ... at some point, school will begin regular session. Just like we're saying how awful FCPS was in forward planning the distance learning program, when things go back to normal, if R2 leadership isn't planning for Haycock leadership, they'll again be caught flat footed. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking these questions now.
I don't know if you realize this, but there's literally nothing in your lengthy post that identifies an actual problem that cries out for a short-term policy decision. It just comes across as kvetching about the fact that the school has an (experienced, thoughtful, well-regarded) interim principal rather than a permanent principal, as if that's a personal slight. Haycock did have a principal earlier who wanted to make some big changes, and the parents and teachers pushed him out. Fabio isn't going to lift a finger for Haycock until Augie says he's done, especially right now.
OP here, as the other response notes, Donnelly was pushed out for very specific reasons. He kept making decisions without properly consulting with teaching staff, administrative staff or the parents. If it's affecting all the kids and their learning, he should have planned for the rollout of his big idea much better than he did. Maybe FCPS principals need some consensus building and management training! [Though I very much doubt Augie would have ever made this mistake.] I too agree that Fabio won't do anything, but as a concerned parent, I'm going to email and ask what the plan is, knowing he has no plan. But maybe it will get him thinking ...
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:38
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's the Haycock distance learning schedule? Just curious.
Depends on the grade and teacher ...
OK, what's your dc's schedule?
Synchronous via Google Meet and more work than I care to track. My kid is doing it without too much input from me.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:29
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So there’s an experienced interim principal but you just don’t think he’s appropriately enthusiastic? LOL. I think FCPS has bigger fish to fry right now. I would expect him to be around all next school year.
OP here, I'm not faulting Augie in any way--I think he's an awesome person. Having talked to him in detail, he has clearly expressed some concern about making any short term policy decisions because he knows he is ONLY an interim principal and that the Principal of the school will ultimately control policy and he doesn't want to impede that process. He's actually being VERY considerate, which is why he's amazing. However, that doesn't solve overall problem that Haycock is a ship without a FULL TIME captain, and hence, a school unable to make any formal decision on forward planning activities or initiatives. That's the problem! I get FCPS has bigger fish to fry, but really, the problem should be addressed. FCPS officials should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Might be hard, but not impossible. Do I think Fabio can prioritize the future captain search at Haycock--most definitely I think he can. I doubt he's on tap for solving the "bigger fish" issues absorbing the district. He needs to worry about the bigger fish issues absorbing his Region, one of which is to fill Principal positions that are currently vacant. Or help HR move a disposition on Bloom so that he can be freed up to put the search for a Principal for Haycock back on track. If everyone is waiting around for someone else to do something, nothing gets done. And, there are limits to how long Augie can keep this going. It's smart for us to start asking those questions than saying, 'oh don't be tone deaf, we have bigger problems' ... at some point, school will begin regular session. Just like we're saying how awful FCPS was in forward planning the distance learning program, when things go back to normal, if R2 leadership isn't planning for Haycock leadership, they'll again be caught flat footed. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking these questions now.
I don't know if you realize this, but there's literally nothing in your lengthy post that identifies an actual problem that cries out for a short-term policy decision. It just comes across as kvetching about the fact that the school has an (experienced, thoughtful, well-regarded) interim principal rather than a permanent principal, as if that's a personal slight. Haycock did have a principal earlier who wanted to make some big changes, and the parents and teachers pushed him out. Fabio isn't going to lift a finger for Haycock until Augie says he's done, especially right now.
Fake news! He didn't get pushed out because he wanted to make "some big changes," he got clobbered because he thought he could do unilaterally without proper input from the teaching staff that the big changes would primarily impact and the heavily involved parent community who want a say in how education happens at Haycock. I don't think the OP is saying that the new principal should make big changes without appropriately vetting them with the full Haycock community.
Though I totally agree that Fabio won't do a damn thing until Augie says he's bouncin' into the sunset!
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:17
Subject: Re:Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:I think he is doing a great job and am thankful to have him. I hope he remains principal next year to help the school and students through what pandemic challenges may come.
+1
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:16
Subject: Haycock Principal
If FCPS had a list of 5000 problems to solve right now, this wouldn't even make the list. i think its bizarre anyone even thinks this is an issue-you have a competent interim. Be careful what you wish for
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:14
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's the Haycock distance learning schedule? Just curious.
Depends on the grade and teacher ...
OK, what's your dc's schedule?
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:11
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So there’s an experienced interim principal but you just don’t think he’s appropriately enthusiastic? LOL. I think FCPS has bigger fish to fry right now. I would expect him to be around all next school year.
OP here, I'm not faulting Augie in any way--I think he's an awesome person. Having talked to him in detail, he has clearly expressed some concern about making any short term policy decisions because he knows he is ONLY an interim principal and that the Principal of the school will ultimately control policy and he doesn't want to impede that process. He's actually being VERY considerate, which is why he's amazing. However, that doesn't solve overall problem that Haycock is a ship without a FULL TIME captain, and hence, a school unable to make any formal decision on forward planning activities or initiatives. That's the problem! I get FCPS has bigger fish to fry, but really, the problem should be addressed. FCPS officials should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Might be hard, but not impossible. Do I think Fabio can prioritize the future captain search at Haycock--most definitely I think he can. I doubt he's on tap for solving the "bigger fish" issues absorbing the district. He needs to worry about the bigger fish issues absorbing his Region, one of which is to fill Principal positions that are currently vacant. Or help HR move a disposition on Bloom so that he can be freed up to put the search for a Principal for Haycock back on track. If everyone is waiting around for someone else to do something, nothing gets done. And, there are limits to how long Augie can keep this going. It's smart for us to start asking those questions than saying, 'oh don't be tone deaf, we have bigger problems' ... at some point, school will begin regular session. Just like we're saying how awful FCPS was in forward planning the distance learning program, when things go back to normal, if R2 leadership isn't planning for Haycock leadership, they'll again be caught flat footed. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking these questions now.
I don't know if you realize this, but there's literally nothing in your lengthy post that identifies an actual problem that cries out for a short-term policy decision. It just comes across as kvetching about the fact that the school has an (experienced, thoughtful, well-regarded) interim principal rather than a permanent principal, as if that's a personal slight. Haycock did have a principal earlier who wanted to make some big changes, and the parents and teachers pushed him out. Fabio isn't going to lift a finger for Haycock until Augie says he's done, especially right now.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 12:03
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:So there’s an experienced interim principal but you just don’t think he’s appropriately enthusiastic? LOL. I think FCPS has bigger fish to fry right now. I would expect him to be around all next school year.
OP here, I'm not faulting Augie in any way--I think he's an awesome person. Having talked to him in detail, he has clearly expressed some concern about making any short term policy decisions because he knows he is ONLY an interim principal and that the Principal of the school will ultimately control policy and he doesn't want to impede that process. He's actually being VERY considerate, which is why he's amazing. However, that doesn't solve overall problem that Haycock is a ship without a FULL TIME captain, and hence, a school unable to make any formal decision on forward planning activities or initiatives. That's the problem! I get FCPS has bigger fish to fry, but really, the problem should be addressed. FCPS officials should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Might be hard, but not impossible. Do I think Fabio can prioritize the future captain search at Haycock--most definitely I think he can. I doubt he's on tap for solving the "bigger fish" issues absorbing the district. He needs to worry about the bigger fish issues absorbing his Region, one of which is to fill Principal positions that are currently vacant. Or help HR move a disposition on Bloom so that he can be freed up to put the search for a Principal for Haycock back on track. If everyone is waiting around for someone else to do something, nothing gets done. And, there are limits to how long Augie can keep this going. It's smart for us to start asking those questions than saying, 'oh don't be tone deaf, we have bigger problems' ... at some point, school will begin regular session. Just like we're saying how awful FCPS was in forward planning the distance learning program, when things go back to normal, if R2 leadership isn't planning for Haycock leadership, they'll again be caught flat footed. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking these questions now.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 11:40
Subject: Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:What's the Haycock distance learning schedule? Just curious.
Depends on the grade and teacher ...
Anonymous
04/30/2020 11:38
Subject: Re:Haycock Principal
Anonymous wrote:You get that the pandemic is probably slowing down any principal search process, right?
NP here, but I think that's what the OP is questioning--is there even a search going on? The parents of Haycock haven't heard any such thing. The issue with Bloom occurred in September, and it's been a black hole since then. I also get there's a pandemic, but the issue with non-communication predated any pandemic. The interim principal is nice, but he's unable to really make lasting changes because of the interim nature of the job.