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Anonymous wrote:I work for a local university. In addition to other factors, we definitely take our cues from schools that we consider our sister institutions.

You work for a business. You work with your industry to protect your profits. (Don't tell me it's non profit, don't insult us.) You will work together so the buyer has not other options.

Uhh... ok. That's totally what we've been talking about. Yeah...

Thinking out loud, the problem with starting the school year late and going through summer 2021 is that it would be summer #2 of no internships.

Maybe that would mix things up a bit in the world of recruiting. I can imagine students for whom that would be a good thing, students who don't quite have their act together in junior year for internships but finally do by senior year.

Well now that certain segments of the population want to flout social distancing and are being encouraged to do so by POTUS, we're going to see a rebound or extension of cases. That doesn't help the chance of schools starting up in the fall.

So irresponsible.

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Anonymous wrote:MIT alum here. we got an email within the last few days saying they haven't made any decisions but are of course making preparations. they hope to make a decision by early summer if not sooner. friends at other institutions are all deeply involved in figuring out how to take things like labs "online" or "remote."

Why pay tuition for MIT online when they have open courseware for free?

Surely you are not serious.

It's a fair question -- but not for an elite like MIT. The colleges that will be screwed are the fairly non-selective state schools and regional LACs. Why pay a premium for those online courses when you can just have Jr. enroll in the local community college's online sections for 1/3rd to 1/6th the price?

Then after you do that for the fall, aren't most rational people going to say why not just keep the savings going through the end of the year, then let Jr. transfer to the more expensive college in Fall 2021 -- if not Fall 2022 with two years completed?

Totally agree. This will also devastate nearly every in-residence MBA program in this country outside the top 10 or so.

Kellogg is telling people who got rejected in earlier rounds to resubmit their application this round, so even top 10 are having major problems.

PP, here. Agreed. If Kellogg catches a cold, a school 10 places lower gets pneumonia.

Good job, OP: Stanford is sounding out going to online this fall:

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Aron Rodrigue and Stephanie Kalfayan, co-chairs of the Fall Planning Task Force, answered questions about what fall quarter would look like. While both co-chairs expressed that the timing on a decision is still unclear, Rodrigue said a recommendation about fall quarter would likely be presented to the president and provost next month.

“We have about five or six different scenarios about different ways of approaching this, with pluses and minuses being discussed all the time,” Rodrigue said. One of those scenarios might include the possibility of Stanford having the academic year start in winter quarter, and continue with quarters in the spring and summer.

At the meeting, Drell confirmed that this was one of the options.

“That is something that is being contemplated,” Drell said. “It is not impossible; it is not crazy.”
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https://www.stanforddaily.com/2020/04/16/next-academic-year-could-start-in-winter-provost-says/

Stanford orientation and fall semester don't start until late September, so they have a bit more time. They also have testing available by Stanford hospital.

That said, if I were an incoming freshman, I'd be tempted to try to defer a year. I feel for those kids.

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Anonymous wrote:They were the first to cancel classes on March 5th. They are also the most prepared to continue online. I think they'll announce fall is online with a January 2021 reopening of campus. Why I think they have to punt fall opening is because there's no way they're going to be ready for orientation in June and July.

Orientation in-person isn't happening in June and July, but there's an easy fix: orientation at the start of fall classes, like the old days.

How do you plan for full-scale re-opening in August without knowing any potential travel and student-visa restrictions -- and if there are still bans on 50+ people in a room?

No one knows right now. But that's four months away. We've been home for a month. Opening campus is the default position. Online is the contingency plan if they're not allowed to open campus. I have no idea when they'll decide, but my guess is mid-June, when things will hopefully be much clearer.

Visa issues are a separate matter. Colleges aren't going to hold up the start of the semester while internationals wait for visas.

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Anonymous wrote:MIT alum here. we got an email within the last few days saying they haven't made any decisions but are of course making preparations. they hope to make a decision by early summer if not sooner. friends at other institutions are all deeply involved in figuring out how to take things like labs "online" or "remote."

Why pay tuition for MIT online when they have open courseware for free?

Surely you are not serious.

It's a fair question -- but not for an elite like MIT. The colleges that will be screwed are the fairly non-selective state schools and regional LACs. Why pay a premium for those online courses when you can just have Jr. enroll in the local community college's online sections for 1/3rd to 1/6th the price?

Then after you do that for the fall, aren't most rational people going to say why not just keep the savings going through the end of the year, then let Jr. transfer to the more expensive college in Fall 2021 -- if not Fall 2022 with two years completed?

Totally agree. This will also devastate nearly every in-residence MBA program in this country outside the top 10 or so.

Kellogg is telling people who got rejected in earlier rounds to resubmit their application this round, so even top 10 are having major problems.

I think we are most likely see the top 25 schools go to module programs. The semester will consist of 4 blocks, each of approximately 4 weeks. This will allow schools to send students home and bring them back as needed.

It is unrealistic to think 90% of schools will be online. States are going to be opening up again starting next week. We are still 4 months away from the start of the fall semester, which is roughly 4x the amount of time that we have been in lockdown. If you haven't noticed, more and more people are venturing out, even though MD/VA/DC have not weakened the shelter in places at all.

If K-12 is back in the fall, colleges will be as well.

They're all making contingency plans: https://www.wbur.org/edify/2020/04/11/bu-coronavirus-2021-possible-reopening

Anonymous wrote:Won't be any football, either

SEC will have football

Anonymous wrote:I work for a local university. In addition to other factors, we definitely take our cues from schools that we consider our sister institutions.

You work for a business. You work with your industry to protect your profits. (Don't tell me it's non profit, don't insult us.) You will work together so the buyer has not other options.

I work for a local university. In addition to other factors, we definitely take our cues from schools that we consider our sister institutions.

Won't be any football, either

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Anonymous wrote:They were the first to cancel classes on March 5th. They are also the most prepared to continue online. I think they'll announce fall is online with a January 2021 reopening of campus. Why I think they have to punt fall opening is because there's no way they're going to be ready for orientation in June and July.

Orientation in-person isn't happening in June and July, but there's an easy fix: orientation at the start of fall classes, like the old days.

How do you plan for full-scale re-opening in August without knowing any potential travel and student-visa restrictions -- and if there are still bans on 50+ people in a room?