Anonymous
04/15/2020 13:22
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
I think the ex-DA in that group would want to keep it a bit more elite than that, maybe 6 of those and maybe Richmond and a PA team.
You can see that there are 10 or more very strong teams in the area and this list didn't include Calverton Cerritos or Potomac and maybe a few others. Why in the world does Rochmond need to get involved or even a Philly team. There's plenty of competition right here. You can play Richmond in Jeff Cup and Philly/NJ teams in EDP Cup.
Some parents like the idea of exposure to Richmond and PA despite the travel (I'm not one of them fwiw). Also some clubs, like Achilles for example, might not be able to field a competitive team at every age group.
This is why us parents ruin everything. There is no benefit for the kids to drive to PA to play whoever when Potomac (just grabbing a neutrally located competitive team) is just as competitive. It's just so parents can go to work and tell their coworker that their kid played whoever up in Philly. Just dumb. Or same with Richmond, so we can sit on 95 for 3 hours.
Philly Union is quite a bit better than Potomac.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 13:11
Subject: Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because the main thread is getting too confusing between boys and girls team, this is a thread to discuss future developments on the boys' side.
Where exactly is the official notification? Are we still commenting on rumors?
FFS. You are too stupid to be in the sport. Google is your friend.
Agree.
For the 100th time:
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/report-u-s-soccer-to-permanently-close-entire-development-academy/
NP. While I believe it's going to be official soon, that's still a rumor. It's "source" is an article in The Athletic that quotes anonymous sources for it's information and says US Soccer could make the announcement as soon as today (4/15). Not confirmed.......just yet.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 13:02
Subject: Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because the main thread is getting too confusing between boys and girls team, this is a thread to discuss future developments on the boys' side.
Where exactly is the official notification? Are we still commenting on rumors?
FFS. You are too stupid to be in the sport. Google is your friend.
Multiple unnamed sources... seems about stupid to me too ! ! Brains SHOULD be your friend, but alas, no hope.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 13:01
Subject: Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because the main thread is getting too confusing between boys and girls team, this is a thread to discuss future developments on the boys' side.
Where exactly is the official notification? Are we still commenting on rumors?
FFS. You are too stupid to be in the sport. Google is your friend.
Agree.
For the 100th time:
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/report-u-s-soccer-to-permanently-close-entire-development-academy/
MORONS - I said OFFICIAL. this is a soccerwire post (not official) based on a report from The Athletic (not official). Let's wait to see what the DA (F'ing official) website says.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 13:01
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
I think the ex-DA in that group would want to keep it a bit more elite than that, maybe 6 of those and maybe Richmond and a PA team.
You can see that there are 10 or more very strong teams in the area and this list didn't include Calverton Cerritos or Potomac and maybe a few others. Why in the world does Rochmond need to get involved or even a Philly team. There's plenty of competition right here. You can play Richmond in Jeff Cup and Philly/NJ teams in EDP Cup.
Some parents like the idea of exposure to Richmond and PA despite the travel (I'm not one of them fwiw). Also some clubs, like Achilles for example, might not be able to field a competitive team at every age group.
This is why us parents ruin everything. There is no benefit for the kids to drive to PA to play whoever when Potomac (just grabbing a neutrally located competitive team) is just as competitive. It's just so parents can go to work and tell their coworker that their kid played whoever up in Philly. Just dumb. Or same with Richmond, so we can sit on 95 for 3 hours.
And this is what tournaments are for. Great teams in PA and NC and in other parts of VA but no reason to be in a regular league with them with so much talent right here.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 12:59
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
I think the ex-DA in that group would want to keep it a bit more elite than that, maybe 6 of those and maybe Richmond and a PA team.
You can see that there are 10 or more very strong teams in the area and this list didn't include Calverton Cerritos or Potomac and maybe a few others. Why in the world does Rochmond need to get involved or even a Philly team. There's plenty of competition right here. You can play Richmond in Jeff Cup and Philly/NJ teams in EDP Cup.
Some parents like the idea of exposure to Richmond and PA despite the travel (I'm not one of them fwiw). Also some clubs, like Achilles for example, might not be able to field a competitive team at every age group.
Yes, to be clear, it would vary year to year based on how good the actual team is, not what the club reputation is. So Cerritos, Herndon, SYA, Brausa and others with top teams in particular years would all be able to have top division teams for appropriate years. That is exactly what makes EDP attractive. Less of the walled garden nonsense, which ultimately makes everything inside the garden weaker.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 12:18
Subject: Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because the main thread is getting too confusing between boys and girls team, this is a thread to discuss future developments on the boys' side.
Where exactly is the official notification? Are we still commenting on rumors?
FFS. You are too stupid to be in the sport. Google is your friend.
Agree.
For the 100th time:
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/report-u-s-soccer-to-permanently-close-entire-development-academy/
Anonymous
04/15/2020 12:18
Subject: Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because the main thread is getting too confusing between boys and girls team, this is a thread to discuss future developments on the boys' side.
Where exactly is the official notification? Are we still commenting on rumors?
FFS. You are too stupid to be in the sport. Google is your friend.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 12:17
Subject: Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Because the main thread is getting too confusing between boys and girls team, this is a thread to discuss future developments on the boys' side.
Where exactly is the official notification? Are we still commenting on rumors?
Anonymous
04/15/2020 11:56
Subject: Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I want to know if they will go back to age groupings by school year so a Sept 1 cutoff or back to Aug 1. I think a big push for calendar year was for the DA program.
It was. We were going to have all of these International stars and needed to align
They should do this. They should atone for former mistakes and make changes while there are 6 months of no games/training.
Plenty of time to fix those many past mistakes and make things right.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 11:55
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
I think the ex-DA in that group would want to keep it a bit more elite than that, maybe 6 of those and maybe Richmond and a PA team.
You can see that there are 10 or more very strong teams in the area and this list didn't include Calverton Cerritos or Potomac and maybe a few others. Why in the world does Rochmond need to get involved or even a Philly team. There's plenty of competition right here. You can play Richmond in Jeff Cup and Philly/NJ teams in EDP Cup.
Yep. Elitist BS. There are teams not even listed that have beat teams in that list.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 11:55
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
I think the ex-DA in that group would want to keep it a bit more elite than that, maybe 6 of those and maybe Richmond and a PA team.
You can see that there are 10 or more very strong teams in the area and this list didn't include Calverton Cerritos or Potomac and maybe a few others. Why in the world does Rochmond need to get involved or even a Philly team. There's plenty of competition right here. You can play Richmond in Jeff Cup and Philly/NJ teams in EDP Cup.
Some parents like the idea of exposure to Richmond and PA despite the travel (I'm not one of them fwiw). Also some clubs, like Achilles for example, might not be able to field a competitive team at every age group.
How would this work for the high school age groups since MD does high school in the fall but VA is in the spring? Would these clubs continue to play year round (so they would still skip high school soccer?)
Anonymous
04/15/2020 11:54
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
I think the ex-DA in that group would want to keep it a bit more elite than that, maybe 6 of those and maybe Richmond and a PA team.
You can see that there are 10 or more very strong teams in the area and this list didn't include Calverton Cerritos or Potomac and maybe a few others. Why in the world does Rochmond need to get involved or even a Philly team. There's plenty of competition right here. You can play Richmond in Jeff Cup and Philly/NJ teams in EDP Cup.
Some parents like the idea of exposure to Richmond and PA despite the travel (I'm not one of them fwiw). Also some clubs, like Achilles for example, might not be able to field a competitive team at every age group.
This is why us parents ruin everything. There is no benefit for the kids to drive to PA to play whoever when Potomac (just grabbing a neutrally located competitive team) is just as competitive. It's just so parents can go to work and tell their coworker that their kid played whoever up in Philly. Just dumb. Or same with Richmond, so we can sit on 95 for 3 hours.
+1
The travel aspect for regular season games is just stupid.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 11:53
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
Every Club, event the big ones have weaker age groups. It should not be based on the "Club". It should be the 'team' and pro/rel helps with this.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 11:47
Subject: Re:Post-DA future - Boys
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can VDA exist after this? I'm not sure about this so be gentle...VDA only exist because of agreements they made with other clubs, correct? The get their field space from PWSI and VSA, correct? So if the DA goes down, they would lose their field space and infrastructure?
That is a good and separate point, the same as Armour. But VDA presumably will continue to exist for ECNL, so why not keep infrastructure and principles together for boys side?
Here's a pretty good local EDP division for boys teams : Bethesda, SAC Premier Blue, Pipeline, Baltimore Union, Achilles, Total Futbol, VDA, Arlington, Alexandria, SYC.
The great thing about EDP is that a really good team from an otherwise OK club can be in a top division. None of this nonsense where teams are in top divisions merely because they belong to a strong club and good teams excluded merely because other club teams are viewed as weaker.
I think the ex-DA in that group would want to keep it a bit more elite than that, maybe 6 of those and maybe Richmond and a PA team.
You can see that there are 10 or more very strong teams in the area and this list didn't include Calverton Cerritos or Potomac and maybe a few others. Why in the world does Rochmond need to get involved or even a Philly team. There's plenty of competition right here. You can play Richmond in Jeff Cup and Philly/NJ teams in EDP Cup.
Some parents like the idea of exposure to Richmond and PA despite the travel (I'm not one of them fwiw). Also some clubs, like Achilles for example, might not be able to field a competitive team at every age group.
This is why us parents ruin everything. There is no benefit for the kids to drive to PA to play whoever when Potomac (just grabbing a neutrally located competitive team) is just as competitive. It's just so parents can go to work and tell their coworker that their kid played whoever up in Philly. Just dumb. Or same with Richmond, so we can sit on 95 for 3 hours.