Anonymous
04/08/2020 15:49
Subject: Trump Votes by Mail
The MAGAs don't care if Trump essentially prohibits them from voting or potentially catching a deadly disease. All they apparently care about is if Trump can still vote by mail.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 14:17
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn't he officially a resident of Florida? In that case, it would seem that an absentee ballot is perfectly appropriate.
And I am not normally a fan of vote-by-mail or a defender of Donald Trump.
what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?
he votes in florida, i believe - we don't need absentee ballots here. anyone can vote by mail. i've lived here for five years and have voted by mail in almost every election - easy peasy.
it is one of the few election-related things we do well here.
As opposed to, say, Texas, where to be eligible to vote early by mail, you must:
be 65 years or older;
be disabled;
be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or
be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible."
Anonymous
04/08/2020 12:20
Subject: Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:#basedoesn'tcare
That's the sad thing. Base doesn't care.... about anything.
The base is self-loathing.
+1.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 12:19
Subject: Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:You mail your ballot in. It’s scanned. Checked against the local voter registry and verified in a count by a Dem, a Republican and an independent voter. Problem solved. Republicans are trying to sell the ludicrous idea that people are photocopying ballots and mailing many in.
The whole point, there is a paper trail. Fraud is virtually impossible.
+100. We should vote this way by default. Too much election tampering, create a trail. Provide secure collection ballot boxes manned by aameras and mail scanners. Bonus: Increase revenue for the USPS.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 11:44
Subject: Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:#basedoesn'tcare
That's the sad thing. Base doesn't care.... about anything.
The base is self-loathing.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 10:53
Subject: Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:#basedoesn'tcare
That's the sad thing. Base doesn't care.... about anything.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 10:48
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?
Nothing, if they are actually absent.
Why does that make it any less open to fraud? Absentee ballots are not just for people out of state, but also unable to safely get to the polling station (sick, disabled, etc). That obviously applies right now, during a pandemic.
Not sure what the rules are now, But, I was a Florida voter many years ago. I was living overseas and voted absentee. There were a couple of hoops to jump through--it was not just a matter of mailing the ballot back. In fact, I may have had to have it notarized. Or, maybe just had to have someone witness it. I was on a military post.
What Pelosi is pushing is to have everyone mailed a ballot. People move. Things happen. For example, we received two different census requests with different code numbers on them--the street address had a different, but somewhat accurate name. This type of thing could easily happen with mailed ballots. People move. You could definitely have two or three families receiving ballots at the same address--and, it could be abused. Just like it has been abused at nursing homes.
The Census has nothing to do with voter registration. You’re going to pull a muscle reaching like that.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 10:46
Subject: Trump Votes by Mail
You mail your ballot in. It’s scanned. Checked against the local voter registry and verified in a count by a Dem, a Republican and an independent voter. Problem solved. Republicans are trying to sell the ludicrous idea that people are photocopying ballots and mailing many in.
The whole point, there is a paper trail. Fraud is virtually impossible.
The whole point, there is a paper trail. Fraud is virtually impossible.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 10:31
Subject: Trump Votes by Mail
That too.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 10:20
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?
Nothing, if they are actually absent.
Why does that make it any less open to fraud? Absentee ballots are not just for people out of state, but also unable to safely get to the polling station (sick, disabled, etc). That obviously applies right now, during a pandemic.
Not sure what the rules are now, But, I was a Florida voter many years ago. I was living overseas and voted absentee. There were a couple of hoops to jump through--it was not just a matter of mailing the ballot back. In fact, I may have had to have it notarized. Or, maybe just had to have someone witness it. I was on a military post.
What Pelosi is pushing is to have everyone mailed a ballot. People move. Things happen. For example, we received two different census requests with different code numbers on them--the street address had a different, but somewhat accurate name. This type of thing could easily happen with mailed ballots. People move. You could definitely have two or three families receiving ballots at the same address--and, it could be abused. Just like it has been abused at nursing homes.
It could be abused, but to date, the only documented cases of abuse are from Republicans. If it were so widespread, I would think Barr's DOJ would have exposed it by now, no?
Or the special commission Trump appointed with Kris Kobach which was quickly disbanded because it didn’t find any evidence?
Anonymous
04/08/2020 10:17
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?
Nothing, if they are actually absent.
Why does that make it any less open to fraud? Absentee ballots are not just for people out of state, but also unable to safely get to the polling station (sick, disabled, etc). That obviously applies right now, during a pandemic.
Not sure what the rules are now, But, I was a Florida voter many years ago. I was living overseas and voted absentee. There were a couple of hoops to jump through--it was not just a matter of mailing the ballot back. In fact, I may have had to have it notarized. Or, maybe just had to have someone witness it. I was on a military post.
What Pelosi is pushing is to have everyone mailed a ballot. People move. Things happen. For example, we received two different census requests with different code numbers on them--the street address had a different, but somewhat accurate name. This type of thing could easily happen with mailed ballots. People move. You could definitely have two or three families receiving ballots at the same address--and, it could be abused. Just like it has been abused at nursing homes.
It could be abused, but to date, the only documented cases of abuse are from Republicans. If it were so widespread, I would think Barr's DOJ would have exposed it by now, no?
Anonymous
04/08/2020 10:15
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
GOP worried about fraud? Not unless their committing it themselves. Remember this situation from the mid-terms?
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article226864674.html
Anonymous
04/08/2020 09:32
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?
Nothing, if they are actually absent.
Why does that make it any less open to fraud? Absentee ballots are not just for people out of state, but also unable to safely get to the polling station (sick, disabled, etc). That obviously applies right now, during a pandemic.
Not sure what the rules are now, But, I was a Florida voter many years ago. I was living overseas and voted absentee. There were a couple of hoops to jump through--it was not just a matter of mailing the ballot back. In fact, I may have had to have it notarized. Or, maybe just had to have someone witness it. I was on a military post.
What Pelosi is pushing is to have everyone mailed a ballot. People move. Things happen. For example, we received two different census requests with different code numbers on them--the street address had a different, but somewhat accurate name. This type of thing could easily happen with mailed ballots. People move. You could definitely have two or three families receiving ballots at the same address--and, it could be abused. Just like it has been abused at nursing homes.
I live in Florida and vote by mail. You do not need to have the ballot notarized. You just request a paper ballot, it gets sent, you fill it out, sign the envelope to confirm it's yours, and send it back. It could not be easier.
It seems like in *pandemic times* concerns about hypothetical voter fraud take a back seat to actual issues concerning people getting sick, and overwhelming the hospital system, and dying, because it is literally impossible to vote safely in person.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 09:29
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?
Nothing, if they are actually absent.
Why does that make it any less open to fraud? Absentee ballots are not just for people out of state, but also unable to safely get to the polling station (sick, disabled, etc). That obviously applies right now, during a pandemic.
Not sure what the rules are now, But, I was a Florida voter many years ago. I was living overseas and voted absentee. There were a couple of hoops to jump through--it was not just a matter of mailing the ballot back. In fact, I may have had to have it notarized. Or, maybe just had to have someone witness it. I was on a military post.
What Pelosi is pushing is to have everyone mailed a ballot. People move. Things happen. For example, we received two different census requests with different code numbers on them--the street address had a different, but somewhat accurate name. This type of thing could easily happen with mailed ballots. People move. You could definitely have two or three families receiving ballots at the same address--and, it could be abused. Just like it has been abused at nursing homes.
Anonymous
04/08/2020 09:28
Subject: Re:Trump Votes by Mail
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn't he officially a resident of Florida? In that case, it would seem that an absentee ballot is perfectly appropriate.
And I am not normally a fan of vote-by-mail or a defender of Donald Trump.
what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?
he votes in florida, i believe - we don't need absentee ballots here. anyone can vote by mail. i've lived here for five years and have voted by mail in almost every election - easy peasy.
it is one of the few election-related things we do well here.