I think the bigger issue is that you should assume that her husband at minimum is not following appropriate precautions, which means you are not a closed loop. My mom compared it to a sex ed lecture she got in school: when you are choosing to be around someone, you are also choosing everyone else they have been around.

I am a nanny and I live alone and go to work. Other than a weekly grocery run, I am with my NKs or alone. Your nanny is with her DH, who does not care about avoiding CV. So you are exposed already whether she does the trip or not.

Maybe half pay? And 14 day quarantine.

How can OP start looking for a new nanny now? There’s no way she can find someone new in the current climate. OP should fire her and manage the kids herself, or get family help until this blows over.

I should also get new 70 yr old lawyer parents. They won’t listen either.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think I would look for a new nanny. I wouldn’t want someone that stupid in charge of my children all day.

I would also look for a new nanny.

+1. I agree and I am a nanny. I would start looking for a new nanny regardless, OP, because if she doesn’t have the sense to cancel her trip she doesn’t have the sense to keep your kids away from other people now.

If she stresses you out, you should look for someone else. If you aren't going to be able to find anyone else that's acceptable, then you have to put up with her behavior.

Honestly, I am just ignoring people when they say they have plans for things in April that clearly are going to end up being cancelled. I really doubt they will end up going.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think I would look for a new nanny. I wouldn’t want someone that stupid in charge of my children all day.

I would also look for a new nanny.

+1. Bad judgment

For what it's worth, here are my large private-sector company's guidelines for quarantine following travel:

Following travel to any international location, or designated domestic locations, an employee is directed to self-quarantine at home for 14 days before returning to work.

If telework is an option, that is authorized during the quarantine. If not:
- If the travel was company-directed business travel (only authorized for essential operations, requires very high level of approval), employee will be provided administrative paid leave
- If not (i.e. if the travel was for personal reasons, including vacation), employee may use vacation leave, sick leave, or leave without pay during the quarantine period

So if your nanny has already used her paid leave, I don't think it's unreasonable at all to make her self-quarantine without pay. But I would tell her that while she still has time to do something about it! Don't surprise her with this when she gets back.

I would try to reason with her and ask her to postpone her trip to the fall and perhaps you can sweeten the deal by offering assistance with rebooking if the tickets cost more or there is associated cost with changing her plans.

It's not your responsibility to do so, but try making it more appealing for her and her husband to change plans. Otherwise, I would insist on unpaid quarantine for 14 days after the trip. If it were me, I'd probably find a new nanny, no matter how great she is with the rest of her job.

Would you trust her and her husband assuming they live together to actually quarantine themselves for 2 weeks when they get back?

I wouldn’t.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think I would look for a new nanny. I wouldn’t want someone that stupid in charge of my children all day.

+1

Anonymous wrote:OP here - we're not getting a new nanny. She's honestly great with the kids, is always on time, is a great communicator, goes above and beyond, etc. Honestly I think her DH pressured her into it - he seems kind of low-information honestly - and told her it would all blow over by April 20 and it seems like she reluctantly went along with it..

For the people saying she should quarantine for 14 days - yes, that is a no brainer. But, with or without pay? Right now i'm thinking without.... and trying to figure out how to approach that with her.

I doubt the big FL attractions will be open by 4/20.

Anonymous wrote:If you value her you will accept that she is a grown adult with a life of her own. It's not like she's hiding from you where she is going. Because she does not owe you that information, she is just decent enough to provide you with it.

She is of good character. Don't take her for granted.

Yeah, I guess her mistake was being honest about her vacation plans.

Anonymous wrote:OP here - we're not getting a new nanny. She's honestly great with the kids, is always on time, is a great communicator, goes above and beyond, etc. Honestly I think her DH pressured her into it - he seems kind of low-information honestly - and told her it would all blow over by April 20 and it seems like she reluctantly went along with it..

For the people saying she should quarantine for 14 days - yes, that is a no brainer. But, with or without pay? Right now i'm thinking without.... and trying to figure out how to approach that with her.

Yes, with out pay.

And I would do 21 days to be safe.

I can guarantee those parks will not be open. Universal has already told top management they won't be open til June 1.