Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:46     Subject: Re:Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know it will upset some of the dcum hysterics, but another possibility is that all the closings here will keep this area from worse case scenarios allowing the country to focus on getting more resources to geographical areas that really need them—NY, Wa, CA. We are way below the number of positives in the hardest hit states, despite MD and VA now taking several hundred tests a day.

Now, watch how many posters rush to tell me how that can never happen because they enjoy reveling in doom and gloom.


That would be great except we do not have manufacturing in place to get those resources. Trump is lying daily, ie Dr Fauci covering his face with his hand when Trump talks.

Medical professionals are begging for more items to protect them and beds and ventilators, etc.. Unless the federal government starts doing their job, we won't be out of this mess for a very long time.



Cannot stop yourself.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:40     Subject: Re:Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:I know it will upset some of the dcum hysterics, but another possibility is that all the closings here will keep this area from worse case scenarios allowing the country to focus on getting more resources to geographical areas that really need them—NY, Wa, CA. We are way below the number of positives in the hardest hit states, despite MD and VA now taking several hundred tests a day.

Now, watch how many posters rush to tell me how that can never happen because they enjoy reveling in doom and gloom.


That would be great except we do not have manufacturing in place to get those resources. Trump is lying daily, ie Dr Fauci covering his face with his hand when Trump talks.

Medical professionals are begging for more items to protect them and beds and ventilators, etc.. Unless the federal government starts doing their job, we won't be out of this mess for a very long time.

Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:36     Subject: Re:Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

I know it will upset some of the dcum hysterics, but another possibility is that all the closings here will keep this area from worse case scenarios allowing the country to focus on getting more resources to geographical areas that really need them—NY, Wa, CA. We are way below the number of positives in the hardest hit states, despite MD and VA now taking several hundred tests a day.

Now, watch how many posters rush to tell me how that can never happen because they enjoy reveling in doom and gloom.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:32     Subject: Re:Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:The 2% death rate is assuming modern medical care, in a hospital or ICU, often for many weeks. Good luck with keeping it that low when tens of thousands of people need that level of care. Why do you think the death rate in Italy is so high?


Weird how some people like to just roll with made up statistics and pretend they know what they are talking about.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:27     Subject: Re:Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:The 2% death rate is assuming modern medical care, in a hospital or ICU, often for many weeks. Good luck with keeping it that low when tens of thousands of people need that level of care. Why do you think the death rate in Italy is so high?


This. Not to mention increased fatalities from normal course of business hospital care.

Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:24     Subject: Re:Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

The 2% death rate is assuming modern medical care, in a hospital or ICU, often for many weeks. Good luck with keeping it that low when tens of thousands of people need that level of care. Why do you think the death rate in Italy is so high?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:19     Subject: Re:Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Fine. Shelter in place for 18 months.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:18     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Less than a 2 percent death rate. No need to overhype things. Shame on you.


2% is huge. Would you get on a plane or into a car if you had an 80% chance of merely being very uncomfortable, 18% of being injured to require hospitalization and possibly never fully recover and ONLY a 2% chance of death? Because by not stopping this in its tracks, you're saying we should all just get on that airplane.


It’s less than 2, probably considerably less than one. Current testing isn’t capturing asymptomatic who have made up about 50 percent of the infected population in the few areas where general population was tested.


Exactly. Peoples la k of understanding of statistics is mindblowing.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:15     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Less than a 2 percent death rate. No need to overhype things. Shame on you.


Yes if 80% of the country gets and a 2% death rate..that’s only 5.232 million deaths. That is not even close to the numbers of deaths in WW2.


Are you reading what this is doing to the lungs of those who don't die?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:12     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Less than a 2 percent death rate. No need to overhype things. Shame on you.


2% is huge. Would you get on a plane or into a car if you had an 80% chance of merely being very uncomfortable, 18% of being injured to require hospitalization and possibly never fully recover and ONLY a 2% chance of death? Because by not stopping this in its tracks, you're saying we should all just get on that airplane.


It’s less than 2, probably considerably less than one. Current testing isn’t capturing asymptomatic who have made up about 50 percent of the infected population in the few areas where general population was tested.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:11     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Less than a 2 percent death rate. No need to overhype things. Shame on you.


2% is huge. Would you get on a plane or into a car if you had an 80% chance of merely being very uncomfortable, 18% of being injured to require hospitalization and possibly never fully recover and ONLY a 2% chance of death? Because by not stopping this in its tracks, you're saying we should all just get on that airplane.

What about all the people who will lose their jobs, many of whom already survive on thin margins, children who are going under, immigrants who cannot send remittances, etc, etc. There are many other important considerations. Try to calm down and think rationally.

Unless you work for government and were involved in decision-making around decisions to close schools, shelter-in-place etc, I really don't care what you think. I know the people who made these decisions, and they didn't make them lightly. They wrestled with all of these questions, and they are working extremely hard (in some cases risking their own health) to try to minimize the consequences of these difficult and unprecedented decisions. If you are so concerned about people living on the margins, what are you doing to help them? What did you do before this situation to improve their situations so that they would be better able to weather a situation like this?

Also, "rationality" dictates that there is economic turmoil with mass deaths, regardless of what you do. The stock market started tumbling well before the schools closed.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:09     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Less than a 2 percent death rate. No need to overhype things. Shame on you.


NYC currently has a shortage of about 25,000 ventilators. This will cause people who don't have to die, to die.


And the measures will cause people who don’t have to lose their jobs to lose their jobs.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:08     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

Anonymous wrote:Less than a 2 percent death rate. No need to overhype things. Shame on you.


NYC currently has a shortage of about 25,000 ventilators. This will cause people who don't have to die, to die.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:08     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

^^PS, I’m even getting on a couple of planes this week.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2020 11:07     Subject: Anyone who still thinks this is no big deal...

You can do what you want, OP. I am proceeding with life as normal to the fullest extent possible. Of course, some of it is not possible right now, but if it is, I am there and doing it.