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Anonymous wrote:It is all a diluted mess. Free market youth sports is this. When the goal is to extract every dollar possible from families it becomes about serving as much affluent talent as possible regardless if it is mediocre. This will continue until every girl with enough dollars and a bit of soccer talent is in either the gda or the ecnl.

What do you expect from a free market economy? Where there is money to be made, people will rush to it.

I expect this. If youth soccer talent was actually valuable as it is in places where transfer fees are paid, it would be about finding and developing soccer talent to make money. Here, where the size of the families bank accounts is valuable, it is about providing a luxury status product to families that pay.

I am not even arguing that one or the other system is better or worse. They just are what they are and the goals are different in the two systems.

Real Colorado is one of the super clubs, look at the amount of NT players that played there. Big loss for the DA

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DA is finished

Why? Because ECNL keeps diluting iteself?

When ECNL realigns the Mid-Atlantic Conference to be Virginia teams only and NC teams only and you are playing against CYA and Stafford it will lose a bit of its luster.

Lets not get too crazy, nobody is talking about CYA and Stafford being in ECNL proper.
How is adding Real Colorado a dilution? That is a strong club. I can see the argument wrt ECNL RL maybe, but adding strong clubs to ECNL is not dilution.

They will be when you look at the trend that ECNL is going for. That is exactly what they are doing next year on the boys side in Northern California.

What do you think these Regional ECNL teams are meant for? ECNL is simply going to fold NPL into ECNL.

FCV was just kicked out of NPL because you have to be all in.

So in the case of VDA, they will either sit on top of PWSI and VSA or VSA and PWSI will break off the partnership on the girls side to gain their own ECNL. Either way it will be watered down.

There will be pro/rel within VA but you are still looking at a very watered down league.

Showcasing wise, the national events will be tiered and all the other ECNL teams will stick to Regional showcases because, after being watered down those make the most sense to attend anyway. So, it will no longer be a matter of having your kid simply in ECNL she will have to be on the right team that will play in the "good" showcases.

Anonymous wrote:It is all a diluted mess. Free market youth sports is this. When the goal is to extract every dollar possible from families it becomes about serving as much affluent talent as possible regardless if it is mediocre. This will continue until every girl with enough dollars and a bit of soccer talent is in either the gda or the ecnl.

What do you expect from a free market economy? Where there is money to be made, people will rush to it.

It is all a diluted mess. Free market youth sports is this. When the goal is to extract every dollar possible from families it becomes about serving as much affluent talent as possible regardless if it is mediocre. This will continue until every girl with enough dollars and a bit of soccer talent is in either the gda or the ecnl.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DA is finished

Why? Because ECNL keeps diluting iteself?

When ECNL realigns the Mid-Atlantic Conference to be Virginia teams only and NC teams only and you are playing against CYA and Stafford it will lose a bit of its luster.

Lets not get too crazy, nobody is talking about CYA and Stafford being in ECNL proper.
How is adding Real Colorado a dilution? That is a strong club. I can see the argument wrt ECNL RL maybe, but adding strong clubs to ECNL is not dilution.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the top clubs in the country has left the DA for ECNL...

Source? Last year they left the ECNL for the DA and I can't find anything to substantiate this. That's why they had no ECNL teams this year, only DA teams. When they had to choose one team, they chose DA. But if ECNL will let them put two teams in, $$$$. So of course....

It's called GOOGLE
This was on their twitter feed:

Real Colorado Soccer
@RealColoSoccer
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Real Colorado will be rejoining the girls ECNL for the Fall 2020/Spring 2021 season with not one, but two teams in each age group. That is awesome x2! #ThisIsReal https://realcolorado.net/real-colorado-

Anonymous wrote:DA is finished

Why? Because ECNL keeps diluting iteself?

When ECNL realigns the Mid-Atlantic Conference to be Virginia teams only and NC teams only and you are playing against CYA and Stafford it will lose a bit of its luster.

DA is finished

It is all about money. Marketing the NT call ups is about money. Ecnl used to do that on and on and on and on.

It is a marketing strategy I did not think it's great strategy when ecnl did it and I don't think it much better now that gda does it but it is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes less competition for national camp call ups.

It makes no sense to run a soccer club based on maybe a player or two getting a call up every once in a while. It does not speak to 99.9999 percent of the players and they end up thinking...if this club is about that one player, it is not about my player and it backfires.

This is all business and ecnl will be a slightly better business model. None of it is all about finding and developing soccer talent. Outside of school athletics, much of youth sports is just a biz now

What does speak is the ability to double the amount of kids you can charge ECNL prices for. This isn't about NT call ups. This is about money and nothing more.

Anonymous wrote:Yes less competition for national camp call ups.

It makes no sense to run a soccer club based on maybe a player or two getting a call up every once in a while. It does not speak to 99.9999 percent of the players and they end up thinking...if this club is about that one player, it is not about my player and it backfires.

This is all business and ecnl will be a slightly better business model. None of it is all about finding and developing soccer talent. Outside of school athletics, much of youth sports is just a biz now

This was on their twitter feed:

Real Colorado Soccer
@RealColoSoccer
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10h
Real Colorado will be rejoining the girls ECNL for the Fall 2020/Spring 2021 season with not one, but two teams in each age group. That is awesome x2! #ThisIsReal https://realcolorado.net/real-colorado-

$$$$$$

One year into being DA member and they realized the financial loss and likely player loss.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the bigger clubs that moved from DA back to ECNL were able to field two teams:

PDA
FC Stars
Michigan Hawks

Exactly the reason they moved back. This isn’t about ECNL being better for the player, this is about ECNL being better for the club.

Since for that region, all the top teams are actually in the DA right now, for them it is a mistake. PDA has it a little easier, since a lot of teams stayed.

I am sure there were alot of considerations involved here. How can you presume to know what is a mistake for them and what is not?