Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys (now young adults) always hold the doors open for women. They’ll also offer their seats, stand when a woman approaches them, etc. It has nothing to do with women not being capable of doing so. It’s simply a demonstration of respect. They do the same for older people.

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My husband holds the door open for just about everyone. So does my brother. I do too -- I'm a woman but ES taught to hold doors, open car doors, offer to carry packages etc. for elderly people, female or male. Because...manners. And extra attention to the elderly. Or guests. Or just friends.

The angry "women don't need doors held for them!" folks seem threatened and insulted by those who would offer respect. I guess it's seen as disrespectful or infantilizing. It's not coming from that place at all -- unless you choose to put that interpretation on it. But that's coming from those PPs, not from the door-openers.

Respect is something that is mutual. It is not respect when it is something that that is only one way and that perpetuates the stereotype that women are weak, helpless and need a man for basic tasks. If I am entering a door, I always look behind and hold it for man, woman, or child. As a woman I am perfectly fine with a man, woman or child holding open a door for me. I am not okay with my daughter standing by a car waiting for a boy to come open her door or a boy rushing around to open her car door for her. That isn't respect unless she is also going to get out and run around and open his door.

Women will never be seen as equals or move up into senior positions as long as we treat them so differently than boys. Manners are something that you should teach all your children, male and female and that apply to everyone. Respect goes both ways, both boys and girls are deserving of respect and should treat others with respect. As soon as you make it one directional and this is just something you teach boys to do...it is sexist.

Teach your daughters that they are as capable as men.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys (now young adults) always hold the doors open for women. They’ll also offer their seats, stand when a woman approaches them, etc. It has nothing to do with women not being capable of doing so. It’s simply a demonstration of respect. They do the same for older people.

+1

My husband holds the door open for just about everyone. So does my brother. I do too -- I'm a woman but ES taught to hold doors, open car doors, offer to carry packages etc. for elderly people, female or male. Because...manners. And extra attention to the elderly. Or guests. Or just friends.

The angry "women don't need doors held for them!" folks seem threatened and insulted by those who would offer respect. I guess it's seen as disrespectful or infantilizing. It's not coming from that place at all -- unless you choose to put that interpretation on it. But that's coming from those PPs, not from the door-openers.

I agree. It’s misogynistic for a man to hold a door open for a woman or girl as part of a dating ritual. This is a problem with a lot of women. They want all the benefits of sexist system without any of the obstacles or hindrance.
Respect is something that is mutual. It is not respect when it is something that that is only one way and that perpetuates the stereotype that women are weak, helpless and need a man for basic tasks. If I am entering a door, I always look behind and hold it for man, woman, or child. As a woman I am perfectly fine with a man, woman or child holding open a door for me. I am not okay with my daughter standing by a car waiting for a boy to come open her door or a boy rushing around to open her car door for her. That isn't respect unless she is also going to get out and run around and open his door.

Women will never be seen as equals or move up into senior positions as long as we treat them so differently than boys. Manners are something that you should teach all your children, male and female and that apply to everyone. Respect goes both ways, both boys and girls are deserving of respect and should treat others with respect. As soon as you make it one directional and this is just something you teach boys to do...it is sexist.

Teach your daughters that they are as capable as men.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys (now young adults) always hold the doors open for women. They’ll also offer their seats, stand when a woman approaches them, etc. It has nothing to do with women not being capable of doing so. It’s simply a demonstration of respect. They do the same for older people.

+1

My husband holds the door open for just about everyone. So does my brother. I do too -- I'm a woman but ES taught to hold doors, open car doors, offer to carry packages etc. for elderly people, female or male. Because...manners. And extra attention to the elderly. Or guests. Or just friends.

The angry "women don't need doors held for them!" folks seem threatened and insulted by those who would offer respect. I guess it's seen as disrespectful or infantilizing. It's not coming from that place at all -- unless you choose to put that interpretation on it. But that's coming from those PPs, not from the door-openers.

Respect is something that is mutual. It is not respect when it is something that that is only one way and that perpetuates the stereotype that women are weak, helpless and need a man for basic tasks. If I am entering a door, I always look behind and hold it for man, woman, or child. As a woman I am perfectly fine with a man, woman or child holding open a door for me. I am not okay with my daughter standing by a car waiting for a boy to come open her door or a boy rushing around to open her car door for her. That isn't respect unless she is also going to get out and run around and open his door.

Women will never be seen as equals or move up into senior positions as long as we treat them so differently than boys. Manners are something that you should teach all your children, male and female and that apply to everyone. Respect goes both ways, both boys and girls are deserving of respect and should treat others with respect. As soon as you make it one directional and this is just something you teach boys to do...it is sexist.

Teach your daughters that they are as capable as men.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys (now young adults) always hold the doors open for women. They’ll also offer their seats, stand when a woman approaches them, etc. It has nothing to do with women not being capable of doing so. It’s simply a demonstration of respect. They do the same for older people.

+1

My husband holds the door open for just about everyone. So does my brother. I do too -- I'm a woman but ES taught to hold doors, open car doors, offer to carry packages etc. for elderly people, female or male. Because...manners. And extra attention to the elderly. Or guests. Or just friends.

The angry "women don't need doors held for them!" folks seem threatened and insulted by those who would offer respect. I guess it's seen as disrespectful or infantilizing. It's not coming from that place at all -- unless you choose to put that interpretation on it. But that's coming from those PPs, not from the door-openers.

Respect is something that is mutual. It is not respect when it is something that that is only one way and that perpetuates the stereotype that women are weak, helpless and need a man for basic tasks. If I am entering a door, I always look behind and hold it for man, woman, or child. As a woman I am perfectly fine with a man, woman or child holding open a door for me. I am not okay with my daughter standing by a car waiting for a boy to come open her door or a boy rushing around to open her car door for her. That isn't respect unless she is also going to get out and run around and open his door.

Women will never be seen as equals or move up into senior positions as long as we treat them so differently than boys. Manners are something that you should teach all your children, male and female and that apply to everyone. Respect goes both ways, both boys and girls are deserving of respect and should treat others with respect. As soon as you make it one directional and this is just something you teach boys to do...it is sexist.

Teach your daughters that they are as capable as men.

Anonymous wrote:I am a woman and open the car door for the elderly, children and even my H when his hands arw full. I also hold open doors for all genders. Stop being ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:Op, it's important to you. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted. It's important to him. It's unimportant to many people. There will be plenty of very worthwhile companions for your son who won't be impressed. Op, learn the difference re: what matters and what doesn't matter. This doesn't.

Anonymous wrote:My boys (now young adults) always hold the doors open for women. They’ll also offer their seats, stand when a woman approaches them, etc. It has nothing to do with women not being capable of doing so. It’s simply a demonstration of respect. They do the same for older people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys (now young adults) always hold the doors open for women. They’ll also offer their seats, stand when a woman approaches them, etc. It has nothing to do with women not being capable of doing so. It’s simply a demonstration of respect. They do the same for older people.

+1

My husband holds the door open for just about everyone. So does my brother. I do too -- I'm a woman but ES taught to hold doors, open car doors, offer to carry packages etc. for elderly people, female or male. Because...manners. And extra attention to the elderly. Or guests. Or just friends.

The angry "women don't need doors held for them!" folks seem threatened and insulted by those who would offer respect. I guess it's seen as disrespectful or infantilizing. It's not coming from that place at all -- unless you choose to put that interpretation on it. But that's coming from those PPs, not from the door-openers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Women / Girls don't need a car door opened for them. It is very patriarchal and not someone people do now. Girls can open their own car doors believe it or not!

+1

I'd be turned off by a man who did this.

I would see it as a sign of kindness, consideration and respect.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Women / Girls don't need a car door opened for them. It is very patriarchal and not someone people do now. Girls can open their own car doors believe it or not!

Why can’t people be nice without it being turned into a sexist act of disrespect.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Women / Girls don't need a car door opened for them. It is very patriarchal and not someone people do now. Girls can open their own car doors believe it or not!

+1

I'd be turned off by a man who did this.

I would see it as a sign of kindness, consideration and respect.

Anonymous wrote:My boys (now young adults) always hold the doors open for women. They’ll also offer their seats, stand when a woman approaches them, etc. It has nothing to do with women not being capable of doing so. It’s simply a demonstration of respect. They do the same for older people.

Anonymous wrote:Weird. Women / Girls don't need a car door opened for them. It is very patriarchal and not someone people do now. Girls can open their own car doors believe it or not!