Anonymous
03/05/2020 11:53
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Not my sister's experience at all.
Cite your source for this comment.
+1 some people have said it’s actually easier because maternity leave is covered by a central pool, so the cost doesn’t fall in the individual firm.
This is what Americans tell themselves to make themselves feel better about the miserable parental leave policies in this country.
They would lose their minds if they saw all the female politicians in Sweden. They would lose their minds if they saw all the female participation in Swedish companies and law firms. Meanwhile in the US, there’s almost no 40 year old women working in law firms. Everyone who has the financial means to quit do so.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 11:51
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Depends on what you want and what your education level is. For a highly educated person, you can probably get more here and negotiate a better salary and work life balance. If you are sort of mediocre in terms of skills, then sweden is probably better.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 11:49
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Interesting... Is that why they have significantly higher rates of women participating in the labor force than almost all developed countries?
(Much higher than the US FYI)
Anonymous
03/05/2020 11:37
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
You don’t know what you’re talking about as this is not true at all.
Sorry, maybe you want to believe that to make yourself feel better about how awful parental leave policies are in the U.S. but it’s just incorrect.
Sweden is a very women friendly and family friendly place unlike the U.S.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 11:33
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Not my sister's experience at all.
Cite your source for this comment.
Not my sister in law’s experience either. In fact, she had many job offers both before and after having kids/taking parental leave.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 10:59
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:I'd rather be in the USA and choose to work for a company with work life balance if that's what I desire in my life versus being forced to subsidize Sarah Sweden.
Ok Ivanka.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 10:50
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Not my sister's experience at all.
Cite your source for this comment.
+1 some people have said it’s actually easier because maternity leave is covered by a central pool, so the cost doesn’t fall in the individual firm.
I have heard that there's data showing taking more than 6 months of leave does impact your career negatively. That being said I've lived in the U.K., at the time I lived there women were entitled to 12 months (and plenty took it in my organization) and I had no trouble getting a job.
That’s a different issue from saying that women don’t get hired in Sweden because they will take a longer maternity leave. Be precise and cite your data.
Wow, someone is a bit snippy this morning. This is based on an expert on this topic whom I worked with briefly. The expert is a huge advocate for paid family leave btw, so I found it fairly credible. Because of this I don't have the citations, but google is your friend: https://hbr.org/2018/09/do-longer-maternity-leaves-hurt-womens-careers
Anonymous
03/05/2020 10:40
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Not my sister's experience at all.
Cite your source for this comment.
+1 some people have said it’s actually easier because maternity leave is covered by a central pool, so the cost doesn’t fall in the individual firm.
I have heard that there's data showing taking more than 6 months of leave does impact your career negatively. That being said I've lived in the U.K., at the time I lived there women were entitled to 12 months (and plenty took it in my organization) and I had no trouble getting a job.
That’s a different issue from saying that women don’t get hired in Sweden because they will take a longer maternity leave. Be precise and cite your data.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 10:32
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Not my sister's experience at all.
Cite your source for this comment.
+1 some people have said it’s actually easier because maternity leave is covered by a central pool, so the cost doesn’t fall in the individual firm.
I have heard that there's data showing taking more than 6 months of leave does impact your career negatively. That being said I've lived in the U.K., at the time I lived there women were entitled to 12 months (and plenty took it in my organization) and I had no trouble getting a job.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 10:10
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Not my sister's experience at all.
Cite your source for this comment.
+1 some people have said it’s actually easier because maternity leave is covered by a central pool, so the cost doesn’t fall in the individual firm.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 10:09
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:I mean I see this, but I still would rather be in the US. I like my lower tax rate and higher pay. I did not have paid maternity. My life is more similar to Sarah from Seattle. I did 12 weeks LWOP during maternity and they didn't hire anyone on a detail which killed my productivity when I return. The piles still haven't disappeared and my baby is now 12 months old. I might never catch up.
you have an incredible amount of work stress and only got to stay home with your baby for 3 months with no pay but you’re still preferring your life with “lower taxes”? Smh
Anonymous
03/05/2020 09:47
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:I'd rather be in the USA and choose to work for a company with work life balance if that's what I desire in my life versus being forced to subsidize Sarah Sweden.
Yes, because everyone has such a "choice" easily available.
So you would rather subsidize Wal*Mart and Amazon?
Anonymous
03/05/2020 09:46
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Not my sister's experience at all.
Cite your source for this comment.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 09:45
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
I'd rather be in the USA and choose to work for a company with work life balance if that's what I desire in my life versus being forced to subsidize Sarah Sweden.
Anonymous
03/05/2020 09:40
Subject: Two Sarahs: new motherhood in Sweden vs Seattle
Anonymous wrote:It's very hard to get hired as a woman in Sweden for this reason.
Source? Wasn’t the Sarah in the article hired at two companies?