Anonymous
02/29/2020 16:20
Subject: PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight-I'm driving the speed limit, looking forward mostly but also around and someone walks out suddenly into the street at night wearing all black and I hit them it's my fault?????? That 's some strange ass logic there.
If you had adequate time to stop (given the weather conditions) and you didn't because you were not paying adequate attention or were driving too fast for the weather and light conditions, then yes, it's your fault. The speed limit isn't a minimum -- you can be ticketed for going too fast for road conditions. You know that intersections are coming up, it's your job to be aware. (If they literally jumped in front of you, then no, it wouldn't be your fault.)
But it's just nuts to me that someone asks drivers to be extra careful in the rain, and a bunch of people come on and try to assert that they are right and justified to hit pedestrians. No, you're not. If you can't drive safely unless pedestrians are lit up like Christmas trees, then you can't drive safely.
Anonymous
02/29/2020 09:39
Subject: PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
So let me get this straight-I'm driving the speed limit, looking forward mostly but also around and someone walks out suddenly into the street at night wearing all black and I hit them it's my fault?????? That 's some strange ass logic there.
Anonymous
02/28/2020 09:28
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Realistically, everyone’s primary instinct is to protect themselves. The biggest danger to drivers is other cars, so they will always be focused primarily on other cars. It is suicidal for pedestrians (and cyclists) to think that this basic human instinct can be changed. Drivers need to actively stay aware of this but in high stress situations it’s always going to be unpredictable. If things go wrong who is going to end up in the hospital (or worse)?
I don't know ANYBODY who walks or bikes, who believes that a driver hitting them isn't a danger. Do you?
I don't ever want to hear, ever again, that people walking or people biking must take more care than people driving. People who believe that shouldn't be allowed to drive, because they're a public menace.
Well good luck with that
As the PP below points out - when the argument is that drivers can't drive safely, the logical conclusion is that there needs to be a whole lot less driving.
Anonymous
02/28/2020 09:22
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Realistically, everyone’s primary instinct is to protect themselves. The biggest danger to drivers is other cars, so they will always be focused primarily on other cars. It is suicidal for pedestrians (and cyclists) to think that this basic human instinct can be changed. Drivers need to actively stay aware of this but in high stress situations it’s always going to be unpredictable. If things go wrong who is going to end up in the hospital (or worse)?
Thank you for making the case for adopting policies to reduce driving. DC should adopt a congestion charge, we should eliminate parking minimums on new development (and implement parking maximums!) and adopt road diets.
If that doesn't work - BAN CARS!
My pleasure! And in the meantime I will preemptively nominate you guys for a Darwin Award.
Eh? I have multiple lights, and lots of Hi Viz clothing.
I can still call out jerks. And work for change. For the latter, you inspire me!
Anonymous
02/28/2020 09:01
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Realistically, everyone’s primary instinct is to protect themselves. The biggest danger to drivers is other cars, so they will always be focused primarily on other cars. It is suicidal for pedestrians (and cyclists) to think that this basic human instinct can be changed. Drivers need to actively stay aware of this but in high stress situations it’s always going to be unpredictable. If things go wrong who is going to end up in the hospital (or worse)?
Thank you for making the case for adopting policies to reduce driving. DC should adopt a congestion charge, we should eliminate parking minimums on new development (and implement parking maximums!) and adopt road diets.
If that doesn't work - BAN CARS!
My pleasure! And in the meantime I will preemptively nominate you guys for a Darwin Award.
Anonymous
02/28/2020 08:48
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Realistically, everyone’s primary instinct is to protect themselves. The biggest danger to drivers is other cars, so they will always be focused primarily on other cars. It is suicidal for pedestrians (and cyclists) to think that this basic human instinct can be changed. Drivers need to actively stay aware of this but in high stress situations it’s always going to be unpredictable. If things go wrong who is going to end up in the hospital (or worse)?
Thank you for making the case for adopting policies to reduce driving. DC should adopt a congestion charge, we should eliminate parking minimums on new development (and implement parking maximums!) and adopt road diets.
If that doesn't work - BAN CARS!
Anonymous
02/28/2020 08:27
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Realistically, everyone’s primary instinct is to protect themselves. The biggest danger to drivers is other cars, so they will always be focused primarily on other cars. It is suicidal for pedestrians (and cyclists) to think that this basic human instinct can be changed. Drivers need to actively stay aware of this but in high stress situations it’s always going to be unpredictable. If things go wrong who is going to end up in the hospital (or worse)?
I don't know ANYBODY who walks or bikes, who believes that a driver hitting them isn't a danger. Do you?
I don't ever want to hear, ever again, that people walking or people biking must take more care than people driving. People who believe that shouldn't be allowed to drive, because they're a public menace.
Well good luck with that
Anonymous
02/28/2020 08:21
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Realistically, everyone’s primary instinct is to protect themselves. The biggest danger to drivers is other cars, so they will always be focused primarily on other cars. It is suicidal for pedestrians (and cyclists) to think that this basic human instinct can be changed. Drivers need to actively stay aware of this but in high stress situations it’s always going to be unpredictable. If things go wrong who is going to end up in the hospital (or worse)?
I don't know ANYBODY who walks or bikes, who believes that a driver hitting them isn't a danger. Do you?
I don't ever want to hear, ever again, that people walking or people biking must take more care than people driving. People who believe that shouldn't be allowed to drive, because they're a public menace.
Anonymous
02/28/2020 08:13
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Realistically, everyone’s primary instinct is to protect themselves. The biggest danger to drivers is other cars, so they will always be focused primarily on other cars. It is suicidal for pedestrians (and cyclists) to think that this basic human instinct can be changed. Drivers need to actively stay aware of this but in high stress situations it’s always going to be unpredictable. If things go wrong who is going to end up in the hospital (or worse)?
Anonymous
02/27/2020 21:55
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Nope. Pedestrians are dangers only to themselves. Drivers are dangers to themselves and others. Therefore, drivers should be more careful because they can harm others as well as themselves.
Also, driving is a privilege; walking is a right.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 20:04
Subject: PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
We have terrible crosswalks. There are a ton near me that
A) do not have reflective paint
B) do not have a signal attached to them
C) are in the middle of very busy streets that have a lot of lights on the buildings or high up, so the crosswalk is t obvious due to the other visually distracting objects
And then add in people in non-reflective clothing and you have a recipe for disaster, especially if it’s night or raining.
Arlington thinks it’s done a good deed by slapping some paint on the road in the middle of busy streets, but almost none of them have the associated pedestrian-activated signal to start the flashing lights. You may be able to cross Washington Boulevard or Fairfax Drive at a crosswalk, but you’re crazy to do so, especially on Washington where there is no parking or curb lane. You can’t be seen.
A) do not have reflective paint
B) do not have a signal attached to them
C) are in the middle of very busy streets that have a lot of lights on the buildings or high up, so the crosswalk is t obvious due to the other visually distracting objects
And then add in people in non-reflective clothing and you have a recipe for disaster, especially if it’s night or raining.
Arlington thinks it’s done a good deed by slapping some paint on the road in the middle of busy streets, but almost none of them have the associated pedestrian-activated signal to start the flashing lights. You may be able to cross Washington Boulevard or Fairfax Drive at a crosswalk, but you’re crazy to do so, especially on Washington where there is no parking or curb lane. You can’t be seen.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 19:49
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Calm down everyone. I'm pretty sure the Range Rover comment was a joke.
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Between cars and pedestrians, a car will always win. Therefore, pedestrians should be more careful since they have a lot more to lose. Not giving drivers an excuse to do what they want but would you rather be flattened (and right) or alive (and still able to comment on DCUM)?
Anonymous
02/27/2020 19:42
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Were they driving an expensive car? https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/world/expensive-car-drivers-study-scli-scn-intl/index.html
This has something to do with it.
As well as pedestrians all wearing black or gray.Put some color on people, or some reflective tape. It might help the fast driving jerks see you.
People wear black. If you can't see people wearing black, you're driving too fast. Slow down.
Not to mention the times that I've been out in hi vis, with lights, and people behind the wheel of motor vehicles still apparently couldn't see me...
In the dark? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. If you can't see people who are wearing black in the dark, then you're driving too fast, and you should slow down.
Assuming that your goal is to avoid hitting people while driving, that is.
Anonymous
02/27/2020 15:08
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Were they driving an expensive car? https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/world/expensive-car-drivers-study-scli-scn-intl/index.html
This has something to do with it.
As well as pedestrians all wearing black or gray.Put some color on people, or some reflective tape. It might help the fast driving jerks see you.
People wear black. If you can't see people wearing black, you're driving too fast. Slow down. In the dark? Seriously?
Not to mention the times that I've been out in hi vis, with lights, and people behind the wheel of motor vehicles still apparently couldn't see me...
Anonymous
02/26/2020 19:33
Subject: Re:PSA for drivers: Please be extra careful dirving in the rain to look out for pedestrians
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Were they driving an expensive car? https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/world/expensive-car-drivers-study-scli-scn-intl/index.html
This has something to do with it.
As well as pedestrians all wearing black or gray.Put some color on people, or some reflective tape. It might help the fast driving jerks see you.
People wear black. If you can't see people wearing black, you're driving too fast. Slow down.
Not to mention the times that I've been out in hi vis, with lights, and people behind the wheel of motor vehicles still apparently couldn't see me...