Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:20     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to call yourself anything?

Just say you don't work outside the home.


This.

And nobody says “full time mom”
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:20     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I say Lady of Leisure. It has a certain “Je ne sais pas” as well as inviting more questions. Great when you know you are about to be asked “but aren’t you bored? I would be SO BORED” by someone who sits in a cubical all day.


So basically, you are just as bad as the person who asked you the question. You don't know what they do in their cubicle. Get off your high horse.


Lady of Leisure here, and I totally agree with you. No idea what they do in their cubicle all day and they have no idea what I do with my time all day.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:17     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who says you need a “special passion” in order to have a job?

I would guess that most people don’t consider their jobs their passions and that is all right. They are satisfied with the knowledge that they are contributing to the world and their families.

Just get a job, anything.


You could contribute to the world by -
- recycling
- not eating meat
- not having more than two kids
- not using fertilizer, herbicide or pesticide
- making sure your kids are doing well academically
- volunteering
- driving a Prius
- eating local and organic produce
- not being obese
- walking more
- being educated
-not being on dole
- not wasting
- planting trees...

All of this is not what most WOH women do. So in essence they are not contributing to the world. Most importantly, if you have a high HHI, please do not take a low paying job that someone might need to sustain their family. Do not snatch the bread from the mouth of kids born in low HHI households.


BLESS YOU for taking away all my guilt about not getting a low-paying job. I’m not sure all economists would agree that this is exactly how things shake out on a macro level but I am just going to run with it.

As to the OP, I call myself a stay at home mom and quickly change the topic.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:14     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:Who says you need a “special passion” in order to have a job?

I would guess that most people don’t consider their jobs their passions and that is all right. They are satisfied with the knowledge that they are contributing to the world and their families.

Just get a job, anything.


You could contribute to the world by -
- recycling
- not eating meat
- not having more than two kids
- not using fertilizer, herbicide or pesticide
- making sure your kids are doing well academically
- volunteering
- driving a Prius
- eating local and organic produce
- not being obese
- walking more
- being educated
-not being on dole
- not wasting
- planting trees...

All of this is not what most WOH women do. So in essence they are not contributing to the world. Most importantly, if you have a high HHI, please do not take a low paying job that someone might need to sustain their family. Do not snatch the bread from the mouth of kids born in low HHI households.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:11     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:I work now, but when I didn’t, I just said (if asked) “I don’t have a job.”

In think it’s particular capitalistic to insist that a person work if they don’t need the money. Is my only value to the world a paycheck? There are actually very few “jobs” that add value to the world, most jobs just push paper around and destroy the environment. My office building actually THROWS away half finished rolls of toilet paper (yes I stalk the janitor’s cart).

There is a weird irony in vilifying women who are caregivers and volunteers instead of corporate worker bees. I’m all for women working if they are improving the world with their job - I’m looking at you Margaret Atwood - but insisting that the world needs a random corporate lawyer over an involved and loving parent isn’t feminism, it’s illogical.


Have you ever had a hard time internalizing this? For my family it truly makes the most sense for me not to work for a pay check and I don’t but I feel incredibly guilty about it.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:11     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:I say Lady of Leisure. It has a certain “Je ne sais pas” as well as inviting more questions. Great when you know you are about to be asked “but aren’t you bored? I would be SO BORED” by someone who sits in a cubical all day.


So basically, you are just as bad as the person who asked you the question. You don't know what they do in their cubicle. Get off your high horse.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:09     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

I say Lady of Leisure. It has a certain “Je ne sais pas” as well as inviting more questions. Great when you know you are about to be asked “but aren’t you bored? I would be SO BORED” by someone who sits in a cubical all day.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:05     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:Who says you need a “special passion” in order to have a job?

I would guess that most people don’t consider their jobs their passions and that is all right. They are satisfied with the knowledge that they are contributing to the world and their families.

Just get a job, anything.


Lol. My special passion is a roof over my head, food on the table and clothes for my kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 18:03     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

I work now, but when I didn’t, I just said (if asked) “I don’t have a job.”

In think it’s particular capitalistic to insist that a person work if they don’t need the money. Is my only value to the world a paycheck? There are actually very few “jobs” that add value to the world, most jobs just push paper around and destroy the environment. My office building actually THROWS away half finished rolls of toilet paper (yes I stalk the janitor’s cart).

There is a weird irony in vilifying women who are caregivers and volunteers instead of corporate worker bees. I’m all for women working if they are improving the world with their job - I’m looking at you Margaret Atwood - but insisting that the world needs a random corporate lawyer over an involved and loving parent isn’t feminism, it’s illogical.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 17:45     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who says you need a “special passion” in order to have a job?

I would guess that most people don’t consider their jobs their passions and that is all right. They are satisfied with the knowledge that they are contributing to the world and their families.

Just get a job, anything.


If your family doesn’t benefit from the money, then how are you contributing to your family by working? You are just creating more stress, less flexibility, fewer vacations, and a smaller village of friends and extended family.


Doesn’t need the money /= couldn’t benefit from it


I am the pediatrician, not the OP, but I will tell you that our household would not benefit from the money.
So, if you take the money out of it, what’s the benefit of having two working parents? In my household, it would mean fewer holidays spent together, fewer family vacations, less time with extended family, and a higher stress level overall. So, I volunteer at a free clinic, but I don’t have a job outside the home.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 17:31     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

SAHM
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 17:26     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:Homemaker


Puke. That’s almost as bad as “housewife”.

Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 17:23     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who says you need a “special passion” in order to have a job?

I would guess that most people don’t consider their jobs their passions and that is all right. They are satisfied with the knowledge that they are contributing to the world and their families.

Just get a job, anything.


If your family doesn’t benefit from the money, then how are you contributing to your family by working? You are just creating more stress, less flexibility, fewer vacations, and a smaller village of friends and extended family.


Doesn’t need the money /= couldn’t benefit from it


Maybe they are in a better position to determine what will and will not be of benefit to their own household?

Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 16:57     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Homemaker
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 16:54     Subject: s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who says you need a “special passion” in order to have a job?

I would guess that most people don’t consider their jobs their passions and that is all right. They are satisfied with the knowledge that they are contributing to the world and their families.

Just get a job, anything.


If your family doesn’t benefit from the money, then how are you contributing to your family by working? You are just creating more stress, less flexibility, fewer vacations, and a smaller village of friends and extended family.


Doesn’t need the money /= couldn’t benefit from it