Anonymous
Post 02/25/2020 10:58     Subject: Tesla vs. Kona EV

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will be interesting to see how long tesla’s advantage for charging stations lasts esp on the east coast when it’s tesla vs everyone else


I don't see why it would ever be Tesla vs everyone else. Teslas can use "everyone else's" charging stations with adapters. Every Tesla comes with a J1772 adapter for free, and ChaDeMo adapters are a bit pricey ($350) but certainly exist. Meanwhile other cars cannot currently use Superchargers.

If (and it's a big if) "everyone else" ever starts getting equal to Supercharger convenience, speed, and price, Tesla owners can just switch to them if they want. The better "everyone else" gets, the better it gets for Tesla owners.


Yes but at some point the infrastructure for everyone else could get good enough that "better" won't make a material difference.


Tesla currently has over 12,000 chargers. Electrify America has about 2,000 equivalent fast chargers and Chargepoint has 1,900.

I guess it's technically possible for them to build so many as to make there not be a material difference, but it's not likely nor will it happen anytime soon.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2020 10:51     Subject: Tesla vs. Kona EV

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will be interesting to see how long tesla’s advantage for charging stations lasts esp on the east coast when it’s tesla vs everyone else


I don't see why it would ever be Tesla vs everyone else. Teslas can use "everyone else's" charging stations with adapters. Every Tesla comes with a J1772 adapter for free, and ChaDeMo adapters are a bit pricey ($350) but certainly exist. Meanwhile other cars cannot currently use Superchargers.

If (and it's a big if) "everyone else" ever starts getting equal to Supercharger convenience, speed, and price, Tesla owners can just switch to them if they want. The better "everyone else" gets, the better it gets for Tesla owners.


Yes but at some point the infrastructure for everyone else could get good enough that "better" won't make a material difference.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2020 09:59     Subject: Tesla vs. Kona EV

Anonymous wrote:Will be interesting to see how long tesla’s advantage for charging stations lasts esp on the east coast when it’s tesla vs everyone else


I don't see why it would ever be Tesla vs everyone else. Teslas can use "everyone else's" charging stations with adapters. Every Tesla comes with a J1772 adapter for free, and ChaDeMo adapters are a bit pricey ($350) but certainly exist. Meanwhile other cars cannot currently use Superchargers.

If (and it's a big if) "everyone else" ever starts getting equal to Supercharger convenience, speed, and price, Tesla owners can just switch to them if they want. The better "everyone else" gets, the better it gets for Tesla owners.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 21:35     Subject: Tesla vs. Kona EV

Will be interesting to see how long tesla’s advantage for charging stations lasts esp on the east coast when it’s tesla vs everyone else
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 12:59     Subject: Tesla vs. Kona EV

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you're only driving locally and need very little storage, the Kona is fine.
If you do any travel, go with the Tesla.


Which Tesla do you mean? The base model 3 has less storage and the same range. The AWD has better range but also less storage and quite a bit more expensive. The X and S have more range/storage but are WAY more expensive.


The storage is about the same when you factor in interior + trunk + frunk.
As for range, it's all about the Tesla Supercharger network. Many more charging options and speed when you're on a trip.


Agree and I prefer the Tesla but in terms of storage space, I think with seats up it's a 4 cu.ft. difference (2+ carry on bags). Not huge but does make some difference.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2020 12:30     Subject: Tesla vs. Kona EV

We looked at the Kona EV and wound up getting the Tesla Model 3 base model. For us, the biggest difference was lack of leg room in the back of the Kona. I am 5'4" and it was tight for me. Our kids are fast growing and need more leg room.

Plus the T3 has USBs in the back seat. Yes, it's a little thing, but again, kids want to use their electronics and charge them.