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Anonymous wrote:My son is a freshman at TJ this year.

We did not pay anything for test prep as it is not necessary.

We simply had him do a basic search on YouTube to see what type of questions FCPS asks.

IIRC, he watched just one video, and it was a free Kate Dalby video such as this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUdLnLljdAs


As for last year’s single question, my son reported while it was easy to solve, it was poorly worded. And he could see how it confused many test-takers.

We personally know one very bright child who was in his AAP class, who unfortunately ran out of time on last year’s test.

Do not buy in to the lie you have to purchase anything for admission to TJ; there are more than a dozen free videos if you simply look.

Also: please don’t push your kid into going. Let it be their choice.

I agree with most of the test prep advice but I think you can still guide your 13 year old children.

There are a lot of kids that will be bored to death at their base high school. These are the kids that should go to TJ.
If your kid got 98 or 99th percentile on the iowa test; got advanced pass on all (or nearly all) their SOLs; getting within 20 points of the max scores of 1142 and 1297 on their math inventory for 7th and 8th; grades; above an 1121 and 186 in reading lexile for 7th and 8th grade reading inventory respectively; hitting mostly 98th to 99th percentile on the iready, Cogat and NNAT in the 98th or 99th percentile, then you really should be encouraging your child to apply and attend if accepted. It's not the end of the world if they don't but they will be challenged at TJ in a way they will not be challenged at their base school.

Run with the swift.
Steel sharpens steel.

We believe these things when it comes to sports but suddenly lose faith in the concept when it comes to academics.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Curie has the questions you will see on this year’s test. Call them.

They probably won't have the questions, but they will be able to show you how to look smarter than you are by telling you how to solve them.

Rumor was they did in previous years. At least that was what some people said.

TJ students from Curie I've spoken to in those classes (2023 and 24) have agreed that the Quant-Q re-used a few questions from year to year on different forms, and therefore the 2024 Curie students did in fact see exact test questions as part of their signature TJ prep course.

The obvious implication is that some students from Curie's class of 2023 reported back from their exam having memorized some of the questions.

These kids have one chance to get into TJ and they spent time memorizing questions. Wow, that's dedication.

They're smart kids. They probably don't need to "spend time" memorizing a question in order to memorize it.

I took my and SAT in the 80s when the score scale was different and got a 1500+ and a 175+ on the LSAT in the 90s and I doubt I could recite many questions word for word after the test.
I could give you a very good idea of what sort of questions were asked and what the answers sort of looked like but not exact questions.
I later worked for Kaplan and there were people who took every SAT and LSAT professionally with a specific focus on trying to remember stuff from the test and they didn't remember exact questions. They remembered question structures and answer templates to help break down the test but these professional test takers couldn't remember the test questions to any significant degree. Eidetic memory is almost non-existent in adults and very very rare after the age of 10 or 12.

So I think the notion of a test bank is simply bullsh*t.
I can believe that Curie students had access to question types before others but by the next administration of the test, EVERYONE had that.
Trying to create a test you can't study for seems like a silly way to select for merit when diligence is a factor in merit.

You're comparing apples to oranges. They're completely different question types and tests. I would not have ben able to remember an LSAT question after taking the LSAT, even though I did very well on the LSAT. I could remember, however, a longer question prompt where I had to workout multiple parts and work through it, even though I do not have an eidetic memory.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Curie has the questions you will see on this year’s test. Call them.

They probably won't have the questions, but they will be able to show you how to look smarter than you are by telling you how to solve them.

Rumor was they did in previous years. At least that was what some people said.

TJ students from Curie I've spoken to in those classes (2023 and 24) have agreed that the Quant-Q re-used a few questions from year to year on different forms, and therefore the 2024 Curie students did in fact see exact test questions as part of their signature TJ prep course.

The obvious implication is that some students from Curie's class of 2023 reported back from their exam having memorized some of the questions.

These kids have one chance to get into TJ and they spent time memorizing questions. Wow, that's dedication.

They're smart kids. They probably don't need to "spend time" memorizing a question in order to memorize it.

I took my and SAT in the 80s when the score scale was different and got a 1500+ and a 175+ on the LSAT in the 90s and I doubt I could recite many questions word for word after the test.
I could give you a very good idea of what sort of questions were asked and what the answers sort of looked like but not exact questions.
I later worked for Kaplan and there were people who took every SAT and LSAT professionally with a specific focus on trying to remember stuff from the test and they didn't remember exact questions. They remembered question structures and answer templates to help break down the test but these professional test takers couldn't remember the test questions to any significant degree. Eidetic memory is almost non-existent in adults and very very rare after the age of 10 or 12.

So I think the notion of a test bank is simply bullsh*t.
I can believe that Curie students had access to question types before others but by the next administration of the test, EVERYONE had that.
Trying to create a test you can't study for seems like a silly way to select for merit when diligence is a factor in merit.

You're comparing apples to oranges. They're completely different question types and tests. I would not have ben able to remember an LSAT question after taking the LSAT, even though I did very well on the LSAT. I could remember, however, a longer question prompt where I had to workout multiple parts and work through it, even though I do not have an eidetic memory.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Curie has the questions you will see on this year’s test. Call them.

They probably won't have the questions, but they will be able to show you how to look smarter than you are by telling you how to solve them.

Rumor was they did in previous years. At least that was what some people said.

TJ students from Curie I've spoken to in those classes (2023 and 24) have agreed that the Quant-Q re-used a few questions from year to year on different forms, and therefore the 2024 Curie students did in fact see exact test questions as part of their signature TJ prep course.

The obvious implication is that some students from Curie's class of 2023 reported back from their exam having memorized some of the questions.

These kids have one chance to get into TJ and they spent time memorizing questions. Wow, that's dedication.

They're smart kids. They probably don't need to "spend time" memorizing a question in order to memorize it.

I took my and SAT in the 80s when the score scale was different and got a 1500+ and a 175+ on the LSAT in the 90s and I doubt I could recite many questions word for word after the test.
I could give you a very good idea of what sort of questions were asked and what the answers sort of looked like but not exact questions.
I later worked for Kaplan and there were people who took every SAT and LSAT professionally with a specific focus on trying to remember stuff from the test and they didn't remember exact questions. They remembered question structures and answer templates to help break down the test but these professional test takers couldn't remember the test questions to any significant degree. Eidetic memory is almost non-existent in adults and very very rare after the age of 10 or 12.

So I think the notion of a test bank is simply bullsh*t.
I can believe that Curie students had access to question types before others but by the next administration of the test, EVERYONE had that.
Trying to create a test you can't study for seems like a silly way to select for merit when diligence is a factor in merit.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Curie has the questions you will see on this year’s test. Call them.

They probably won't have the questions, but they will be able to show you how to look smarter than you are by telling you how to solve them.

Rumor was they did in previous years. At least that was what some people said.

TJ students from Curie I've spoken to in those classes (2023 and 24) have agreed that the Quant-Q re-used a few questions from year to year on different forms, and therefore the 2024 Curie students did in fact see exact test questions as part of their signature TJ prep course.

The obvious implication is that some students from Curie's class of 2023 reported back from their exam having memorized some of the questions.

These kids have one chance to get into TJ and they spent time memorizing questions. Wow, that's dedication.

They're smart kids. They probably don't need to "spend time" memorizing a question in order to memorize it.

Anonymous wrote:My son is a freshman at TJ this year.

We did not pay anything for test prep as it is not necessary.

We simply had him do a basic search on YouTube to see what type of questions FCPS asks.

IIRC, he watched just one video, and it was a free Kate Dalby video such as this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUdLnLljdAs


As for last year’s single question, my son reported while it was easy to solve, it was poorly worded. And he could see how it confused many test-takers.

We personally know one very bright child who was in his AAP class, who unfortunately ran out of time on last year’s test.

Do not buy in to the lie you have to purchase anything for admission to TJ; there are more than a dozen free videos if you simply look.

Also: please don’t push your kid into going. Let it be their choice.

Anonymous wrote:My DC wants some practice and I am wondering if you guys (or gals ) have any. It would be greatly appreciated.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Curie has the questions you will see on this year’s test. Call them.

They probably won't have the questions, but they will be able to show you how to look smarter than you are by telling you how to solve them.

Rumor was they did in previous years. At least that was what some people said.

TJ students from Curie I've spoken to in those classes (2023 and 24) have agreed that the Quant-Q re-used a few questions from year to year on different forms, and therefore the 2024 Curie students did in fact see exact test questions as part of their signature TJ prep course.

The obvious implication is that some students from Curie's class of 2023 reported back from their exam having memorized some of the questions.

These kids have one chance to get into TJ and they spent time memorizing questions. Wow, that's dedication.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect Curie has the questions you will see on this year’s test. Call them.

They probably won't have the questions, but they will be able to show you how to look smarter than you are by telling you how to solve them.

Rumor was they did in previous years. At least that was what some people said.

TJ students from Curie I've spoken to in those classes (2023 and 24) have agreed that the Quant-Q re-used a few questions from year to year on different forms, and therefore the 2024 Curie students did in fact see exact test questions as part of their signature TJ prep course.

The obvious implication is that some students from Curie's class of 2023 reported back from their exam having memorized some of the questions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect Curie has the questions you will see on this year’s test. Call them.

They probably won't have the questions, but they will be able to show you how to look smarter than you are by telling you how to solve them.

Rumor was they did in previous years. At least that was what some people said.