Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 09:49     Subject: 25-75%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So when I look at colleges, they list test scores and grades for the 25th-50th percentiles. That means another quarter of students are above the 75th percentile. What do students have in the bottom quarter? Do they tend to be URMs, recruited athletes, legacies?


All of the above and full pays.


Idiotic.....full pay at some schools might be a finger on the scale but it’s not going to get a 25% achiever admitted.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 09:43     Subject: Re:25-75%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My UMC no-hook white kid from NOVA got into UVA with below their 25th percentile on the SAT.


Not a shock— if their grades were good. uVA puts a lot more emphasis on GPA than SAT. WM puts more on SAT.


Graduated with a 4.01 GPA from an Arlington public high school. Lots of Bs but mainly in AP courses. Did not take Calculus. So-so extracurriculars, none involving leadership. Non athlete. Not a legacy.


Wow. that sound like a fluke. Unless at your school 4.01 GPA represents top 10% of the class? I don't see a green check anywhere below a 4.2 in the Naviance for our middle of the road FCPS school and the vast majority fall above 4.35.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 13:03     Subject: 25-75%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So when I look at colleges, they list test scores and grades for the 25th-50th percentiles. That means another quarter of students are above the 75th percentile. What do students have in the bottom quarter? Do they tend to be URMs, recruited athletes, legacies?


All of the above and full pays.


Full pay doesn't get you in below 25%
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 12:33     Subject: 25-75%
Oh just thought of another..campus visits count towards admission criteria at some schools. If you are poor/struggling you won’t make those advance visits.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 11:07     Subject: Re:25-75%
Anonymous wrote:"I don’t care what they say no school is completely need blind."

Likely, you are, sort of, correct. But isn't the real question about why you are correct?

Do you think there is a particular set of students that have attributes that prevent them from being admitted in a need blind way
or are you just saying that in a particular year if a school's endowment takes a big enough hit, they can't be need blind?







I think if you are in the 99.99999%- yes it's need blind.
Admissions is stacked against kids who have need and are just an "average" Ivy kid. Examples:
ED- you commit regardless of aid benefits the wealthy
Sportsman that cater to the wealthy are given preference in admissions (Crew, Golf, Tennis)
I'm not an insider but I'm sure there are many other ways.



Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 10:52     Subject: 25-75%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So when I look at colleges, they list test scores and grades for the 25th-50th percentiles. That means another quarter of students are above the 75th percentile. What do students have in the bottom quarter? Do they tend to be URMs, recruited athletes, legacies?


All of the above and full pays.


Not at need-blind schools, which includes all of the Ivies, many top publics (including UVA), and many top SLACs.


I don’t care what they say no school is completely need blind.


Evidence?

And don’t link to that Bev Taylor article, she charges the Chinese $1M for that advice. Also it has no evidence in it.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 10:49     Subject: Re:25-75%
"I don’t care what they say no school is completely need blind."

Likely, you are, sort of, correct. But isn't the real question about why you are correct?

Do you think there is a particular set of students that have attributes that prevent them from being admitted in a need blind way
or are you just saying that in a particular year if a school's endowment takes a big enough hit, they can't be need blind?





Anonymous
Post 01/26/2020 10:29     Subject: 25-75%
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So when I look at colleges, they list test scores and grades for the 25th-50th percentiles. That means another quarter of students are above the 75th percentile. What do students have in the bottom quarter? Do they tend to be URMs, recruited athletes, legacies?


All of the above and full pays.


Not at need-blind schools, which includes all of the Ivies, many top publics (including UVA), and many top SLACs.


I don’t care what they say no school is completely need blind.