Anonymous wrote:What's everybody jumping up and down about? UVA is a much tougher admit.

NO its not... and UT is better and Austin is better.

Why does UVA have to make every college thread about them?

Anonymous wrote:Apparently that is what UT claims...

Seems implausible given the high stat rejects posted on CC, the UT admissions reddit, etc

My kid applied, lot of family in the area, solid all-around stats, much higher than 1375 SAT. Reject. Now this was engineering which is probably among the more competitive majors.

There is quite a bit of discussion on the internet re: how the UT system of admission messes with their average test score data. A significant chunk of the student body is made up of the top 6-7% (depending on the year) graduates of Texas high schools, with no consideration for test scores. This includes kids from poor school districts that may not have the resources for test prep and/or they know they're UT bound, so they have no incentive to maximize their scores.

Apparently, what school you're applying for matters greatly. UT has to admit all of the top Texas HS grads, but they do not have to guarantee them admittance to a specific school, and that's where test scores come into play. It appears that UT is much more likely to admit the higher scoring kids into the program they requested, whether from in or out of state, in an attempt to get them to actually attend. So, for example, the business school can be a much harder admit than others.

The University is limited to no more than 10% attending from out of state (not admitted), so they have to be very careful about the # of out of state admits. The last # I saw reported for out of state students in an entering class was less than 900. Out of that 900 will be recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I couldn't find out how many out of state athletes there are, but I would guess it's a relatively high proportion, since the overall #of out of state admits is relatively small. (In comparison, out of state students made up 48% of the Michigan student body in 2016.) The middle 50% score is 1290-1460, which is a pretty wide range. In other words, I wouldn't count on getting into the UT Business School from out of state with a 1400 SAT unless you have some other hook.

Apparently that is what UT claims...

Seems implausible given the high stat rejects posted on CC, the UT admissions reddit, etc

My kid applied, lot of family in the area, solid all-around stats, much higher than 1375 SAT. Reject. Now this was engineering which is probably among the more competitive majors.

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Anonymous wrote:It is sh**-hard to get into UT from out of state - it's a great school, and they set aside so many seats for in-staters. Whoever did get in - kudos - have fun! Austin is a great town, UT is a great school - you'll find your people eventually, and you'll definitely have your horizons broadened.

What? The average SAT for OOS admissions last year was 1375. A fine score, but far from elite or hard to get.

Source of this info? Seems highly improbable. In fact I'll just say straight up false unless you have data. I doubt even a lot of OOS athlete admits could skew it that low.

They had 53,000 applications. Wild guess but maybe 3-4000 OOS accepted?

Even 1375 for enrollees seems impossibly low (many OOS TX admits have other choices obv.)

You're evidently not very good at the internet. Very easy to find.

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Anonymous wrote:It is sh**-hard to get into UT from out of state - it's a great school, and they set aside so many seats for in-staters. Whoever did get in - kudos - have fun! Austin is a great town, UT is a great school - you'll find your people eventually, and you'll definitely have your horizons broadened.

What? The average SAT for OOS admissions last year was 1375. A fine score, but far from elite or hard to get.

Source of this info? Seems highly improbable. In fact I'll just say straight up false unless you have data. I doubt even a lot of OOS athlete admits could skew it that low.

They had 53,000 applications. Wild guess but maybe 3-4000 OOS accepted?

Even 1375 for enrollees seems impossibly low (many OOS TX admits have other choices obv.)

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Anonymous wrote:A really undervalued school. Guessing many people in the DMV stay away because of the undeserved mediocre ranking.

I think many people from here have negative stereotypes about Texas...TBH

+1 - I am astounded by how negative the stereotypes here are about Texas. Texas has great schools, great food, great culture. I think people let the conservative politics of the last twenty years color their views - but forget or never knew the politics prior - and overlook that VA and MD have similar politics in various corners of those fair states. Many of the cities are vibrant and decidedly not conservative (Houston, Dallas, Austin). I would be proud to have a child apply and get in at Rice, UT-Austin, Texas A&M, and others.

I agree. I'm the PP who's DC was accepted to UT Austin from the DMV. Many of the negative stereotypes are from people who have never stepped foot in Texas. I'm a born and raised Yankee who has lived in eight cities in the US. We lived in Houston for two years and I unexpectedly LOVED it! Houston was wonderfully diverse (of course HUGE Mexican/Mexican-American population as well as large Indian population which was great because DH is from India). Texans work hard and play hard and are among the friendliest people in the country. It was the easiest place to make friends out of all the cities we've lived in. Plus so much creativity comes out of that state and we'd be very happy to have our kid "gone to Texas!!"

Anonymous wrote:It is sh**-hard to get into UT from out of state - it's a great school, and they set aside so many seats for in-staters. Whoever did get in - kudos - have fun! Austin is a great town, UT is a great school - you'll find your people eventually, and you'll definitely have your horizons broadened.

What? The average SAT for OOS admissions last year was 1375. A fine score, but far from elite or hard to get.

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Anonymous wrote:A really undervalued school. Guessing many people in the DMV stay away because of the undeserved mediocre ranking.

I think many people from here have negative stereotypes about Texas...TBH

+1 - I am astounded by how negative the stereotypes here are about Texas. Texas has great schools, great food, great culture. I think people let the conservative politics of the last twenty years color their views - but forget or never knew the politics prior - and overlook that VA and MD have similar politics in various corners of those fair states. Many of the cities are vibrant and decidedly not conservative (Houston, Dallas, Austin). I would be proud to have a child apply and get in at Rice, UT-Austin, Texas A&M, and others.

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Anonymous wrote:The think about the poor guy with a 1550 who graduates 2nd in his class of 25 at some rural Texas school.

Ouch.

There are many, many slots left open for non-auto admits at UT-Austin (and the other Texas schools). If you’re outside of the top 6% it just means you’re not *automatically* admitted. The SAT range for auto admits is 1150-1400, while the range for non-auto admits from Texas is 1210-1420 — so it’s not like it’s even that hard.

Were you under the impression that you have to be in the top 6% otherwise you’re automatically rejected?

Not at all. But its a bit unfair that he would even have to compete while the 50th ranked kid at some big school gets auto admitted. Its just a bad system.

And if anyone doubts the difficulty, go peruse UT Austin on CC or reddit

The system is just more formal and transparent than other state schools’ systems. We know that at UVA, for example, there are informal limits to how many NoVa students will be admitted vs SW Virginians, and yes the NoVa students often have higher GPAs and test scores.

I’ve been looking for this info about UVA forever. Can you link to it?

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Anonymous wrote:The think about the poor guy with a 1550 who graduates 2nd in his class of 25 at some rural Texas school.

Ouch.

There are many, many slots left open for non-auto admits at UT-Austin (and the other Texas schools). If you’re outside of the top 6% it just means you’re not *automatically* admitted. The SAT range for auto admits is 1150-1400, while the range for non-auto admits from Texas is 1210-1420 — so it’s not like it’s even that hard.

Were you under the impression that you have to be in the top 6% otherwise you’re automatically rejected?

Not at all. But its a bit unfair that he would even have to compete while the 50th ranked kid at some big school gets auto admitted. Its just a bad system.

And if anyone doubts the difficulty, go peruse UT Austin on CC or reddit

The system is just more formal and transparent than other state schools’ systems. We know that at UVA, for example, there are informal limits to how many NoVa students will be admitted vs SW Virginians, and yes the NoVa students often have higher GPAs and test scores.

Anonymous wrote:A really undervalued school. Guessing many people in the DMV stay away because of the undeserved mediocre ranking.

I think many people from here have negative stereotypes about Texas...TBH

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Anonymous wrote:The think about the poor guy with a 1550 who graduates 2nd in his class of 25 at some rural Texas school.

Ouch.

There are many, many slots left open for non-auto admits at UT-Austin (and the other Texas schools). If you’re outside of the top 6% it just means you’re not *automatically* admitted. The SAT range for auto admits is 1150-1400, while the range for non-auto admits from Texas is 1210-1420 — so it’s not like it’s even that hard.

Were you under the impression that you have to be in the top 6% otherwise you’re automatically rejected?

Not at all. But its a bit unfair that he would even have to compete while the 50th ranked kid at some big school gets auto admitted. Its just a bad system.

And if anyone doubts the difficulty, go peruse UT Austin on CC or reddit

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Anonymous wrote:The think about the poor guy with a 1550 who graduates 2nd in his class of 25 at some rural Texas school.

Ouch.

There are many, many slots left open for non-auto admits at UT-Austin (and the other Texas schools). If you’re outside of the top 6% it just means you’re not *automatically* admitted. The SAT range for auto admits is 1150-1400, while the range for non-auto admits from Texas is 1210-1420 — so it’s not like it’s even that hard.

Were you under the impression that you have to be in the top 6% otherwise you’re automatically rejected?

It would be interesting to see the SAT range for the non-auto admits when recruited athletes and others with "hooks" (no pun intended) are taken out.

The cap is on out of state students (no more than 10%). That includes all out of state football, volleyball, etc players, as well as international students.

Also, as others have noted, certain schools (e.g., business) are harder to get into than others.

UT OOS tuition is $36 to $42k, depending on course of study. Michigan OOS is $51 to $54. UVA is $49-59 (ouch).

Anonymous wrote:Bloodbath.

Sorry your kid didn’t get in. What’s Plan B?

They have been letting people in EA for about 3 weeks now.