Anonymous
01/14/2020 20:13
Subject: Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:17:21, teaching is definitely a safety related job. We are held accountable if children are injured if we aren’t paying attention. We can even be held accountable for not mentioned our suspicions of emotional harm. But no one is writing teachers up for sitting down for a moment.
No but 9:38 apparently wants to burn teachers at the stake for it … I know she is just another whack job parent but she needs to get a grip. She is making the rest of us parents look bad by her extreme position.
We cannot equate the general safe-keeping and care by teachers with that required by police officers, doctors and nurses, the military, etc., for the general public Teachers have a general role in keeping kids safe but it is nothing like those other professions. Sheesh. And even those folks get breaks.
Perfect DCUM moment: I am 09:38! I teach in a Title I School.
I distinguish between the person who takes a few moments’ break to sit and catch their breath and the people I see actually slacking off during class while poor kids are not learning. No one is being put on a performance plan for sitting for a few minutes, but the teachers who don’t make lesson plans and just wing it or play a movie every Friday... Yeah, I will always come after them. I was a poor kid and school was my salvation.
Anonymous
01/14/2020 19:44
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Many parents don’t think their child is their responsibility while he is at school. They will tell you that.
Anonymous
01/14/2020 18:23
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Do you have to call them or is email ok?
Most parents don't provide email addresses. Email would be easier.
NP. Most of them at my Title One don't have working numbers or send any calls from the school straight to voicemail.
Why would they send it to voicemail? Is it because their kid is absent from school a lot so getting many calls? I wouldn’t think the school would call unless it was something substantial.
Some parents feel like what happens at school is our problem, not theirs. They've written their kids off, and have no desire to work together. Other parents are "tired" of getting calls. We have to do so much paperwork when it comes to kids who have issues with grades, attendance, or behavior that the parents get bombarded with phone calls. Every teacher has to call, so it's not unheard of for a parent to get multiple calls in a day regarding one (or more) of those issues. My principal said he wants us to bombard the parents with information ("Annoy them") and document every call, so that they can't play ignorant when it comes time for grades. It doesn't matter how much we call, there's always an angry mob saying that they didn't know the child was failing, so they're demanding grade changes.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 23:59
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Do you have to call them or is email ok?
Most parents don't provide email addresses. Email would be easier.
NP. Most of them at my Title One don't have working numbers or send any calls from the school straight to voicemail.
Why would they send it to voicemail? Is it because their kid is absent from school a lot so getting many calls? I wouldn’t think the school would call unless it was something substantial.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 22:00
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Same here with the difficult getting in touch with parents. Very frustrating.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 21:26
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Do you have to call them or is email ok?
Most parents don't provide email addresses. Email would be easier.
NP. Most of them at my Title One don't have working numbers or send any calls from the school straight to voicemail.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 07:43
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Do you have to call them or is email ok?
Most parents don't provide email addresses. Email would be easier.
Anonymous
01/13/2020 06:40
Subject: Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:17:21, teaching is definitely a safety related job. We are held accountable if children are injured if we aren’t paying attention. We can even be held accountable for not mentioned our suspicions of emotional harm. But no one is writing teachers up for sitting down for a moment.
No but 9:38 apparently wants to burn teachers at the stake for it … I know she is just another whack job parent but she needs to get a grip. She is making the rest of us parents look bad by her extreme position.
We cannot equate the general safe-keeping and care by teachers with that required by police officers, doctors and nurses, the military, etc., for the general public Teachers have a general role in keeping kids safe but it is nothing like those other professions. Sheesh. And even those folks get breaks.
Anonymous
01/12/2020 21:04
Subject: Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
17:21, teaching is definitely a safety related job. We are held accountable if children are injured if we aren’t paying attention. We can even be held accountable for not mentioned our suspicions of emotional harm. But no one is writing teachers up for sitting down for a moment.
Anonymous
01/12/2020 20:10
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Do you have to call them or is email ok?
Anonymous
01/12/2020 18:48
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
I hear these comments about slacking off and the teachers I know are all incredibly dedicated and hardworking, I don't know anyone who isn't. But I know there are parents who believe that. And that's all fine, but I'm not sure how aware parents are that the teacher shortage is hitting schools hard. Not just in special ed or bilingual, as there always has been. But in gen ed, in desirable schools, and in desirable positions. My school, which used to get hundreds of excellent candidates for each and every open position is now getting only a half a dozen even remotely qualified candidates. NONE of them look awesome. We used to try to get people to retire early to be able to hire cheaper, younger teachers as our staff used to be very experienced. Now? We're trying to get the 60 year old 2nd grade teacher who has been doing it for nearly 40 years to stay one more year. It's crazy. I know that bad schools in bad areas have often had this issue, but to see it in a nice suburb? Not a rich one with insane parents, not a poor one, with more needs than resources. Just a nice, middle and approaching upper income suburb, with nice kids, nice families and a fabulous administrator.
I can only hope the teacher shortage will lead to pay raises to keep the rest of us!
I can only hope the teacher shortage will lead to pay raises to keep the rest of us!
Anonymous
01/12/2020 17:21
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Even nurses sit down on occasion. As do soldiers. Your hyperbolic and hysterical response is indicative of the pressure that teachers are under from off-the-wall parents. Nurses, doctors, police and military all work in professions involving safety. Teachers don't. Back off and you'll probably get a much better response from the teachers at your child's school. As a mom of 7, you're the kind of parent I run from when I see you in car line. Yikes.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Doesn’t sound like a tolerance for being under a microscope and filling out tons of paperwork necessarily should be equated with being a great teacher.
People are in our classrooms constantly. You cannot slack off ever or you will be put on a PIP. My friends in wealthy areas have one or two observations a year and that’s it. They admit that they coast along because most of their kids will do well anyway. They almost all have tutors.
Why should you slack off? You are being paid to teach some of the most vulnerable kids in the nation. Need a mental health day? Take personal leave. Need more mental health days than you have leave? Find a new job.
I think it is attitudes like yours, PP, that are driving teachers out of teaching, especially at the schools with the most vulnerable students.
Teachers who can’t cut it should be driven out of teaching. They are not providing a vital service they are being paid to deliver. Are hospitals keeping on incompetent nurses? Does the military retain soldiers who need to slack off and resent being evaluated? Even retail will fire you if you are not doing your job. Slacking off instead of teaching should not be any different.
Anonymous
01/12/2020 09:38
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Doesn’t sound like a tolerance for being under a microscope and filling out tons of paperwork necessarily should be equated with being a great teacher.
People are in our classrooms constantly. You cannot slack off ever or you will be put on a PIP. My friends in wealthy areas have one or two observations a year and that’s it. They admit that they coast along because most of their kids will do well anyway. They almost all have tutors.
Why should you slack off? You are being paid to teach some of the most vulnerable kids in the nation. Need a mental health day? Take personal leave. Need more mental health days than you have leave? Find a new job.
I think it is attitudes like yours, PP, that are driving teachers out of teaching, especially at the schools with the most vulnerable students.
Teachers who can’t cut it should be driven out of teaching. They are not providing a vital service they are being paid to deliver. Are hospitals keeping on incompetent nurses? Does the military retain soldiers who need to slack off and resent being evaluated? Even retail will fire you if you are not doing your job. Slacking off instead of teaching should not be any different.
Anonymous
01/12/2020 09:27
Subject: Re:Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Title One teacher here. I’ve taught in schools at the opposite ends of the spectrum plus private schools. The best teachers are in the Title One schools because you cannot slack off. You constantly have to prove yourself and people are constantly judging you when they are in your classrooms all of the time. I now have to fill out a Google form about every single conversion I have about a student. If I taught to a special ed teacher in passing in the hallway about a student, I’ll have to fill out a form (within 24 hours!). If I call/email or meet with a parent (or attempt to), I have to fill out a form. If I attend a meeting about a student, ditto. We have to make an attempt to contact parents after two consecutive absences from school. So I have at least a quarter of my class who meets this criteria so that is at least 6 attempts plus the time it takes to fill out 6 separate Google forms. We joke that we should just wear body cameras so it will record us doing these things so we don’t have to fill out the dreaded Google form. Only the strong survive. The people at my school can never be said that we don’t care. If we didn’t care, we’d teach somewhere much easier (like my own school). Those teachers take the credit for their students hitting a home Run when the kids started school on third base.
Doesn’t sound like a tolerance for being under a microscope and filling out tons of paperwork necessarily should be equated with being a great teacher.
People are in our classrooms constantly. You cannot slack off ever or you will be put on a PIP. My friends in wealthy areas have one or two observations a year and that’s it. They admit that they coast along because most of their kids will do well anyway. They almost all have tutors.
Why should you slack off? You are being paid to teach some of the most vulnerable kids in the nation. Need a mental health day? Take personal leave. Need more mental health days than you have leave? Find a new job.
I think it is attitudes like yours, PP, that are driving teachers out of teaching, especially at the schools with the most vulnerable students.
Anonymous
01/11/2020 22:43
Subject: Teachers, what’s the difference between teaching at a Title 1 school vs low ses not title 1?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Low SES, but not Title 1 sounds overwhelming to me. Why would the district refuse federal funds for that school?
This is the worst possible combo for kids. The % of FARMS to qualify has gone up and so there are a number of schools that are Title 1 this year but won't be next year- which beyond financial resources also can mean losing Title 1 Resource teachers and professional development and programs. It stinks. Some schools were grandfathered in this year but won't be next year.
I work in a MCPS focus school that has a CES. This is kind of where we are. The CES in our school is both a blessing and a curse. The standardized testing scores are not disaggregated so they are definitely helpful to us. But the CES is 100 seats out of 600 something. And because we have the CES, we don’t qualify for title 1 status so we don’t get the additional resources for our home school kids who could absolutely use it. For instance, ESOL allocations for a title 1 school are calculated differently for title 1 schools (more allocation is given to them), but because we aren’t a title 1 school we don’t get that extra support even though we have a very high ESOL population. None of the CES students receive ESOL services. So if we only looked at our home school population we would qualify for the extra support but because the CES population “dilutes” the FARMS percentage we don’t qualify for extra support. Same for intervention teachers. It’s a blessing and a curse.