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Yes, out of the Virginia public colleges , W&M, UVA, and Tech have the highest incoming GPA’S and test scores. Yet there are other VA schools with lower stats than Tech’s but also lower admission rates. Also most schools with Tech’s stats have lower admission rates. I don’t understand this. Is it simply that kids who don’t think they will get into Tech are choosing not to apply?[u]

Yes, as several posters have said, the kids that apply to Tech are the ones that really want to go there & are pretty damn sure they can. I have had 3 nieces/nephews apply to Tech in the last 5 years, all got in & went. For all three is was the school they wanted to attend since middle school with lots of family & friends have gone there. They applied and were accepted to other schools but picked Tech.

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Anonymous wrote:Because GPAs are inflated in Virginia. What public school is on a true, 4.0scale? None. The GPAs go up to 4.6+.

Yeah but it’s still easy to calculate the unweighted GPA, and it doesn’t explain why schools with lower incoming unweighted gpas would have a lower admittance rate.

Not really. The high schools don't report both.

So you think Tech should create a process to redo all the GPAs when they're going to admit 70% of their applicants anyway?

It makes sense for the Ivies to recalculate - they're admitting single digits. It doesn't makes sense for school that's admitting their majority to recalculate. What's more, recalculating will give them a lower average GPA, which some people seem to think is some huge sign when the rest of us know there's more to it than that.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why it matters to you what a college's admission's rate is? I'd be more interested in its graduation rate and it's job placement rate. I.e. outcomes.

Seems weird to care about an admissions rate.

It’s curiosity. Plus it just doesn’t make sense. The school has vey high stats for incoming Freshmen. E erroneous knows it’s one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to. Yet the admissions rate is considerably higher than schools with much lower stats.

"one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to" with a 70% admission rate? Check your math. It's not hard to get into.

It's also not in demand outside of Virginia. It's actually EASIER to get in from OOS.

This is the exact point. The admittance rate would indicate that it’s not hard to get into, yet the profile of the students says differently. I’m trying to make sense of that.

It has been answered. Self-selection.

Anonymous wrote:Public School Counselors will only write recommendations if they think you have a good chance. They are the gate-keepers for Public Colleges.

You again? This is so tiresome. You are wrong. Stop with this silliness.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief, it’s a state school. It primarily serves in-state students. Why does the admission rate have to be in the single digits to be a good school?

It has its strengths and weaknesses like every college:

-better at STEM majors

-big school: lots of resources, no hand holding, must be able to self-advocate

-it’s in Blacksburg. It’s not DC or NYC, but it’s pretty. Isolating for many though.

-like most state schools, there are weed out courses. Be ready to have a back up major.

I don’t think you are getting the question. It’s not whether tech is a good school or what it’s pluses and minuses are. it’s simply why is there such a disconnect between the profile of the incoming class and the acceptance rate?

ETA. Even University of Lynchburg and Liberty have lower admission rates than Tech despite having much lower SAT’s and GPA’s I’m simply trying to figure out what accounts for this.

It's a good question, it's well known that both Lynchburg and Liberty are much easier to get into than VT. I've seen this first hand.

oops, admin rate = admissions rate

The admin rate is slowly dropping since VT started accepting the Coalition App. It will be interesting to see the trend over the next several years. Years ago before GT started using the Common App, their admin rate was > 50% (I think even higher, I'd have to go back and look). Since the Common App, they've dropped significantly.

Also, VT engineering stats are higher with a lower admin rate. My kid won't look at UVA because he wants to go into engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief, it’s a state school. It primarily serves in-state students. Why does the admission rate have to be in the single digits to be a good school?

It has its strengths and weaknesses like every college:

-better at STEM majors

-big school: lots of resources, no hand holding, must be able to self-advocate

-it’s in Blacksburg. It’s not DC or NYC, but it’s pretty. Isolating for many though.

-like most state schools, there are weed out courses. Be ready to have a back up major.

I don’t think you are getting the question. It’s not whether tech is a good school or what it’s pluses and minuses are. it’s simply why is there such a disconnect between the profile of the incoming class and the acceptance rate?

ETA. Even University of Lynchburg and Liberty have lower admission rates than Tech despite having much lower SAT’s and GPA’s I’m simply trying to figure out what accounts for this.

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, it’s a state school. It primarily serves in-state students. Why does the admission rate have to be in the single digits to be a good school?

It has its strengths and weaknesses like every college:

-better at STEM majors

-big school: lots of resources, no hand holding, must be able to self-advocate

-it’s in Blacksburg. It’s not DC or NYC, but it’s pretty. Isolating for many though.

-like most state schools, there are weed out courses. Be ready to have a back up major.

I don’t think you are getting the question. It’s not whether tech is a good school or what it’s pluses and minuses are. it’s simply why is there such a disconnect between the profile of the incoming class and the acceptance rate?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why it matters to you what a college's admission's rate is? I'd be more interested in its graduation rate and it's job placement rate. I.e. outcomes.

Seems weird to care about an admissions rate.

It’s curiosity. Plus it just doesn’t make sense. The school has vey high stats for incoming Freshmen. E erroneous knows it’s one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to. Yet the admissions rate is considerably higher than schools with much lower stats.

"one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to" with a 70% admission rate? Check your math. It's not hard to get into.

It's also not in demand outside of Virginia. It's actually EASIER to get in from OOS.

This is the exact point. The admittance rate would indicate that it’s not hard to get into, yet the profile of the students says differently. I’m trying to make sense of that.

The stats aren't that impressive. Media ACT for enrolled students is 28. Median SAT is 1290. I think you're giving too much credit to "high" GPAs when there is massive GPA inflation across many high schools, especially in VA.

But even if there is massive grade inflation across VA, that would affect the GPA’s at all colleges. Tech still has higher GPA’s than other VA colleges whose students presumably have inflated GPA’s as well. Also a bit off topic, but why do you assume that kids in VA are more like,y to have inflated GPAs the kids from other states?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why it matters to you what a college's admission's rate is? I'd be more interested in its graduation rate and it's job placement rate. I.e. outcomes.

Seems weird to care about an admissions rate.

It’s curiosity. Plus it just doesn’t make sense. The school has vey high stats for incoming Freshmen. E erroneous knows it’s one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to. Yet the admissions rate is considerably higher than schools with much lower stats.

"one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to" with a 70% admission rate? Check your math. It's not hard to get into.

It's also not in demand outside of Virginia. It's actually EASIER to get in from OOS.

Yes, out of the Virginia public colleges , W&M, UVA, and Tech have the highest incoming GPA’S and test scores. Yet there are other VA schools with lower stats than Tech’s but also lower admission rates. Also most schools with Tech’s stats have lower admission rates. I don’t understand this. Is it simply that kids who don’t think they will get into Tech are choosing not to apply?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why it matters to you what a college's admission's rate is? I'd be more interested in its graduation rate and it's job placement rate. I.e. outcomes.

Seems weird to care about an admissions rate.

It’s curiosity. Plus it just doesn’t make sense. The school has vey high stats for incoming Freshmen. E erroneous knows it’s one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to. Yet the admissions rate is considerably higher than schools with much lower stats.

"one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to" with a 70% admission rate? Check your math. It's not hard to get into.

It's also not in demand outside of Virginia. It's actually EASIER to get in from OOS.

This is the exact point. The admittance rate would indicate that it’s not hard to get into, yet the profile of the students says differently. I’m trying to make sense of that.

The stats aren't that impressive. Media ACT for enrolled students is 28. Median SAT is 1290. I think you're giving too much credit to "high" GPAs when there is massive GPA inflation across many high schools, especially in VA.

Good grief, it’s a state school. It primarily serves in-state students. Why does the admission rate have to be in the single digits to be a good school?

It has its strengths and weaknesses like every college:

-better at STEM majors

-big school: lots of resources, no hand holding, must be able to self-advocate

-it’s in Blacksburg. It’s not DC or NYC, but it’s pretty. Isolating for many though.

-like most state schools, there are weed out courses. Be ready to have a back up major.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why it matters to you what a college's admission's rate is? I'd be more interested in its graduation rate and it's job placement rate. I.e. outcomes.

Seems weird to care about an admissions rate.

It’s curiosity. Plus it just doesn’t make sense. The school has vey high stats for incoming Freshmen. E erroneous knows it’s one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to. Yet the admissions rate is considerably higher than schools with much lower stats.

"one of the hardest Virginia schools to be admitted to" with a 70% admission rate? Check your math. It's not hard to get into.

It's also not in demand outside of Virginia. It's actually EASIER to get in from OOS.

This is the exact point. The admittance rate would indicate that it’s not hard to get into, yet the profile of the students says differently. I’m trying to make sense of that.

Anonymous wrote:Public School Counselors will only write recommendations if they think you have a good chance. They are the gate-keepers for Public Colleges.

They are required to write them for everyone that asks. Are you saying that they just write a negative one for some kids? I would be quite surprised to hear that when most counselors have barely met the kids.