Anonymous
Post 12/24/2019 11:50     Subject: DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

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Anonymous wrote:Our au pair passed her driving test last week and will be issued a DC license. The DMV person hole-punched her German drivers license. Why did they do that? Is there any recourse we can take to make the DMV remunerate her for that incorrect action?


Do you live in a cave,? You cannot have two driver licenses from two different states or countries,!


Read the links. A driver's license from a foreign country is not treated the same as a drivers license from another state. Two totally different things.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 16:02     Subject: DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

Anonymous wrote:Our au pair passed her driving test last week and will be issued a DC license. The DMV person hole-punched her German drivers license. Why did they do that? Is there any recourse we can take to make the DMV remunerate her for that incorrect action?


Do you live in a cave,? You cannot have two driver licenses from two different states or countries,!
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:33     Subject: Re:DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

My guess is that employees don't always apply the rules correctly. I have someone staying at my house who needed to upgrade his DL to a commercial license, and they required property documents for residency. He has no utilities and we have no written lease agreement. So, as the homeowner, I wrote up something and signed it. DMV said it had to be a real lease and directed him to a website. When he got home I discovered it was a website for boilerplate lease agreements. I had to laugh when I pointed out to him that per the lease he was now responsible for all utilities. So it was a more bogus document than what I gave him originally but they took it. I called the state DOT later and they said field office people don't always get it right.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:28     Subject: Re:DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. She is our fourth AP and they have never hole-punched any of the other AP's home license. It is an unnecessary expense. I'm going to talk to the manager.


You should probably research the law before you go in and waste everyone’s time on something so ridiculous


‘You will have to surrender your current driver license or provisional license to DC DMV; if you do not have it, DC DMV will accept a certified driving record (issued by the state your license is from within the last 30 days) that reflects that your license is in good standing and has not been expired for more than 90 days.’


does that really apply to international documents that aren't even legal here? it makes sense to punch a drivers license from another state (b/c states accept each others' licenses), but from another country entirely?


They are legal here. For example, a German tourist can come here and rent a car and drive legally with thier German license (and same with Americans visiting Germany). Your au pair is a resident here, so they need a US driver's license.


+1 anyone residing and driving in DC (and most states) must get a drivers license in that state and give up their otter one.


Germany is not a US state. The reason you give up your license from another states is that there is interstate comity for licenses. Not the same internationally - they destroyed a personal document that she still needs in Germany. Bad news.


MD did this for DW's license from another EU country. They kept her foreign license when she was issued an MD license.


per MD DMV:

"Exceptions:

Licenses from Germany and France must be surrendered when a Maryland driver’s license is issued.

Surrendered licenses will be sent to the Maryland MVA headquarters, at which time the license will be returned to the country that issued it.
The applicant may choose to opt out of the agreement by taking all tests if they wish to keep their license from France or Germany."

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/drivers/apply/international-applicants.htm

No justification for destroying the license at all.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:26     Subject: Re:DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. She is our fourth AP and they have never hole-punched any of the other AP's home license. It is an unnecessary expense. I'm going to talk to the manager.


You should probably research the law before you go in and waste everyone’s time on something so ridiculous


‘You will have to surrender your current driver license or provisional license to DC DMV; if you do not have it, DC DMV will accept a certified driving record (issued by the state your license is from within the last 30 days) that reflects that your license is in good standing and has not been expired for more than 90 days.’


does that really apply to international documents that aren't even legal here? it makes sense to punch a drivers license from another state (b/c states accept each others' licenses), but from another country entirely?


They are legal here. For example, a German tourist can come here and rent a car and drive legally with thier German license (and same with Americans visiting Germany). Your au pair is a resident here, so they need a US driver's license.


+1 anyone residing and driving in DC (and most states) must get a drivers license in that state and give up their otter one.


Germany is not a US state. The reason you give up your license from another states is that there is interstate comity for licenses. Not the same internationally - they destroyed a personal document that she still needs in Germany. Bad news.


MD did this for DW's license from another EU country. They kept her foreign license when she was issued an MD license.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:24     Subject: Re:DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. She is our fourth AP and they have never hole-punched any of the other AP's home license. It is an unnecessary expense. I'm going to talk to the manager.


You should probably research the law before you go in and waste everyone’s time on something so ridiculous


‘You will have to surrender your current driver license or provisional license to DC DMV; if you do not have it, DC DMV will accept a certified driving record (issued by the state your license is from within the last 30 days) that reflects that your license is in good standing and has not been expired for more than 90 days.’


does that really apply to international documents that aren't even legal here? it makes sense to punch a drivers license from another state (b/c states accept each others' licenses), but from another country entirely?


They are legal here. For example, a German tourist can come here and rent a car and drive legally with thier German license (and same with Americans visiting Germany). Your au pair is a resident here, so they need a US driver's license.


+1 anyone residing and driving in DC (and most states) must get a drivers license in that state and give up their otter one.


Germany is not a US state. The reason you give up your license from another states is that there is interstate comity for licenses. Not the same internationally - they destroyed a personal document that she still needs in Germany. Bad news.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:23     Subject: DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

DMV messed up:

https://dmv.dc.gov/service/driver-license-for-non-us-citizens

"You will be allowed to keep your out-of-country driver license along with your DC DMV REAL ID driver license. "
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:22     Subject: Re:DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. She is our fourth AP and they have never hole-punched any of the other AP's home license. It is an unnecessary expense. I'm going to talk to the manager.


You should probably research the law before you go in and waste everyone’s time on something so ridiculous


‘You will have to surrender your current driver license or provisional license to DC DMV; if you do not have it, DC DMV will accept a certified driving record (issued by the state your license is from within the last 30 days) that reflects that your license is in good standing and has not been expired for more than 90 days.’


does that really apply to international documents that aren't even legal here? it makes sense to punch a drivers license from another state (b/c states accept each others' licenses), but from another country entirely?


They are legal here. For example, a German tourist can come here and rent a car and drive legally with thier German license (and same with Americans visiting Germany). Your au pair is a resident here, so they need a US driver's license.


+1 anyone residing and driving in DC (and most states) must get a drivers license in that state and give up their otter one.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:19     Subject: Re:DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. She is our fourth AP and they have never hole-punched any of the other AP's home license. It is an unnecessary expense. I'm going to talk to the manager.


You should probably research the law before you go in and waste everyone’s time on something so ridiculous


‘You will have to surrender your current driver license or provisional license to DC DMV; if you do not have it, DC DMV will accept a certified driving record (issued by the state your license is from within the last 30 days) that reflects that your license is in good standing and has not been expired for more than 90 days.’


does that really apply to international documents that aren't even legal here? it makes sense to punch a drivers license from another state (b/c states accept each others' licenses), but from another country entirely?


They are legal here. For example, a German tourist can come here and rent a car and drive legally with thier German license (and same with Americans visiting Germany). Your au pair is a resident here, so they need a US driver's license.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2019 14:19     Subject: Re:DMV hole-punched au pair's home drivers license - what gives??

Anonymous wrote:OP here. She is our fourth AP and they have never hole-punched any of the other AP's home license. It is an unnecessary expense. I'm going to talk to the manager.


Please record that conversation with the DMV manager and post here.